Fantasy GM Thread | Part 8

[PavelBure10]

Adam Pelech is becoming an RFA I believe.l this offseason. If the Isles can’t afford to keep him is he a potential target to partner with Hughes?

He would be a beauty defensive partner for Hughes.

 

[M2Beezy]

Brandon Montour is available from Sabres, wonder what the ask is. He's someone we should be all over

Apparently hes been sucking ass lately, is it the Buffalo syndroam or does just suck now? I dont trust Bennings pro scouting anyways so not sure how to feel about that

 

[ginner classic]

With LTIR, long haul covid, quarantines and the compressed schedule, the few selling teams that have players on expiring deals that can ship the players now are going to get above market returns. There are very few teams that can afford to deal a player and not get a guy back for more than two weeks. The market for players like Benn is growing by the day. That's not me being an optimist, that's me understanding the realities of the the market. Virtanen, Sutter, Benn, and Pearson. That should be the priority list of departures.

Florida, St Louis, Buffalo, New Jersey, Boston, Arizona, Calgary and Pittsburgh are likely looking for some help. Anaheim could be on that list for a younger player like Virtanen.

Zero interest in trading Gaudette. Our center depth is dire.

 

[Fatass]

With LTIR, long haul covid, quarantines and the compressed schedule, the few selling teams that have players on expiring deals that can ship the players now are going to get above market returns. There are very few teams that can afford to deal a player and not get a guy back for more than two weeks. The market for players like Benn is growing by the day. That's not me being an optimist, that's me understanding the realities of the the market. Virtanen, Sutter, Benn, and Pearson. That should be the priority list of departures.

Florida, St Louis, Buffalo, New Jersey, Boston, Arizona, Calgary and Pittsburgh are likely looking for some help. Anaheim could be on that list for a younger player like Virtanen.

Zero interest in trading Gaudette. Our center depth is dire.

First Benning/Brod need to be replaced before any trades. These two are proven losers in evaluating return.
Would our owner retain salary to improve return?

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

With LTIR, long haul covid, quarantines and the compressed schedule, the few selling teams that have players on expiring deals that can ship the players now are going to get above market returns. There are very few teams that can afford to deal a player and not get a guy back for more than two weeks. The market for players like Benn is growing by the day. That's not me being an optimist, that's me understanding the realities of the the market. Virtanen, Sutter, Benn, and Pearson. That should be the priority list of departures.

Florida, St Louis, Buffalo, New Jersey, Boston, Arizona, Calgary and Pittsburgh are likely looking for some help. Anaheim could be on that list for a younger player like Virtanen.

Zero interest in trading Gaudette. Our center depth is dire.

I like/agree with everything you are saying and it is encouraging when you know there is a solution to improve our team for the following year and if it wasn’t for years and years of deadline disappointments when the easy solutions are glazed over it ultimately ends in disappointment for me

 

[4Twenty]

With LTIR, long haul covid, quarantines and the compressed schedule, the few selling teams that have players on expiring deals that can ship the players now are going to get above market returns. There are very few teams that can afford to deal a player and not get a guy back for more than two weeks. The market for players like Benn is growing by the day. That's not me being an optimist, that's me understanding the realities of the the market. Virtanen, Sutter, Benn, and Pearson. That should be the priority list of departures.

Florida, St Louis, Buffalo, New Jersey, Boston, Arizona, Calgary and Pittsburgh are likely looking for some help. Anaheim could be on that list for a younger player like Virtanen.

Zero interest in trading Gaudette. Our center depth is dire.

Agreed with everything but the Gaudette bit. He’s not an nhl Center and isn’t good.

Would make a nice sweetener possibly to clear a salary.

You can acquire nhl caliber 3C’s for $1-2.5m easily in ufa these days.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Apparently hes been sucking ass lately, is it the Buffalo syndroam or does just suck now? I dont trust Bennings pro scouting anyways so not sure how to feel about that

Apparently, he's been forced to play LD when he's a RD. Could be why he's looked so bad recently.

 

[ginner classic]

Agreed with everything but the Gaudette bit. He’s not an nhl Center and isn’t good.

Would make a nice sweetener possibly to clear a salary.

You can acquire nhl caliber 3C’s for $1-2.5m easily in ufa these days.

I don't think he is enough of a sweetener to clear long term salary and frankly I am not interested in giving up younger players to do so. Job number one has to be to clear the decks on veteran expiring contracts. Job number two is to deal with longer term salaries by shifting them from areas of depth to areas of need. Job number three is to identify opportunities to pick up expansion exposed players. Gaudette has shown enough at wing that I would keep him. There is no real business case for focusing on that player as trade fodder, at least not yet. If Pearson is traded, he is the guy you put on Horvat's wing.

 

[clay]

Would be all over targeting Scott Laughton this offseason as a 3rd line center if the price was $3M per year or less. Would provide twice the skill of Brandon Sutter and 20 times the sandpaper.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Would be all over targeting Scott Laughton this offseason as a 3rd line center if the price was $3M per year or less. Would provide twice the skill of Brandon Sutter and 20 times the sandpaper.

Agreed. I think he would be a great pickup.

Foundational even.

 

[rypper]

If we didn't already have jay Beagle making 3m in the bottom six I'd like to know what it take to get Adam Lowry out of Winnipeg.

(He's a UFA but has played his whole career there, I think he re-signs.)

 

[tyhee]

This doesn't make any sense. The teams they are restricted to playing had a better record last year than the mean of the league and a few of them made significant additions.

Your comment included the words “The teams they are restricted to playing had a better record last year than the mean of the league ...” That’s incorrect. The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing were below the mean last season.

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Bos	70	100	.714
TB	70	92	.657
Tor	70	81	.579
Fl	69	78	.565
Mtl	71	71	.500
Buff	69	68	.493
Ott	71	62	.437
Det	71	39	.275
Wash	69	90	,652
Phi	69	89	.645
Pit	69	86	.623
Car	68	81	.596
CBJ	70	81	.579
NYI	68	80	.588
NYR	70	79	.564
NJ	69	68	.493
StL	71	94	.662
CAv	70	92	.657
Dal	69	82	.594
Wpg	71	80	.563
Nsh	69	78	.565
Min	69	77	.558
Chi	70	72	.514
Veg	71	86	.606
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
Van	69	78	.565
Az	70	74	.529
Ana	71	67	.472
LA	70	64	.457
SJ	70	63	.450
TOTAL/AVE	2164	2414	.558

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the league (see table) was .558. It is .558 whether it is calculated for each team individually and then averaged, or totalled and calculated as a whole.
The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing:

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Tor	70	81	.579
Mtl	71	71	.500
Ott	71	62	.437
Wpg	71	80	.563
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
TOTAL/AVE	424	456	.538

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing=456/(424x2)=.538.
The results of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing this year is worse than the mean of the league’s results.

I'm not going to analyze additions and subtractions, but on the face of it 420's point stands.

 

[Fatass]

Your comment included the words “The teams they are restricted to playing had a better record last year than the mean of the league ...” That’s incorrect. The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing were below the mean last season.

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Bos	70	100	.714
TB	70	92	.657
Tor	70	81	.579
Fl	69	78	.565
Mtl	71	71	.500
Buff	69	68	.493
Ott	71	62	.437
Det	71	39	.275
Wash	69	90	,652
Phi	69	89	.645
Pit	69	86	.623
Car	68	81	.596
CBJ	70	81	.579
NYI	68	80	.588
NYR	70	79	.564
NJ	69	68	.493
StL	71	94	.662
CAv	70	92	.657
Dal	69	82	.594
Wpg	71	80	.563
Nsh	69	78	.565
Min	69	77	.558
Chi	70	72	.514
Veg	71	86	.606
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
Van	69	78	.565
Az	70	74	.529
Ana	71	67	.472
LA	70	64	.457
SJ	70	63	.450
TOTAL/AVE	2164	2414	.558

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the league (see table) was .558. It is .558 whether it is calculated for each team individually and then averaged, or totalled and calculated as a whole.
The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing:

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Tor	70	81	.579
Mtl	71	71	.500
Ott	71	62	.437
Wpg	71	80	.563
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
TOTAL/AVE	424	456	.538

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing=456/(424x2)=.538.
The results of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing this year is worse than the mean of the league’s results.

I'm not going to analyze additions and subtractions, but on the face of it 420's point stands.

Oh yes, the Canadian division is craperolla. And we are the bottom of the crappiest.
Thank you ?Benning.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Your comment included the words “The teams they are restricted to playing had a better record last year than the mean of the league ...” That’s incorrect. The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing were below the mean last season.

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Bos	70	100	.714
TB	70	92	.657
Tor	70	81	.579
Fl	69	78	.565
Mtl	71	71	.500
Buff	69	68	.493
Ott	71	62	.437
Det	71	39	.275
Wash	69	90	,652
Phi	69	89	.645
Pit	69	86	.623
Car	68	81	.596
CBJ	70	81	.579
NYI	68	80	.588
NYR	70	79	.564
NJ	69	68	.493
StL	71	94	.662
CAv	70	92	.657
Dal	69	82	.594
Wpg	71	80	.563
Nsh	69	78	.565
Min	69	77	.558
Chi	70	72	.514
Veg	71	86	.606
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
Van	69	78	.565
Az	70	74	.529
Ana	71	67	.472
LA	70	64	.457
SJ	70	63	.450
TOTAL/AVE	2164	2414	.558

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the league (see table) was .558. It is .558 whether it is calculated for each team individually and then averaged, or totalled and calculated as a whole.
The teams the Canucks are restricted to playing:

Team	Games	Points	Pts %
Tor	70	81	.579
Mtl	71	71	.500
Ott	71	62	.437
Wpg	71	80	.563
Edm	71	83	.585
Cal	70	79	.564
TOTAL/AVE	424	456	.538

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The mean pts% of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing=456/(424x2)=.538.
The results of the teams the Canucks are restricted to playing this year is worse than the mean of the league’s results.

I'm not going to analyze additions and subtractions, but on the face of it 420's point stands.

Correct. I thought I remembered differently. The question becomes whether a difference that small, assuming it carries over, is likely to produce a significant effect on teams playing that cohort.

 

[CanuckleBerry]

Would be all over targeting Scott Laughton this offseason as a 3rd line center if the price was $3M per year or less. Would provide twice the skill of Brandon Sutter and 20 times the sandpaper.

Would be an excellent pickup. But given the kind of season he's on pace for I think someone signs him for more than that, and decent term.

 

[brock hughes007]

Agreed with everything but the Gaudette bit. He’s not an nhl Center and isn’t good.

Would make a nice sweetener possibly to clear a salary.

You can acquire nhl caliber 3C’s for $1-2.5m easily in ufa these days.

not if your GM Benning,,he would find us another Brandon Sutter at 4 mill...
The plug needs to be pulled on this idiot,before any trades are made....

 

[sting101]

Would be all over targeting Scott Laughton this offseason as a 3rd line center if the price was $3M per year or less. Would provide twice the skill of Brandon Sutter and 20 times the sandpaper.

Hes my target as well.
Philly has depth at C so they push him out.
we'll see but would be happy with him or Wennberg.

 

[rypper]

Looking at Laughton's stat line from this year and years previous I can see that not only has he achieved an assist, but multiple assists, so that only makes me like him more than Sutter.

 

[bossram]

He would be a beauty defensive partner for Hughes.

Definitely a big fan of Pelech but he is also a lefty.

Apparently hes been sucking ass lately, is it the Buffalo syndroam or does just suck now? I dont trust Bennings pro scouting anyways so not sure how to feel about that

Montour has never really been good.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

One guy I'm intrigued by in Buffalo is Miller. If we can package one of our problem deals in return for him (Roussel/Beagle/Eriksson), that's a major upgrade on Benn/Hamonic on the right side for a really minimal relative cap hit.

Agree Montour is overrated, and the guy I really like on the Sabres blueline (Jokiharju) is probably untouchable.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

When the Canucks coaching staff finally got their hands on Juolevi, his development finally went on an upward trend. Should be noted for when we’re calling for everyone’s heads later

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Sutter had a fairly good game, to his credit if a team decides they need a guy to kill penalties he could a target
Only way we get value is it’s like the ol real estate market and a bidding war drives his return above asking price which I think is a 3rd round pick

 

[Fatass]

Sutter had a fairly good game, to his credit if a team decides they need a guy to kill penalties he could a target
Only way we get value is it’s like the ol real estate market and a bidding war drives his return above asking price which I think is a 3rd round pick

Likely have to retain some salary too. Doubtful Aquilini will do that. Want to see Sutter, Benn, and Pearson traded for picks for sure. Not only for the draft capital, but also to create space in the lineup for young guys to get opportunity and to be evaluated. Just don’t see Aquilini retaining salary, so we might have to take back salary to get the draft capital. Yes, we get draft capital, but lose out on getting room on the roster.
I see trades like: Sutter for a guy making similar coin (UFA) plus a second. Similar for the other guys too.

 

[brock hughes007]

Do you guys actually think that Jim Benning making any trade is going to help this team....It would be like stupidity trying to fix stuip...you end up with the same result.

 

[NoShowWilly]

Need to liquify Sutter, Pearson, Benn. Need to ask and try to liquify Edler. Picks, not prospects.

If they can get out from under Virtanen then do it.

Don't bring back more clutter for past this year. Use pieces in the offseason if you want to add. It is an expansion draft. There are teams right against the cap.

Lastly, a u25 forward on the market has some outstanding warts. Basically would have to be Virtanen or Gaudette out the other way. You are forcing your hand to protect a 'granlund' again.