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[Garbage Goal]

Just did my 10 team Head to Head Each Category draft. I had the 7th Overall pick. 9 Forwards, 5 D-Men, and 2 Goalies play each day with 6 players on the bench. The scoring categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, ATOI, and SOG for skaters and W, GAA, and SV% for Goalies. My goalies are far and away the best duo in the league IMO. I wanted to make sure that I had a hold on at least three of the categories each week, which I think I will. I like my forwards and their depth but my defense is pretty top heavy. I picked Shanahan last and have since dropped him to pick up Fedor Tyutin. What do you guys think?

Forwards (Pick #):
Corey Perry (14)
Nicklas Backstrom (34)
Joe Thornton (67)
Brad Marchand (74)
P.A. Parenteau (87)
Jeff Carter (107)
Nathan MacKinnon (114)
Blake Wheeler (127)
Brad Richards (134)
Jason Pominville (154)
Justin Williams (174)
Tyler Bozak (194)
Alex Steen (214)
Brendan Shanahan (227)

Defenseman (Pick #):
Erik Karlsson (7)
Mike Green (47)
Kimmo Timonen (94)
Justin Faulk (147)
Torey Krug (167)
Matt Irwin (207)

Goalies (Pick #):
Jonathan Quick (27)
Sergei Bobrovsky (54)
Semyon Varlamov (187)

You picked some risky top-end forwards. Thornton has a regression risk albeit not a large one and Perry is still unclear whether he's a Hart candidate type of guy or not. Then there's Brad Richards on top of all that. Carter was a great pick though. Guy is still a really underrated goal scorer and will help in your league with the SOG as a category. Picking Pominville that low was a little risky but it worked out because that's probably a steal.

You should try and upgrade on Varlamov though or just run two goalies if possible.

 

[ilovetheflyers8]

I picked today. I had the first pick and went with Stamkos. I realize Crosby would've been a better pick but I couldn't do it. I'm not too happy with my bench, and I should've picked some players with better shot blocking stats. What do you guys think?

The stats are G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, Blocks, PIMs, Short Handed Points, GWG .

C - Stakmos, Kopitar, Hodgson
LW- B. Marchand, B. Saad
RW- Voracek, Ryder
W- B. Galagher
F- S. Koivu
D- Subban, Kieth, Franson, Goligoski
G-Schneider, Nabokov
BN- Ott, M. Letestu, Valeri Nichushkin, Souray

 

[SchennSational1022*]

Just did my 10 team Head to Head Each Category draft. I had the 7th Overall pick. 9 Forwards, 5 D-Men, and 2 Goalies play each day with 6 players on the bench. The scoring categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, ATOI, and SOG for skaters and W, GAA, and SV% for Goalies. My goalies are far and away the best duo in the league IMO. I wanted to make sure that I had a hold on at least three of the categories each week, which I think I will. I like my forwards and their depth but my defense is pretty top heavy. I picked Shanahan last and have since dropped him to pick up Fedor Tyutin. What do you guys think?

Forwards (Pick #):
Corey Perry (14)
Nicklas Backstrom (34)
Joe Thornton (67)
Brad Marchand (74)
P.A. Parenteau (87)
Jeff Carter (107)
Nathan MacKinnon (114)
Blake Wheeler (127)
Brad Richards (134)
Jason Pominville (154)
Justin Williams (174)
Tyler Bozak (194)
Alex Steen (214)
Brendan Shanahan (227)

Defenseman (Pick #):
Erik Karlsson (7)
Mike Green (47)
Kimmo Timonen (94)
Justin Faulk (147)
Torey Krug (167)
Matt Irwin (207)

Goalies (Pick #):
Jonathan Quick (27)
Sergei Bobrovsky (54)
Semyon Varlamov (187)

Those 2 seem like steals where you got them.

 

[flyersfan018]

Those 2 seem like steals where you got them.

Got Faulk at #199.

 

[MorgantiDrinksBlood]

Stats are Goals, Assists, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO.

Round Pick Player Position
1. (9) Claude Giroux C,RW
2. (16) Pekka Rinne G
3. (33) Taylor Hall LW
4. (40) Ryan Getzlaf C
5. (57) Jamie Benn LW
6. (64) Shea Weber D
7. (81) Alex Pietrangelo D
8. (88) Joe Pavelski C,RW
9. (105) Kimmo Timonen D
10. (112) Ondrej Pavelec G
11. (129) Brian Elliott G
12. (136) Brad Richards C
13. (153) Troy Brouwer RW
14. (160) Francois Beauchemin D
15. (177) Sheldon Souray D
16. (184) Daniel Alfredsson RW

12 man pro league with yahoo, first year in fantasy, I don't think I did too bad.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

You picked some risky top-end forwards. Thornton has a regression risk albeit not a large one and Perry is still unclear whether he's a Hart candidate type of guy or not. Then there's Brad Richards on top of all that. Carter was a great pick though. Guy is still a really underrated goal scorer and will help in your league with the SOG as a category. Picking Pominville that low was a little risky but it worked out because that's probably a steal.

You should try and upgrade on Varlamov though or just run two goalies if possible.

This was the first draft in a long time where I didn't simply take players I like or draft based on what they'll be in the future instead of what they are now.

Thornton definitely has the potential to regress but he'll still be on their top line even though they won't be using him in the key situations as much as they have in the past with other players rising to the occasion.

Perry I think is closer to the Hart candidate type then not, plus his PIM's are nice to go along.

Brad Richards I think will have a bounce back season now that he doesn't have Torts looking over his shoulder. He's good on the power play and is starting the season on the wing on a line with Stepan and Nash so he won't have as much defensive responsibility. Even though he's "down" he still scored at above a .75PPG pace both seasons in NY. As a 9th forward I'll take it.

I took Carter because I needed a goal scorer to match my assist heavy forwards (Thornton and Backstrom) and I definitely agree that he is underrated there.

Dobber has Pominville as the 53rd skater so I don't think I took him too early at all but like you said it could be a steal.

Those 2 seem like steals where you got them.

Kimmo I was extremely happy to see there still. I was surprised that Streit went before him in the draft.

 

[Krishna]

In my keeper league, I have Joni Pitkanen and he's likely out for the season. I had a guy offer me Ehrhoff for a 1st (Likely to be 15th overall to 20th overall) and 2 3rds (Anywhere from 40-60). Is that a good deal to take?

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

20 team rotisserie league, with categories G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, FW, Hits, Blocks, Wins, Saves and Sv%. Positions are 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 2D, 2 utility, 1G, 1 bench. I had last pick.

1. Perry (20) - RW
2. Spezza (21) - C
3. Mikko Koivu (60) - C
4. Voracek (61) - RW
5. Hodgson (100) - C, RW
6. Elias (101) - C, LW
7. Seabrook (140) - D
8. Brayden Schenn (141) - C, LW
9. Cam Ward (180) - G
10. Slava Voynov (181) - D
11. Varlamov (220) - G
12. Jack Johnson (221) - D

The key categories that always make or break this pool are faceoffs and blocks. I have three dedicated centres (Spezza, Koivu & Hodgson), plus a couple guys that win faceoffs here and there (Elias & Schenn). I took a third defenseman to help with the blocks.

A secret I figured out a couple years ago for this pool is to draft goalies who play a lot on medicore teams... and only play them on home games and the occasional road game. Because there's only one goalie spot, it works out well... though there is only one bench spot, which is then occupied by one of your goalies. By the end of the year I do a lot of add/drops to max out games played by other positions.

It feels weird to have two Flyers. Over the last 3 years, over 6 different pools, the only Flyers I ended up drafting were Timonen and Pronger.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Just did my 10 team Head to Head Each Category draft. I had the 7th Overall pick. 9 Forwards, 5 D-Men, and 2 Goalies play each day with 6 players on the bench. The scoring categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, ATOI, and SOG for skaters and W, GAA, and SV% for Goalies. My goalies are far and away the best duo in the league IMO. I wanted to make sure that I had a hold on at least three of the categories each week, which I think I will. I like my forwards and their depth but my defense is pretty top heavy. I picked Shanahan last and have since dropped him to pick up Fedor Tyutin. What do you guys think?

Forwards (Pick #):
Corey Perry (14)
Nicklas Backstrom (34)
Joe Thornton (67)
Brad Marchand (74)
P.A. Parenteau (87)
Jeff Carter (107)
Nathan MacKinnon (114)
Blake Wheeler (127)
Brad Richards (134)
Jason Pominville (154)
Justin Williams (174)
Tyler Bozak (194)
Alex Steen (214)
Brendan Shanahan (227)

Defenseman (Pick #):
Erik Karlsson (7)
Mike Green (47)
Kimmo Timonen (94)
Justin Faulk (147)
Torey Krug (167)
Matt Irwin (207)

Goalies (Pick #):
Jonathan Quick (27)
Sergei Bobrovsky (54)
Semyon Varlamov (187)

Bah?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Bah?

He's still draftable on ESPN.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I drafted Hasek in a Fantrax league. It made me happy.

 

[flyersfan018]

I drafted Hasek in a Fantrax league. It made me happy.

Is that the one you are currently inactive in?

 

[Garbage Goal]

I picked today. I had the first pick and went with Stamkos. I realize Crosby would've been a better pick but I couldn't do it. I'm not too happy with my bench, and I should've picked some players with better shot blocking stats. What do you guys think?

The stats are G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, Blocks, PIMs, Short Handed Points, GWG .

C - Stakmos, Kopitar, Hodgson
LW- B. Marchand, B. Saad
RW- Voracek, Ryder
W- B. Galagher
F- S. Koivu
D- Subban, Kieth, Franson, Goligoski
G-Schneider, Nabokov
BN- Ott, M. Letestu, Valeri Nichushkin, Souray

What are the goalie stats? Yeah you should have gone with Malkin or Crosby. As far as blocks go, that's the only peripheral stat there meaning the only stat that's not really scoring related (aside from PIM) so I wouldn't worry about it. You might want a blocks and/or PIM specialist instead of a lower-end guy but for the most part you should just focus on scoring more then your opponent since that takes up the majority of the stats.

I like your team overall, but without knowing more about the league I can't say if having guys like Saad and Nichushkin on the team is smart. You have an interesting situation in goal with two guys in opposite situations and points in their career.

Stats are Goals, Assists, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO.

Round Pick Player Position
1. (9) Claude Giroux C,RW
2. (16) Pekka Rinne G
3. (33) Taylor Hall LW
4. (40) Ryan Getzlaf C
5. (57) Jamie Benn LW
6. (64) Shea Weber D
7. (81) Alex Pietrangelo D
8. (88) Joe Pavelski C,RW
9. (105) Kimmo Timonen D
10. (112) Ondrej Pavelec G
11. (129) Brian Elliott G
12. (136) Brad Richards C
13. (153) Troy Brouwer RW
14. (160) Francois Beauchemin D
15. (177) Sheldon Souray D
16. (184) Daniel Alfredsson RW

12 man pro league with yahoo, first year in fantasy, I don't think I did too bad.

Congrats on your first year. You did okay for your first year, I was a horrible fantasy GM my first season. I hate the Rinne pick. Plays on a bad team, coming off a poor season (for him), and is more of a save percentage horse then anything. That early you should have either went with a better caliber fantasy goalie or waited to draft goalies depending on who was available. Your forward picks were great. However, since your league doesn't weight D scoring or have much in peripheral stats you shouldn't have drafted D so high. D score less then forwards. That's just a straight-up fact. A top-end offensive D scores at least 40 points. A top end offensive forward? At least 70 or 80. It's simple numbers.

No offense and take this as a tip since you're new to fantasy but your goalie picks are just bad. I already elaborated on Rinne, but Pavelec is only a good pick in a league that counts Saves which yours does not. He posts bad to mediocre numbers, his skill is in question, and he's at risk to lose his starter position constantly really (though only slightly). Elliott is obvious why. Historically a horrible goalie before St. Louis and in competition with a better goalie in Halak and a younger goalie in Allen.

Your taste for forwards is very good though.

In my keeper league, I have Joni Pitkanen and he's likely out for the season. I had a guy offer me Ehrhoff for a 1st (Likely to be 15th overall to 20th overall) and 2 3rds (Anywhere from 40-60). Is that a good deal to take?

Prospect picks? It depends on that and what the scoring is. If your league weights D scoring or something liek that do it, otherwise no. D is only important in leagues that go out of their way to make D more valuable (short of a guy like Karlsson). Though that's just what I think.

20 team rotisserie league, with categories G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, FW, Hits, Blocks, Wins, Saves and Sv%. Positions are 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 2D, 2 utility, 1G, 1 bench. I had last pick.

1. Perry (20) - RW
2. Spezza (21) - C
3. Mikko Koivu (60) - C
4. Voracek (61) - RW
5. Hodgson (100) - C, RW
6. Elias (101) - C, LW
7. Seabrook (140) - D
8. Brayden Schenn (141) - C, LW
9. Cam Ward (180) - G
10. Slava Voynov (181) - D
11. Varlamov (220) - G
12. Jack Johnson (221) - D

The key categories that always make or break this pool are faceoffs and blocks. I have three dedicated centres (Spezza, Koivu & Hodgson), plus a couple guys that win faceoffs here and there (Elias & Schenn). I took a third defenseman to help with the blocks.

A secret I figured out a couple years ago for this pool is to draft goalies who play a lot on medicore teams... and only play them on home games and the occasional road game. Because there's only one goalie spot, it works out well... though there is only one bench spot, which is then occupied by one of your goalies. By the end of the year I do a lot of add/drops to max out games played by other positions.

It feels weird to have two Flyers. Over the last 3 years, over 6 different pools, the only Flyers I ended up drafting were Timonen and Pronger.

You're a smart fantasy player. My first fantasy league had the normal scoring cats, PIM, goalie cats, and FW. I knew that drafting high scoring centers that win FW was the key to winning because then I get the scoring in addition to the FW stat that wingers just don't give you so you're essentially getting more production out of centers then other skaters. You picked up on that apparently.

Koivu and Spezza are terrific in leagues that count FW so it was smart picking them. Guys like Schenn will add a bit extra, but I think you should have picked another FW guy that can contribute secondary scoring instead of Hodgson (unless he's better at FW then I thought). You picked D last generally which I love and your goalies are a mixed bag. They'll be big guys for the Saves category but their Wins and Save Percentage will be mid to bottom-tier. Luckily though most of your categories are skater-based so as long as you win Saves that should be enough.

A to A+.

 

[SchennSational1022*]

How do you guys think I did on my first fantasy draft?

+/- - 1 point
A - 2 points
Plus a 3 point bonus @ 3+ A

Blocked Shots = .5 points
DA Defenseman Assists 1 point
DG Defenseman Goals 3 points
G Goals 3 points
Plus a 5 point bonus @ 3+ G

GA Goals Against -1 point
PIM Penalty Minutes 0.25 points
PPG Power Play Goals 2 points
S Saves 0.2 points
SHG Short Handed Goals 1 point
SO Shut Outs 3 points
W Wins 5 points


Centers: Kopitar, Carter, Ribeiro
Wings: Hall, Pacioretty, Bobby Ryan, Landeskog, Semin, Wheeler
Defensemen: Karlsson, Timonen, Wideman, Edler

Goalies: Luongo and Schneider

Bench:
Filppula, Gardiner, Beartschi, Silfverberg, Beau Bennett, Coyle and Varlamov

Thoughts?

 

[ilovetheflyers8]

What are the goalie stats? Yeah you should have gone with Malkin or Crosby. As far as blocks go, that's the only peripheral stat there meaning the only stat that's not really scoring related (aside from PIM) so I wouldn't worry about it. You might want a blocks and/or PIM specialist instead of a lower-end guy but for the most part you should just focus on scoring more then your opponent since that takes up the majority of the stats.

I like your team overall, but without knowing more about the league I can't say if having guys like Saad and Nichushkin on the team is smart. You have an interesting situation in goal with two guys in opposite situations and points in their career.

Thanks for the feedback. Goalie stats are W, GAA, SV%, and shutouts. I picked Schneider in hopes that he'll split the season with Brodeur and I expect he will do well. I think the Islanders will be a decent team, and though I don't think Nabokov will have awesome stats I assume he'll get a majority of starts and have average numbers and a fair number of wins.

Why not Saad? You think he might not repeat last season's success? I picked up Ott for PIMs but I might replace him with Downie who is available and there are bunch of pretty good players still available including Grabovski, Radim Vrbata, Michael Grabner, Devin Setoguchi, Cory Conacher, and Andrew Cogliano who are all probably better picks than Nichushkin and several of them play for teams that I haven't picked from.

edit- I didn't realize that last year was Saad's first season.

 

[Garbage Goal]

How do you guys think I did on my first fantasy draft?

+/- - 1 point
A - 2 points
Plus a 3 point bonus @ 3+ A

Blocked Shots = .5 points
DA Defenseman Assists 1 point
DG Defenseman Goals 3 points
G Goals 3 points
Plus a 5 point bonus @ 3+ G

GA Goals Against -1 point
PIM Penalty Minutes 0.25 points
PPG Power Play Goals 2 points
S Saves 0.2 points
SHG Short Handed Goals 1 point
SO Shut Outs 3 points
W Wins 5 points


Centers: Kopitar, Carter, Ribeiro
Wings: Hall, Pacioretty, Bobby Ryan, Landeskog, Semin, Wheeler
Defensemen: Karlsson, Timonen, Wideman, Edler

Goalies: Luongo and Schneider

Bench:
Filppula, Gardiner, Beartschi, Silfverberg, Beau Bennett, Coyle and Varlamov

Thoughts?

Very intriguing scoring settings. Just points all over the place. It's scoring-centric mostly and there's specific categories solely for D so I'd prioritize around building high scoring D and big-time goal scorers since there's a lot of different goal scoring categories worth big points (PPG, G, SHG, DG, G x 3). As for goalies, just ones that get lots of wins should be the best bet.

With all that in mind I love your team for the most part. Nice secondary scoring bench, some big-time goal scorers like Carter, Ryan, Kopitar and excellent D contribution which is big for this league. Don't change your D roster at all. Your goaltending is a nice combination because Schneider should bring quality stats while Luongo should bring the Wins.

Only suggestion is to try to wheel and deal Ribeiro for a more goal-centric player.

Why not Saad? You think he might not repeat last season's success? I picked up Ott for PIMs but I might replace him with Downie who is available and there are bunch of pretty good players still available including Grabovski, Radim Vrbata, Michael Grabner, Devin Setoguchi, Cory Conacher, and Andrew Cogliano who are all probably better picks than Nichushkin and several of them play for teams that I haven't picked from.

edit- I didn't realize that last year was Saad's first season.

I think Schneider will easily pick up the starter position a little more down the season so I think you'll get some more contribution from him then you'd think.

Yeah if this is a one year league or you have a minors roster definitely get rid of Nichushkin. Same for Saad.

Saad is a second round pick sophomore coming off a 10 G, 27 P in 46 Game season. That's not an overly impressive rookie season so his sophomore shouldn't be all that great either especially considering he has the draft pedigree of a 2nd rounder still. I'd drop those two and pick up two of Downie/Grabrovski/Vrbata/Grabner personally.

 

[SchennSational1022*]

Very intriguing scoring settings. Just points all over the place. It's scoring-centric mostly and there's specific categories solely for D so I'd prioritize around building high scoring D and big-time goal scorers since there's a lot of different goal scoring categories worth big points (PPG, G, SHG, DG, G x 3). As for goalies, just ones that get lots of wins should be the best bet.

With all that in mind I love your team for the most part. Nice secondary scoring bench, some big-time goal scorers like Carter, Ryan, Kopitar and excellent D contribution which is big for this league. Don't change your D roster at all. Your goaltending is a nice combination because Schneider should bring quality stats while Luongo should bring the Wins.

Only suggestion is to try to wheel and deal Ribeiro for a more goal-centric player.



I think Schneider will easily pick up the starter position a little more down the season so I think you'll get some more contribution from him then you'd think.

Yeah if this is a one year league or you have a minors roster definitely get rid of Nichushkin. Same for Saad.

Saad is a second round pick sophomore coming off a 10 G, 27 P in 46 Game season. That's not an overly impressive rookie season so his sophomore shouldn't be all that great either especially considering he has the draft pedigree of a 2nd rounder still. I'd drop those two and pick up two of Downie/Grabrovski/Vrbata/Grabner personally.

Thanks man. I picked Karlsson at 4th overall lol. I also just got Brodin off waivers, what a steal.

 

[ilovetheflyers8]

I think Schneider will easily pick up the starter position a little more down the season so I think you'll get some more contribution from him then you'd think.

Yeah if this is a one year league or you have a minors roster definitely get rid of Nichushkin. Same for Saad.

Saad is a second round pick sophomore coming off a 10 G, 27 P in 46 Game season. That's not an overly impressive rookie season so his sophomore shouldn't be all that great either especially considering he has the draft pedigree of a 2nd rounder still. I'd drop those two and pick up two of Downie/Grabrovski/Vrbata/Grabner personally.

Thanks I switched Vrbata for Nichushkin, Downie for Saad, and Grabovski for Letestu as it is rather likely Grabovski will put up more points and possibly have a better +/-, though Letestu is more likely to get SH points.

Potential tip for people, it probably isn't worth picking him up at this point but I read that CBJ rookie Boone Jenner will start the season on the top line with Gaborik. https://twitter.com/RobMixer/status/384005601434402816

 

[Garbage Goal]

Thanks man. I picked Karlsson at 4th overall lol. I also just got Brodin off waivers, what a steal.

Yeah Karlsson hands-down is even better then Crosby or Malkin in leagues that have specialized D specific scoring categories in addition to regular scoring. Or at least I think so.

Thanks I switched Vrbata for Nichushkin, Downie for Saad, and Grabovski for Letestu as it is rather likely Grabovski will put up more points and possibly have a better +/-, though Letestu is more likely to get SH points.

Potential tip for people, it probably isn't worth picking him up at this point but I read that CBJ rookie Boone Jenner will start the season on the top line with Gaborik. https://twitter.com/RobMixer/status/384005601434402816

The Letestu switch was smart as well.

 

[dingbathero]

Giroux for Stamkos - I'd be getting Stamkos.

I also have H. Sedin as my C.

Yahoo! league.

 

[Garbage Goal]

Giroux for Stamkos - I'd be getting Stamkos.

I also have H. Sedin as my C.

Yahoo! league.

Depends on the scoring categories.

In points only it's roughly an even swap but I'd take Stamkos personally.

 

[flyersfan018]

Giroux for Stamkos - I'd be getting Stamkos.

I also have H. Sedin as my C.

Yahoo! league.

Do it (Unless you already did). Sedin and Giroux won't score you too many goals but Sedin and Stamkos will give you a nice mix.

 

[Krishna]

The fantrax app is now a public beta

 

[you Giroux it for me]

meant to post this a few days ago to get opinions, but thoughts on my draft?

3 Sidney Crosby, Pit C
18 P.K. Subban, Mon D
23 Ryan Suter, Min D
38 Carey Price, Mon G
43 Jason Spezza, Ott C
58 Logan Couture, SJ C
63 Matt Moulson, NYI LW
78 P.A. Parenteau, Col RW
83 Jason Pominville, Min RW
98 Loui Eriksson, Bos LW
103 Scott Hartnell, Phi LW
118 Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Pho D
123 Cam Ward, Car G
138 Kari Lehtonen, Dal G
143 Jack Johnson, Cls D
158 David Perron, Edm LW
163 Mikhail Grobovski, Wsh C
178 Lubomir Visnovsky, NYI D
183 Jordan Staal, Car C
198 Ryan O'Reilly, Col C, LW
203 Brayden Schenn, Phi LW
218 Jacob Trouba, NJ D



scoring is
Goals (G) 3
Assists (A) 2
Penalty Minutes (PIM) 0.3
Short Handed Goals (SHG) 2
Short Handed Assists (SHA) 1
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 0.5
Hat Tricks (HAT) 1
Shots on goal (SOG) 0.1
Hits (HIT) 0.1
Blocked Shots (BLK) 0.1
Defensemen Points (DEF) 1
Power Play Points (PPP) 1

Goaltending
Wins (W) 5 Goals Against (GA) -1
Saves (SV) 0.2 Shutouts (SO) 3

 

[dingbathero]

Kimmo and Hartnell just put on waivers in my league...

I think Kimmo will come around not sure how Hartnell will do


I have

Bobby Ryan
Landeskog
S. Downie
All can be used as LW.

I have

Pietriangelo
Phanuef
Seabrook
Bieksa
at D

I am think to drop Seabrook for Kimmo ?
Downie for Hartnell?

Thoughts?