ferraro,sheahan and almqvist

[djdan6215]

i really like these three players this season with grand rapids they are getting better since the beginning of the years

landon ferraro 55 gp--16g--19a--35 pts
riley sheahan 56 gp --16g--19a--35 pts
adam almqvist 51 gp --6g--17a--23pts

what is the future (first ,second,third line)(1-2-3..def)of these players with the wings and in your opinion guys when will they play with the wings

thank you

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[sully6one]

Both forwards 3rd liners, Almqvist I don't see a future.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

i really like these three players this season with grand rapids they are getting better since the beginning of the years

landon ferraro 55 gp--16g--19a--35 pts
riley sheahan 56 gp --16g--19a--35 pts
adam almqvist 51 gp --6g--17a--23pts

what is the future (first ,second,third line)(1-2-3..def)of these players with the wings and in your opinion guys when will they play with the wings

thank you

Ferraro looks like a second/third line tweener and special teams guy, basically a smaller Cleary before the wheels feel off. He has impressive speed, plays much bigger than he is and will be a very good special teams guy. Probably will wind up a third liner, but he has a good shot and some ability to slide up the lineup.

Sheahan is a big body with great speed for his size, but not overly physical. He rarely loses board battles or is in the wrong place. An exceptional special teams guy that has a lot of physical gifts. He could be a dominant third liner or if his offense keeps coming like this a good second line center.

Almqvist is a undersized guy, but pretty positionally sound. Has a good first pass and a hard shot. A smart player, but not the greatest skater. The other two will have a role, Almqvist still has some developing to do before you can consider him an NHL caliber player. Of the small guys though in the system I prefer him over both Billins and Marshall in terms of ceiling.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Sheahan looks like he'll be a 2C if he keeps progressing offensively. If not he'll be an elite 3C. Defensively he's about as good as it gets for a prospect.

Almqvist I'm not too sure on. I think his NHL chances rely a lot on the upcoming off-season - if he can get stronger and improve his skating then he could progress into a solid NHL defenseman. He's very smart with the puck, has really good vision and a good shot.

Ferraro came out of nowhere this year. Injuries have hindered his chances on becoming the scoring-line sniper he was drafted to be, but he projects to be a 3rd line winger (though he can play center), but a guy who can play up and down the lineup - Cleary circa 2009ish. He has high-end speed - though not Helm fast - and he's a really good PKer. He and Sheahan are at the top of the league in SHP.

 

[joe89]

Sheahan. Overall package with size, skating, defense and some offensive touch. Ultimately his offense will determine how good he becomes.

Ferraro. Got legs that never stop moving. Penalty killing specialist. Good release. His game screams intangibles. Can fill just about any role in a lineup.

Almquist. Builds his game on hockey sense. Incredibly poised with the puck. Good at getting pucks through to the net. Better at playing defense than he leads you to believe. Size is average at best, but skating is the make or break for him.

 

[newfy]

Sheahan. Overall package with size, skating, defense and some offensive touch. Ultimately his offense will determine how good he becomes.

Ferraro. Got legs that never stop moving. Penalty killing specialist. Good release. His game screams intangibles. Can fill just about any role in a lineup.

Almquist. Builds his game on hockey sense. Incredibly poised with the puck. Good at getting pucks through to the net. Better at playing defense than he leads you to believe. Size is average at best, but skating is the make or break for him.

Pretty much agree with all of this. I'm not ready to say Sheahan wont be a top 6 player but if he isnt hes going to be one of those guys that can absolutely anchor a bottom 6 and make it something really good. Same with Ferraro. Andersson has been solid in his role at the NHL level but I already think both of these guys are better. Sheahans offense this year has me hopeful he can pan out into a top 6 player again.

Ferraro I think is more stuck in a bottom 6 type but that could possibly bump up if needed. Hes like Helm out there but seems to have more scoring touch and a little less speed. The amazing PK ability and physicality is there though

Almquist is kind of meh. Pretty small and slow and a lot of dmen coming up. Ouellet, Sproul, Jensen etc. all fill his role but bring better attributes.

 

[GT500x]

I'm dying on my Ferraro, Coetzee, Almqvist hill!

 

[StormSurge9]

Sheahan is currently just outside the top 10 in rookie scoring. I believe he will be a top 6 player. But like others have said, he can be an elite 3rd line player if his offence doesn't quite translate.

Ferraro is a bottom 6 player, probably 3rd line. He currently leads the AHL in shorthanded points with 6 (3G+3A). His speed on the PK would look awfully nice next to Helm...

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

A lot of people want Sheahan centering our 4th line now, which I personally think is very short sighted. Sheahan should really take the time to develop his offensive game to its maximum potential in Grand Rapids. As other have said, I see Sheahan as a good second line center, and great third line center.

Ferraro may be able to stand another season in Grand Rapids as well, and as others have said, could be a tweener a la Dan Cleary when he was a better player.

 

[Run the Jewels]

A lot of people want Sheahan centering our 4th line now, which I personally think is very short sighted. Sheahan should really take the time to develop his offensive game to its maximum potential in Grand Rapids. As other have said, I see Sheahan as a good second line center, and great third line center.

Ferraro may be able to stand another season in Grand Rapids as well, and as others have said, could be a tweener a la Dan Cleary when he was a better player.

I'd like to give Sheahan a little time on Pavs' wing to see how he handles the NHL game. This is a guy who could not produce offense at ND, most likely due to how he was used. As Pavs' winger he wouldn't have all of his attention focused on playing defensively. He's coming along nicely in the AHL as a scoring line forward, I don't see the harm in giving him a call up since he's got the size to be a contributor on a scoring line.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

I think Ferraro deserves a shot next year.
Two years of AHL hockey. Solid improvement. He's earned a look.

 

[Hendricks433]

I think Ferraro deserves a shot next year.
Two years of AHL hockey. Solid improvement. He's earned a look.

I wouldnt mind giving him a look and potentially taking Miller or Eaves spot. I am sure he could be as effective as one of them with more upside.

 

[RedMenace]

I wouldnt mind giving him a look and potentially taking Miller or Eaves spot. I am sure he could be as effective as one of them with more upside.

Both he and Sheahan will definitely get a good look in camp, but will probably stay down in Grand Rapids for another season just to make sure this year isn't a fluke. With Tatar, Nyquist, and Andersson likely with the Wings, that'll give both of them top-line minutes and the opportunity to show they can handle them.

A Grand Rapids top-6 of Sheahan, Ferraro, Jurco, Jarnkrok, Frk, and Pulkkinen will probably do some major damage.

 

[Rael]

I still see Almqvist as a possible PP specialist in DET in a few years because the only other prospect which is doing as well or better in this department IMO is Sproul.
On the big team, there are also not too many players who will prevent Almqvist from getting PP time in 3-5 years as I have only been satisfied with Kindl's offense recently. Kronwall is having a very bad season (his points totals look inflated by an amazing offensive weekend he had) and White/Smith haven't exactly produced so far. Colaiacovo has been injured and is capable of producing on the PP but more so than Almqvist? Not necessarily. I still have Hakan Andersson's assessment of Almqvist's hockey sense in the back of my mind and I hope he improves enough in other areas to make it count.

As regards Sheahan and Ferraro: I hope that Helm remains our 3rd line C because he's very good at that, would be a shame to have him on the 4th line. So if Sheahan doesn't make it to 2nd line C, maybe move him to the wing... Right now I'm hoping for a 3rd line of Tatar - Helm - Ferraro, which would be extremely fast and should have some scoring potential. 4th line could be Abdelkader - Andersson - Tootoo/whoever.
Maybe in 2014-15 because next season I bet there will be some vets to prevent a couple of these young guns to get valuable minutes.

 

[RedMenace]

I still see Almqvist as a possible PP specialist in DET in a few years because the only other prospect which is doing as well or better in this department IMO is Sproul.

I'm telling you, I think Billins will surprise people.

 

[ProPAIN]

I think Ferraro is the perfect replacement for Eaves. Although I rather he get top line minutes for one more season in GR instead of sitting on the bench, he deserves the occasional call-up.

I think Sheahan can center the 4th line tomorrow. He's got the physical attributes and can offer quite a lot on the PK and even play a role on the PP (screen).

 

[Laser Rayzor]

I think Ferraro is the perfect replacement for Eaves. Although I rather he get top line minutes for one more season in GR instead of sitting on the bench, he deserves the occasional call-up.

I think Sheahan can center the 4th line tomorrow. He's got the physical attributes and can offer quite a lot on the PK and even play a role on the PP (screen).

Agreed on Sheahan, but like Cyborg Yzerman said I'd rather leave him in GR to continue to develop his offensive game. Looking towards the future he'd be more valuable as a decent 2nd/3rd line center in 2-3 years than a good 4th line center tomorrow.

 

[Henkka]

I'm telling you, I think Billins will surprise people.

Can't see room for Billins at future Red Wings. We have Smith and Sproul as good quarterbacks coming, also Ouellet will be in the mix. Then Järnkrok, Frk are great point-forwards.

Because of these guys and many others options, we don't have to gamble with undersized PP-specialist, when we have great other tools there already. He could be some kind of "incurance", though. 8th defenceman, an AHL-option if most of the PP defencemen are injured.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

This team has Kronwall, Smith and Kindl as offensive defensemen who can play the PP and who could be with the team for a long time. I don't see much room for Almquist or Billins as offensive defensemen.

 

[jaster]

i really like these three players this season with grand rapids they are getting better since the beginning of the years

landon ferraro 55 gp--16g--19a--35 pts
riley sheahan 56 gp --16g--19a--35 pts
adam almqvist 51 gp --6g--17a--23pts

what is the future (first ,second,third line)(1-2-3..def)of these players with the wings and in your opinion guys when will they play with the wings

thank you

My prediction:

Ferraro - 50% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks, which is pretty good considering how much his star fell and how much he's had to rebound. If he does, he'll be a bottom-six winger, and it won't be until the 2014-15 season. Might get a call-up next year.

Sheahan - 90% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks. Will be a very defensively-capable center, possibly starting on the 4th line and likely making it to the 3rd. Like Ferraro, may get a call-up next year, but won't be a mainstay on the roster until 2013-15.

Almqvist - 10% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks. I just don't think he's an NHLer. His combination of size and skating, or lack thereof, make him a prime candidate to make his career in Europe.

 

[RedMenace]

Can't see room for Billins at future Red Wings. We have Smith and Sproul as good quarterbacks coming, also Ouellet will be in the mix. Then Järnkrok, Frk are great point-forwards.

Because of these guys and many others options, we don't have to gamble with undersized PP-specialist, when we have great other tools there already. He could be some kind of "incurance", though. 8th defenceman, an AHL-option if most of the PP defencemen are injured.

I understand the "pessimism" regarding Billins, but I still think he'll get a shot. The thing that absolutely blows me away about him is that he was undrafted; he's got 32 points (7g, 25a) in his rookie season, is pretty reliable defensively, has good wheels, and makes good plays with and without the puck.

And he's only going to get better.

Sure he's undersized, but in my opinion, if the Wings don't give him a contract and a sniff, they're making a big mistake.

My prediction:

Ferraro - 50% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks, which is pretty good considering how much his star fell and how much he's had to rebound. If he does, he'll be a bottom-six winger, and it won't be until the 2014-15 season. Might get a call-up next year.

Can you imagine him and Helm on the same line and/or on the PK? Yikes.

Sheahan - 90% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks. Will be a very defensively-capable center, possibly starting on the 4th line and likely making it to the 3rd. Like Ferraro, may get a call-up next year, but won't be a mainstay on the roster until 2013-15.

Almqvist - 10% chance he makes it to Detroit and sticks. I just don't think he's an NHLer. His combination of size and skating, or lack thereof, make him a prime candidate to make his career in Europe.

Agreed with both of those, though Almqvist may just need a little more time. If he hasn't picked it up by the end of next season, he's probably back to Europe like you said.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

I understand the "pessimism" regarding Billins, but I still think he'll get a shot. The thing that absolutely blows me away about him is that he was undrafted; he's got 32 points (7g, 25a) in his rookie season, is pretty reliable defensively, has good wheels, and makes good plays with and without the puck.

And he's only going to get better.

Sure he's undersized, but in my opinion, if the Wings don't give him a contract and a sniff, they're making a big mistake.

They may not be able to with the contract limit, if there still is one in the new CBA.

 

[jaster]

This team has Kronwall, Smith and Kindl as offensive defensemen who can play the PP and who could be with the team for a long time. I don't see much room for Almquist or Billins as offensive defensemen.

Agreed. Frankly, I'd be shocked if either stuck with Detroit. Would probably mean something bad happened to someone else. Although, Billins, from what little I have seen from him, would not surprise me if he made it in another franchise.

 

[RedMenace]

They may not be able to with the contract limit, if there still is one in the new CBA.

Having Mursak gone would clear a spot... also, the Wings currently have 9 defensemen under contract. That won't be the case soon.

Agreed. Frankly, I'd be shocked if either stuck with Detroit. Would probably mean something bad happened to someone else. Although, Billins, from what little I have seen from him, would not surprise me if he made it in another franchise.

Unfortunately, none of those guys are genuine PP quarterbacks, whereas Billins is right now -- it's kinda what he does. I know people get all angry when one mentions "Brian Rafalski" in reference to Billins, but it's there.

Whatever though, I'm probably wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.

 

[jaster]

Unfortunately, none of those guys are genuine PP quarterbacks, whereas Billins is right now -- it's kinda what he does.

We'll see how his ability translates to the NHL. I don't think he's anymore a PP QB than Kronwall was at the same age. Same goes for Kindl, though Kindl spent most of his age-23 season in Detroit with little-to-no opportunities. And while Smith was more of a triggerman on the PP for most of his development, he too has QB'd his fair share, and done it well. They all.... kinda did it

I know people get all angry when one mentions "Brian Rafalski" in reference to Billins, but it's there.

Nothing about that makes me angry, and I see how he's a similar type of defenseman, but I think he has a looooooooong way to go to be Brian Rafalski.

Whatever though, I'm probably wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.

Hey, I'm hoping for the best, from all our prospects. If he turns into Rafalski, I'll be elated