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  1. Panda Bear Registered User

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    Never said the formula was a perfect representation of hockey.

    ...but Danault, Eller and Blueger will have have Danault shut down Schenn (and then some), Eller crush Roslovic, and Blueger crush Backes. There's a reason Schenn isn't a full-time centre, and Roslovic just isn't there yet.

    Draisaitl will, obviously, crush Strome. Unfortunately, Panarin offsets that.
     
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    Would be interesting to see an all star team from each division when this is all over.
     
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    Panda should be in charge of them :popcorn:
     
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    I don't think Danault shuts down Schenn super effectively, Eller over Ros any day(naturally) and Backes is not there to put up points. Guy is quite good at the defensive side and can be quite physical. He isn't a 6m dollar man, but he is still an extremely effective player in a bottom 6 role.
     
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    Yeah Panda I'm taking Schenn over Danault
     
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    Panda is one of my favorite posters on here now, LOL. He reminds me of Kurt Angle from the WWE back in 1999-2001. Oh it’s true.....it’s damn true! :lol:
     
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    Sure, I'll give it a go!

    Max Pacioretty - Ryan O'Reilly - T.J Oshie
    Patrick Marleau - Logan Couture - Rickard Rakell
    Andrew Mangiapane - Jordan Staal - Josh Leivo
    William Carrier - Jordan Weal - Troy Terry

    Probably one of the premier offensive units in the game. Three pivots who've been in the Selke conversation, two with Cup rings to date. The top line is a healthy mix of two-way ability and high-end offense. They'd be a nightmare to play against.

    The second line is strong. The pairing of Couture and Rackell would be tough to handle, though the obvious weak link of a 40 year old Patrick Marleau exists, I'm not convinced he process to be much of a hindrance.

    The pairing of Jordan Staal and Andrew Mangiapane on the third line makes them an interesting shutdown option. The latter with plenty of speed to burn suggests this line would give opposing defensive units some grief. Leivo doesn't add much for me here either way.

    And if there's a weak line, it's the fourth who would probably see about 8 minutes a night considering the depth ahead of them. Carrier puts people through walls, so he might make a name for himself in a playoff series. Jordan Weal is an average depth C. And Troy Terry looks like a promising secondary scorer in the future, but overall I think this is a fourth line you'd probably have to monitor.

    Alex Edler - Alex Pietrangelo
    Devon Toews - Dylan DeMelo
    Dmitry Kulikov - Radko Gudas

    A defensive unit with an absolutely stellar top pairing led by one of the NHL's premier defensemen. Edler is a good puck-moving compliment, who'd probably thrive offensively playing with the best partner he's seen in his entire career.

    The second unit is a good mix of puck-moving ability and astute defense. No big names here, just a quiet 20 minute second pair. The third unit of Kulikov and Gudas is a unit built for the playoffs. Plenty of grit, plenty of physicality. Overall a bottom four capable of playing 20+ minutes a night, if needed.

    Elvis Merzlikins
    Craig Anderson

    A good young starter backed up by an over-the-hill but still competitive veteran. They're not pretty, but they should get the job done most nights.

    Overall I think this is a team full of veterans who'd be pushing for those one or two last shots at a Cup. Depth in all the right places, a reliable D unit and plenty of scoring options would make this team a Cup contender in real life.

    Well done.
     
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    The Super Team Tournament Round of 16 voting is underway. Anyone is welcome to vote and provide feedback!
     
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    Called it.

    I'd be in the playoffs if I kept all my fun making charts to myself.
     
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    No offence but I don't think you're charts made a difference at all.
     
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    Personally I had you as an average team. My opinion was not impacted by your chart making whatsoever.
     
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    Yeah, they were cool to look at and all, but I didn't vote based on that at all.
     
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    Why not? They pissed off everyone who wasn't in the top sixteen consistently, which is going to affect voting due to hurt feelings/annoyance.

    BNL, Messrules, Joey Moss, you, m0pe and hockeynorth are all posters off the top of my head who expressed annoyance at one point or another.
     
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    I wasn't and I voted without bias.

    They may have expressed annoyance, but I doubt they voted based on that.
     
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    I did vote Ottawa as a playoff team in the Atlantic.

    My logic was if Panarin can mostly carry a team to 9th and Hellebuyck can mostly carry an awful D to a playoff spot - then if they were together, along with enough good pieces, they'd be a playoff team, but that's just me.
     
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    Whats your point....you chose to piss people off....so did I?

    our centers still arnt great.
     
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    I was never annoyed. I found it interesting that I was at the bottom and joked about it, but as I said, they had ZERO impact of where I voted you (I believe 5th in the Atlantic)
     
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    Panda Bear's stats had me as a top-2 Central team consistently.

    I still voted him last in the Atlantic.
     
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    FWIW I didn't put any value into your analysis. It didn't sway me either way. A team with Artemi Panarin as its sole offensive driver, Ryan Strome as its top C and MacKenzie Weegar on its top pair wouldn't be competitive.

    You had a couple very good players and saddled them with players who'd drag them down.
     
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    I am curious to see what NHL 20 sim would have to say about the standings of this fantasy draft with all of our players on our selected teams. I don’t have time to edit in the players on the different rosters, etc., but if someone does, it might be interesting to see what it says......and which team would defeat which team in the finals.
     
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    He had me spot on unfortunately and so I can’t complain about his assessment (17th-20th calibre team).
     
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    It looks like this was done with the current NHL teams. Absolutely bogus result with Calgary winning the cup :laugh:

    NHL 20 Stanley Cup Playoffs simulation: Flames win first Cup since 1989 as Bruins fall short again
     
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    Panda's rankings were pretty fair. I had TOR - PHI as top two teams and he had them as 2-3.

    His team was ranked #1 and I had it in the playoffs but not top 5 (probably 10-13).

    Reason for this divergence is obvious. If you draft via the same criteria as your rankings it's literally not possible to be anything but #1.
     
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    I would have loved to have the data to crunch in zone entries/exits/denials, and I've already played around with some grit formula.

    Might be some combination of hits given, hits taken (because you're okay with getting hit), select penalties (roughing, cross checking, fighting), shots blocked.
     

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