Confirmed with Link: Faulk & 5th to STL for Edmundson, Bokk, 2021 7th

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Can anyone show that it was Faulk that did this? I just don't remember him being on the ice in OT and I don't have the ability to go watch the OT again to check.




EDIT: i was able to find the play by play on the NHL website. Man I can't believe he's so invisible in OT that I completely gloss over him existing.

'twas definitely Faulk. Took a backhand shot after Thomas gave him the pass.
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That poor shot selection was greatly exacerbated by that ridiculously stupid step up by Schenn.
 

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No, but only complaining and not acknowledging the good is just complaining for sport. In Blues last 5 games he has averaged over 20 minutes a night , scored a goal and is a plus 5 on a team that won all 5 of those games. Can't be all bad...
I agree that it's not all bad, but we shouldn't have to point out when a soon to be 6.5m defenseman makes a good play.
 

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I agree that it's not all bad, but we shouldn't have to point out when a soon to be 6.5m defenseman makes a good play.

We should start talking about his good plays to get Seattle fans excited about their new bestie Justin Faulk.

When does the expansion draft happen again?
 

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The trade was fine. And I don't even think the player is that bad. But I may never understand the contact. The length. The dollars. The decision to give it to him before he even puts on a Blues sweater. Seriously why not wait until like December and see how he is doing here before giving him 7 years?
 
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Who is the only Blues dmen who has negative +/- stats? Who is Blues player who's leading +/- stats being worse of it? Ofc +/- is relatively bad stats, but it kind of shows something what he's doing out there. Guys like Schwartz and Schenn are too negative at +/- stats, but at least they produce.

NHL.com Stats
 

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The trade was fine. And I don't even think the player is that bad. But I may never understand the contact. The length. The dollars. The decision to give it to him before he even puts on a Blues sweater. Seriously why not wait until like December and see how he is doing here before giving him 7 years?
At the time of the trade, the player had a partial NTC. While we may never know for sure, it is certainly possible that we were not on his approved list and, using the leverage he had with his expiring deal, he agreed to waive his NTC under the condition that we agree to a contract extension shortly after the trade. These terms would have necessarily had to have been discussed in general terms before the trade, and finalized some time after the trade.

While you can argue that Faulk has or hasn't been worth what he is being paid this year, and you can project based on your opinion of the player whether or not he will be worth what he will be paid in subsequent years under the extension, it isn't too much of a leap to the idea that Army was protecting his asset value given that a player under contract for the foreseeable future almost always has move value than a player on an expiring contract and certainly has more value than a UFA. Whether you agree with the move or not, I see this as Army protecting the value of the asset he acquired, as well as a hedge against losing Petro to free agency and not being required to pay UFA asset prices to acquire the services of a player to replace him.
 

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The trade was fine. And I don't even think the player is that bad. But I may never understand the contact. The length. The dollars. The decision to give it to him before he even puts on a Blues sweater. Seriously why not wait until like December and see how he is doing here before giving him 7 years?
That trade was very smart move by Army. We needed real powerplay specialist in blueline. His strenght at transition game, sharp passes, ability play fast game, great skater and excellant powerplay dmen and really good shot. Great qualities, but we've seen small glimpse of it. Horribly misused. Zero icetime at PP and overused his worst areas of game at PK. Use 40 games mixing up d-pairs and then fail with it. I still view Faulk - Pietro is right answer and nothing take away from Gunnar who has been good with Pietro. I hope they fix all this f***ing mess with Faulk and what to do with him.
 
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So our only chance is IF Faulk agree to move NTC out and agree to trade? When NTC kicks in?
 

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I couldn’t make heads or tails of the trade when it happened but I was willing to reserve judgment until Faulk had a chance to settle in. He’s played 67 games now and I’m not seeing it. I don’t even understand his usage. Army is paying a RHD 6.5 million per season who isn’t good enough to make either PP unit???

I don’t get it. A big reason why Faulk has been all star was due to racking up points on the PP. He’s not bringing much offense 5v5. He’s certainly not a shut down D.

Faulk could turn into the most hated Blues player since Eric Brewer.

If Pietrangelo walks I will understand Army shoring up the right side but I think this is one the scouting staff got wrong.
 

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I couldn’t make heads or tails of the trade when it happened but I was willing to reserve judgment until Faulk had a chance to settle in. He’s played 67 games now and I’m not seeing it. I don’t even understand his usage. Army is paying a RHD 6.5 million per season who isn’t good enough to make either PP unit???

I don’t get it. A big reason why Faulk has been all star was due to racking up points on the PP. He’s not bringing much offense 5v5. He’s certainly not a shut down D.

Faulk could turn into the most hated Blues player since Eric Brewer.

If Pietrangelo walks I will understand Army shoring up the right side but I think this is one the scouting staff got wrong.
Good post. This sums up where I am at right now. The most annoying thing about the whole situation is that I truly do not understand. Like you said, the trade and extension will make more sense if Pietrangelo walks, but I certainly won't be any happier. As for the scouting staff, well they certainly aren't infallible. Look at Yakupov. And Jerabek.
 
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Or we could quit bitching all the time about him and be glad that Borts won’t be our #2 RD if Petro walks.
Faulk at #2 RHD doesn't fix the problem. Don't you get it? Faulk isn't right fit in Blues and it doesn't help our coaching staff are misusing his potential and doing opposite with him playing at PK what is his weakest area of game.
 

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Faulk at #2 RHD doesn't fix the problem. Don't you get it? Faulk isn't right fit in Blues and it doesn't help our coaching staff are misusing his potential and doing opposite with him playing at PK what is his weakest area of game.
Its funny how Fabbri can be dismissed as "not a fit anymore" but we should be thankful we have Faulk. Might not be fair to draw a comparison between the two but still strikes me as odd.
 
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Blues play without Faulk and blank Chicago 2-0. Blues play with Faulk and see him on the ice for both goals-against in a 2-1 loss. It sure would be nice if he'd help dispel this notion that he's not a good fit for this club, but the narrative just continues to write itself with the facts being what they are. Meanwhile, Dunn, Parayko & Pietrangelo will all finish with 10+ goals again so at least Faulk's offensive falloff isn't killing a club that was counting on him to provide scoring from the back-end. I will agree with others that he's simply not been good on the PK, and the PK-unit that has finished top-10 in 4 of the past 5 years is now ranked 18th overall.
 

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Blues play without Faulk and blank Chicago 2-0. Blues play with Faulk and see him on the ice for both goals-against in a 2-1 loss. It sure would be nice if he'd help dispel this notion that he's not a good fit for this club, but the narrative just continues to write itself with the facts being what they are. Meanwhile, Dunn, Parayko & Pietrangelo will all finish with 10+ goals again so at least Faulk's offensive falloff isn't killing a club that was counting on him to provide scoring from the back-end. I will agree with others that he's simply not been good on the PK, and the PK-unit that has finished top-10 in 4 of the past 5 years is now ranked 18th overall.
They also got smoked by NJ without him in the lineup but we're just gonna ignore that one right lol
 
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Blues play without Faulk and blank Chicago 2-0. Blues play with Faulk and see him on the ice for both goals-against in a 2-1 loss. It sure would be nice if he'd help dispel this notion that he's not a good fit for this club, but the narrative just continues to write itself with the facts being what they are. Meanwhile, Dunn, Parayko & Pietrangelo will all finish with 10+ goals again so at least Faulk's offensive falloff isn't killing a club that was counting on him to provide scoring from the back-end. I will agree with others that he's simply not been good on the PK, and the PK-unit that has finished top-10 in 4 of the past 5 years is now ranked 18th overall.
Are we blaming Faulk now that Dunn got tripped behind net and lost puck? Or that net fell on Binny and threw him off? Or that Faulk had guy tied up in front but nobody picked up other winger? Or that on other goal Sunny whiffed on clearing it on PK?
 
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Are we blaming Faulk now that Dunn got tripped behind net and lost puck? Or that net fell on Binny and threw him off? Or that Faulk had guy tied up in front but nobody picked up other winger? Or that on other goal Sunny whiffed on clearing it on PK?

No blame. Just stating facts. Faulk apparently has incredibly bad luck, quite often...consistently being outscored while on the ice through no apparent fault of his own. Dude must have a dark cloud following him; but he's still nonetheless a great hockey player and deserves no criticism as his play is beyond reproach.
 
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he Has an extremely low Hockey IQ....with a great body(Skates well good edgework, can handle pucks well and has a decent shot) it’s the decision making or lack thereof that makes him imo absolutely atrocious. He doesn’t feel the game well. His defensive errors are always in coVerage and when he has to read or anticipate a play and his shot blocking is horrendous, he pulls his stick in rather than out and literally moves out of the shot lane every time. (See Hoffman goal). He’s horrible at picking up sticks and identifying his man net front whenever there’s a rebound or things break down, he compounds problems while extremely rarely ever fixing any. There’s a reason scandella has been a fantastic fit in his role with Parayko and it has nothing to do with puck handling ability. I’m at the point where due to the roles. I’d prefer bortuzzo to Faulk solely for his Penalty killing, shot blocking and physicality, bortz has basically generated the same amount of offense as Faulk as well lol.

now take in the fact that Petro Dunn and now Parayko are better offensively....there’s no reason to have this guy on our team, especially given his contract.
 
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I think there lies truth Bortuzzo is better fit compare to Faulk and team would benefit more having Bortuzzo in than Faulk how Faulk misuse has been. I would fine play Faulk if would be paired with Pietro and use him at poweplay and zero PK icetime.

I hope when playoffs start Faulk goes popcorn guy. Then we can't have d-core weak piece.
 
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Unfortunately i can not see too many games because of private problems, so therefore i have no opinion about Faulk his game. But did you guys ever wonder why the trainers staff let him play because he is that bad? You can also ask yourself: is there something wrong with the coaching staff, because they putt him on the ice.
 

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Unfortunately i can not see too many games because of private problems, so therefore i have no opinion about Faulk his game. But did you guys ever wonder why the trainers staff let him play because he is that bad? You can also ask yourself: is there something wrong with the coaching staff, because they putt him on the ice.
That's kind of a silly reason though. Just because they play him doesnt mean he's playing great. Given the investment, he's going to play. There is a middle ground between he's terrible and he's "ok". I've watched the majority of games and for the most part....he's ok, which isnt ok for a guy who's soon to make 6.5m for the next 7yrs as a Blue. If Faulk was set to be a UFA...I doubt too many people would give much of a crap. There are aspects of Faulks game that I do like....but it's not enough to offset what he's going to make.
 

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That's kind of a silly reason though. Just because they play him doesnt mean he's playing great. Given the investment, he's going to play. There is a middle ground between he's terrible and he's "ok". I've watched the majority of games and for the most part....he's ok, which isnt ok for a guy who's soon to make 6.5m for the next 7yrs as a Blue. If Faulk was set to be a UFA...I doubt too many people would give much of a crap. There are aspects of Faulks game that I do like....but it's not enough to offset what he's going to make.
This. The coaching staff is mandated to play Faulk because of the investment in him. I don't believe for a minute that Berube doesn't take orders from management. If Faulk was benched often, or got very limited icetime, Berube would have to answer to Armstrong. This, together with the sudden departure of Bouwmeester, is why Faulk is getting lots of icetime. It is not because of his stellar play, and there is more to it than "the coaching sees something the fans don't."
 
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