World Cup: Favourite World Cup Goals!

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  1. Jussi

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    From the best team to not win, Brazil '82:



    Still funny how one turn can fool two defenders to create that space to shoot.
     
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    It was just bizarre, 2002.

    They (FIFA) went from a traditional football country as a host, with history and football culture, smack in the middle of Europe... To Japan and South Korea, half-empty stadiums and half-hearted cheering from the crowds.

    Add to that that some traditional powerhouses crumbled (France most of all, but Argentina and a very good Portugal side also went home after the group stage), some had bizarre games featuring the refs (Italy and Spain), and a rather ordinary Brasil side ended dominating a Ballack-less, even more ordinary Germany in the final.

    For me, the worst WC experience so far.
    South Africa wasn't great, but still better than 2002.
     
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    Flashforward to today and European club sides are selling out stadiums for summer friendlies in Asia.
     
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    A special player he was, and I never understood how his club career proved such a relative anticlimax.
     
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    I've heard differing accounts of why Michael missed 1992- one saying he'd rowed with Richard Moller-Nielsen, another that his European Cup-Liga double with Cruyff's Barca left him feeling too weary to rally himself when Denmark were given their late invitation to replace the then Yugoslavia.
     
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    When Italian fans whinge about their defeat to South Korea, I always feel Spain suffered far worse. The penalty shootout in particular was an utter travesty- the keeper was practically on the edge of the six yard box by the time the ball was struck.

    2002 was the only World Cup played during the brief era when the Champions League round of 16 comprised six games rather than two. In addition, the South American qualifying group had increased from an already bloated 16 game round-robin to 18 games. The Confederations Cup was at that point biennial. It was a heavy schedule for players who were then asked to fly from Europe to Far East Asia and prepare themselves for unfamiliar conditions.

    The sheer number of upsets was compelling, but the longer the tournament continued the lack of quality took its toll.
     
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    Sorry, but the best team not to win was the 1950s Hungarian team. Maybe the best team ever to play.
     
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    I have to correct myself. The best team never to win was Ajax Netherlands. And this is how Gerd Müller finished them off.
     
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    I don’t disagree with you in principle...but that effect is certainly dulled for me when it results in a French victory :sarcasm:
    This goal makes me laugh every time.
    You're not suggesting that having a world cup in East Asia combined with the booming economies of the region to create a real demand for the sport that profits clubs & countries from across the globe now, are you?...
    I’m pretty sure it’s spelled “sucker”, but English is my second language so I’ll let a native speaker confirm that...

    ...maybe I’ve watched enough Norm MacDonald clips for one day...
     
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    Plus now you have Christensen & Vestegaard...who are very elegant with ball...to anchor your build up play around behind that Eriksen character.

    Just need some of those young attackers to finally deliver on their potential...and it probably wouldn’t hurt if you got some more creativity from the midfielders behind Eriksen as well as your CBs...

    Your team would have a totally different dynamic if Hojbjerg could suddenly become everything he once looked like he would be and Dollberg had his breakthrough moment in russia
     
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    I dunno if I can agree with that, maybe it's cause of how many times I've watched both the 54 & 74 finals on youtube, but I think those Hungarians may well have beaten the Dutch if they were ripped through time to play a head to head...even with the 20 years of progress that favored the Dutch, which made the Magyars all the more incredible & stunning non-champions. Nevermind that the dutch didn't just fail at one tourney before being torn apart by politics, they failed to win at the euros as well, whereas the Hungarians had stomped through the Olympics & every game they get got to play before they managed to defect...other than that one match at the 54 world cup.

    Total Football was basically just the point when the west figured out what the Mighty Magyars had been doing 20 years before and then implemented within more modern shapes. I know that some will say that the Magyars themselves were just an iteration of the Wunderteam, but the Wunderteam's fluidity was restricted to a few attackers, where the Magyars had players pushing up, drifting wide, and cycling back, all across the pitch. They really were playing the same football that we & the Dutch conquered the world with two decades later.

    And struggle to buy the argument that Cruyff & co. had more talent across the team than did Puskas & his troupe of magicians, definitely not if we compare them to their own eras, but I'm not even sure I buy it when we compare them across eras. That's just how ahead of their times the Golden Team was.
     
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    Højbjerg is a ****ing headscratcher, same with Dolberg.

    But I agree on all points:)
     
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    It is spelled sucker, as a native English speaker I should know, hence the smiley, it was a play on words :)
     
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    Oh I know, I just watched way too much Norm MacDonald yesterday lol
     
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    Nobody knows what team was better. Ajax were dominant in Europe at that time. The best Hungarian players usually played for Honved. The problem with the latter was that there wasn't an European cup was in place at that time, so they coudn't prove their skills internationally.
    Fact is that Hungary destroyed the then powerhouse England (unbeaten by Euros for 90 years) at home.
     
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    I guess that one went over my head.

    I blame the heat!
     
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    I was willing to just chalk it up to not being very funny, but blaming the heat works out even better for me! Gotta hate that heat....
     
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    No doubt that we’ll never know for sure...which is why it’s fun to discuss, and I don’t mean to dismiss that legendarily WC-less Brazilian team by focusing on the Hungarians & Dutch instead...but having watched that 54 final damn near a dozen times by now I’m still more stunned by what they were doing in their era by a wide margin.

    Even when I remind myself how much better we were in 74, I can’t help but think that those Magyars wouldn’t have been an even greater challenge than the Oranje if we could have teleported them 20 years into the future to face the Mannschaft again
     
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    No, no it was funny alright.

    And, when not overheated, my brain would have caught it,.

    Being a big Norm fan, doesn't make it less embarrassing.
     
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    I'm having the same problem out here in California this year. It's starting to get really warm during the days and I'm almost three months past due on a haircut because I just haven't made it back to Chicago where the only woman who's cut my hair since before I was a teen, is :laugh:
     
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    Another one from O Rei from 1970:



    Another goal served on platter, this time to Jairzinho:

     
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    Simply class.
     
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    Arrivederci goal from Kamil Kopunek in 2010.

     
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    I can only assume you aren't old enough to have witnessed the anti-football that was Italia 90
     
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    I was 9. I watched it with my family, but I didn't really comprehend it.
    EURO 92 was my first tournament where I started the football diet and watched every minute of every game, imitated players, idolized Flemming Povlsen (yes, out of all the players in the 92 EURO, Flemming Povlsen was my idol lol)...

    But Italia '90 felt like a WC, even to a kid. It's not just about football, its about the complete circus following it.
    Yes, the football was largely rubbish,but there was a buzz here with Italia 90, the culture and atmosphere were definitely there.
    FIFA using the WC to "expand" and make money and appeal to non-traditional football countries can be portrayed as good or bad - but its a fact that the atmosphere in Japan and South Korea was definitely not up to par of Italia 90, France 98 or Germany 2006.
     

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