Fantasy Draft R1 Voting

[Llamamoto]

Select 1 team from each matchup. Please analyze all aspects of each team in the matchups.

Matchup 1:



Brady Tkachuk - Connor McDavid - Kevin Labanc
Rudolfs Balcers - Tomas Hertl - Josh Bailey
Nick Foligno - Calle Jarnkrok - Warren Foegele
Max Jones - Ryan McLeod - Philipp Kurashev

Darnell Nurse - John Klingberg
Mike Reilly - Artyom Zub
Mikey Anderson - P.K Subban

Robin Lehner
Anthony Stolarz

vs



Z.Hyman - M.Scheifele - B. Boeser
R.Rakell - G.Vilardi - J.Silfverberg
B.McGinn - J. Staal - A. Lehkonen
S.Blais - N.Dowd - O.Sundqvist

J.Brodin - D.Doughty
M.Ferraro - P.Myers
J.Rathbone - D.Kukan

T. Jarry
C. DeSmith


Matchup 2:



Andrew Copp - Auston Matthews - Kevin Fiala
Jakub Vrana - Mikael Backlund - Dillon Dube
Dominik Kahun - Jared McCann - Jesper Fast
Tyler Motte - Derick Brassard - Jason Spezza

Thomas Chabot - Jacob Trouba
Jake McCabe - Kevin Shattenkirk
Jake Bean - Haydn Fleury

Connor Hellebuyck
Jaroslav Halak

vs



Trevor Zegras (0.93M) - Jack Eichel (10M) - William Nylander (6.96M)
Johnny Gaudreau (6.75M) - Ryan Johansen (8M) - Nils Hoglander (0.89M)
Michael Bunting (0.74M) - Barclay Goodrow (0.93M) - Yegor Sharangovich (0.78M)
Peyton Krebs (0.86M) - Blake Lizotte (0.93M) - Brett Connolly (3.5M)

Zach Werenski (5M) - Brian Dumoulin (4.1M)
Mark Giordano (6.75M) - Evan Bouchard (0.86M)
Rasmus Sandin (0.89M) - Alexandre Carrier (0.73M)

Jordan Binnington (4.4M)
Kevin Lankinen (0.8M)


Matchup 3:



Alex Killorn (4.45m) - Sean Couturier (4.33m) - Dominik Kubalik (3.70m)
Alex Newhook (910k) - David Krejci (7.25m) - Craig Smith (3.10m)
Brandon Tanev (3.50m) - Ryan Getzlaf (8.25m) - Corey Perry (750k)
Ross Colton (700k) - Tyler Johnson (5.00m) - Garnet Hathaway (1.50m)

Adam Pelech (1.60m) - Charlie McAvoy (4.9m)
Brayden McNabb (2.50m) - Jeff Petry (5.50m)
Nick Holden (1.70m) - Radko Gudas (2.50m)

Semyon Varlamov (5.00m)
Matiss Kivlenieks (730k)

vs



Nikolaj Ehlers - Sebastian Aho - Troy Terry
Evander Kane - Nick Schmaltz - Conor Garland
Mason Marchment - Alex Kerfoot - Marcus Foligno
Ryan Donato - Carl Soderberg - Wayne Simmonds

Mikhail Sergachev - Brett Pesce
Brady Skjei - Justin Faulk
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Dylan Coghlan

Chris Driedger
Frederik Andersen


Matchup 4:



Blake Coleman - Ryan O'Reilly - Brendan Gallagher
Clayton Keller - Nazem Kadri - Anthony Duclair
Jonathan Drouin - Colin White - Oliver Wahlstrom
Matt Calvert - Derek Ryan - Karson Kuhlman

Shea Theodore - Ryan Pulock
Noah Hanifin - Justin Holl
Markus Nutivaara - Justin Braun

Darcy Kuemper
Kaapo Kahkonen

vs



Filip Forsberg - Mathew Barzal - Viktor Arvidsson
Colin Blackwell - Sam Reinhart - David Perron
Kasperi Kapanen - Erik Haula - Jesse Puljujarvi
Tanner Jeannot - Derek Stepan - Josh Leivo

Travis Dermott - Aaron Ekblad
Dmitri Orlov - Nick Jensen
Jordan Oesterle - Trevor Van Riemsdyk

Thatcher Demko
Troy Grosenick


Matchup 5:



Kyle Palmieri - Mika Zibanejad - Mitch Marner
Max Domi - Brayden Schenn - Jordan Kyrou
Mattias Janmark - Nicolas Roy - Joonas Donskoi
William Carrier - Sean Kuraly - Ryan Carpenter

Quinn Hughes - Chris Tanev
Jeremy Lauzon - Neal Pionk
Logan Stanley - Justin Schultz

Tuukka Rask
Curtis McEhlinney

vs



Giroux (8.275M)---Barkov (5.9M)---Atkinson (5.875M)
Greenway (2.1M)---Pageau (5.0M)---Tarasenko (7.5M)
Laughton (2.3M)--Bozak (5M)--Moore (.775M)
Asplund (.845)---Grant (1.5M)---Aston-Reese (1M)

Lindgren (.925M)---Letang (7.25M)
Martinez (4.0M)---Clifton (1.0M)
Del Zotto (.700)---Poolman (.775M)

Nedeljkovic (.738M)
Reimer (3.4)


Matchup 6:



Alex Ovechkin - Patrice Bergeron - Jordan Eberle
Evgeni Dadonov - Jack Hughes - Alex Tuch
Conor Sheary - Adam Henrique - Joel Armia
Andreas Johnsson - Michael McLeod - Mathieu Perreault

Devon Toews - Matt Dumba
Jamie Oleksiak - Brandon Montour
Andy Greene - Sami Vatanen

Igor Shesterkin
Jonathan Bernier

vs



Bratt (2.75) - Point (6.75) - Rust (3.5)
Vatrano (2.6) - Pavelski (7.0) - Radulov (6.25)
Kiviranta (0.9) - Gourde (5.17) - Appleton (0.9)
Robinson (0.9) - F. Gaudreau (0.7) - Bemstrom (0.925)

Chychrun (4.6) - Weegar (3.25)
Grzelcyk (3.7) - Walker (2.65)
Kulak (1.85) - E. Johnson (6.00)

Swayman (0.925)
Allen (4.35)


Matchup 7:



Jake Guentzel - Nathan MacKinnon - Cole Caufield
Robby Fabbri - Christian Dvorak - Andrew Mangiapane
Paul Byron - Jesperi Kotkaniemi - JT Compher
Danton Heinen - Travis Zajac - Keegan Colesar

Ryan Graves - Jared Spurgeon
Mattias Ekholm - Dylan DeMelo
Victor Mete - Troy Stecher

Carey Price
Laurent Brossoit

vs



Marchand - Hintz - Wheeler
Lee - Stastny - Oshie
Paul - Bonino - Thompson
Deslauriers - Anderson-Dolan - Aube-Kubel

Dillon - Carlson
Soucy - Burns
Hutton - Bogosian

Campbell
Oettinger


Matchup 8:



Benn - Malkin - Laine
Schwartz - Monahan - Verhaeghe
Jenner - Eller - Kase
Barbashev - Lorentz - Acciari

Fowler - Parayko
Sanheim - C.Murphy
Bryson - K.Miller

Petersen
Hill

vs



Kirill Kaprizov - Phillip Danault - Mark Stone
Brandon Saad - Ryan Strome - Reilly Smith
Ryan Dzingel - Casey Mittelstadt - Josh Archibald
Cedric Paquette - Riley Nash - Ryan Reaves

Joel Edmundson - Seth Jones
Alex Edler - Erik Cernak
Erik Brännström - Jani Hakanpaa

Antti Raanta
Thomas Greiss​

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[hockeynorth]

Evander Kane would be Chicagos leading scorer

 

[Panda Bear]

Evander Kane would be Chicagos leading scorer

And your best defenceman would be Chicago's #3 at best.

 

[hockeynorth]

And your best defenceman would be Chicago's #3 at best.

you really underrated Niklas Hjalmarsson, he'd be AT LEAST their #2

 

[Peter Griffin]

We’re just happy to be here.

 

[Nucker101]

We’re just happy to be here.

Just like the real NHL

 

[Ainec]

Just like the real NHL

Thought he got Tyler Myers. Was a bottom 3 team. But turns out he got Phil Myers.

Shudder to think Tyler Myers in top 4 and Jarry as starting G

 

[McMozesmadness]

I'll do my argument for my team now. I built my team with only playoffs in mind.

To be honest, I was a bit surprised I won regular season by that much. My team only gets better in playoffs.



Experience:
107 - 39 - 9
8 - 156 - 62
32 - 88 - 128
15 - 108 - 18

45 - 65
63 - 41
54 - 26

57
0

1121 - Combined Playoff games

Offence:
This team is deep in all areas. I wanted to build down the middle and I think I accomplished that. Couturier (56.9%) is a high end two way C who's built for the playoffs, Krejci (54.2%) is one of the most consistent, two-way centres in the playoffs. Getzlaf (51.8%) may have taken a step back on a weak Ducks team, but on a playoff bound team with a shot at the Cup, you know he's showing up. Similar to Perry. Johnson (54.98%) as my 4C is a luxury he's overpaid, but a super effective player on the Bolts, playoff proven. My centres have size skill and a combined 54.4% on faceoffs. On the wings Killorn and Smith compliment my top C's perfectly, they bring consistency and pedigree. They contribute at both ends of the ice. Kubalik is my deadly scorer, who in a brief stint was deadly come playoffs. I think depending on matchup, he switches between lines 1 and 2. He's diverse in that he can play either wing. Newhook adds youthful energy and speed to the top six. My third line is a nightmare. Getzlaf and Perry have proven chemistry and add leadership and scoring depth. I wanted a motor for the old guys, not many better engines than Tanev, who also adds speed, grit and a PK option. 4th line is proven. Take the two best pieces from the Bolts 4th line and add a menace, physical presence in Hathaway. Teams hate playing him. I have leadership and veteran savvy throughout. Does this core score in bunches? No, but they will score and likely give up nothing. Also my forwards will be backed up by one of McAvoy or Petry at all times, adding to the offence.

Defence:
Top pair is my matchup pair and it's pure filth. Pelech is the Islanders best defenceman and was garnering Norris attention. Obviously, he doesn't provide offence, but an argument can be made that he is the best defensive defenceman in the NHL. McAvoy is a two-way stud. Undeniable top 5 defenceman in the NHL (maybe #1). Physical, high IQ, offence, defence. He's the perfect defenceman. I think he plays 25-27 mins a night for me. Second pair is better than most top pairs. Petry will log 25 mins on pair two, similar to McAvoy he's a #1 defenceman who can do it all. McNabb adds a physical, reliable presence. He is underrated. He's proven to be a stud in this years playoffs. Bottom pair doesn't need to hide. Gudas is a terrific defender and like McNabb adds a nasty physical presence. Holden is a reliable puck moving two way defender, who has proven he can handle minutes in the playoffs and sits 3rd in ES playoff scoring among defencemen. This defence doesn't need much explanation. Two #1's and a top pair D in Pelech. All three had Norris attention. McNabb and Gudas are nasty, maybe the two best open ice hitters in the NHL. Holden, reliable.

Goaltending:
Varlamov is an ace. Hard to argue with what he's done in this years playoffs. He'd look even better with this team in front of him. I don't see my team leaking many chances. Kivlenieks is my reach. I think internationally he's proven. NHL experience is limited. I'm a big believer in him.

Overall:
In these games it's hard to build a lineup with no holes. I feel like I'm close. I don't have a line I dislike or a player I dislike. I think this depth is unmatched. Veteran presence is unmatched. Defence, including forwards, is unmatched. Scoring issues are less prevalent come playoff time. Although I feel like this team won't have scoring issues.

Matchup:
Specific to the Carolina matchup. I think I'd play Kubalik on line two with a rotation on line one RW. I'd hard match Pelech and McAvoy vs the Aho-Ehlers pair and I'd staple Killorn and Couturier to them. I can see me winning that matchup easily, or at least making them useless. Line two with Petry and McNabb eats the Canes 2nd line alive. I'd take my 2nd pair over his top pair. My depth is too much for the Canes. Goaltending is an easy win for my Hawks. I do like the Canes, top six, but I think my team swarms this team.

 

[Panda Bear]

Did you just make a case using faceoff percentage instead of something genuinely useful like xG%?

 

[emptyNedder]

So I have to make some points that others are obviously missing. Based on hockey-reference, here are the top two lines for NYR and NYI based on average playoff performance (pro-rated to 82 games):

NYR
Palmieri (23g/14a)/Zib (13g/34a)/Marner (10g/51a)
Domi (0g/25a)/Schenn (15g/27a)/Kyrou (9g/0a)

Total top 6 playoff average: 70g/151a


NYI
Giroux (24g/46a)/Barkov (21g/51a)/Atkinson (23g/37a)
Greenway (10g/15a)/Pageau (26g/19a)/Tarasenko (36g/17a)

Total top 6 playoff average: 140g/180a


Even if you completely remove "broken" Tarasenko, the Islanders top 6 is significantly more productive based on actual playoff performance.

 

[Nucker101]

Thought he got Tyler Myers. Was a bottom 3 team. But turns out he got Phil Myers.

Shudder to think Tyler Myers in top 4 and Jarry as starting G

Sanheim carried PMyers this year

 

[McMozesmadness]

Did you just make a case using faceoff percentage instead of something genuinely useful like xG%?

My case was just faceoff %, yes. haha. Thanks Panda

It was a (small) part of my argument, and having the puck more than not having it is something I value. I think my team comes out well on xG. Especially that top pair and 2nd line (especially with Kubalik). I built my team with analytics in mind, but to me, eye test and fit come first. Analytically, I tend to gravitate towards HD chances for and against, zone exits, zone denials. Relative to teammates, I use line tools, ice time, team fit, and wowy, combined with my own subjective opinion. I'm not an analytic savant and I think it maybe takes up 30-40% of my view. That percentage has grown over the years. If a player does well on eye test and personal opinion, combined with a good analytical base. I likely have them super high.

 

[hockeynorth]

I'll do my argument for my team now. I built my team with only playoffs in mind.

To be honest, I was a bit surprised I won regular season by that much. My team only gets better in playoffs.



Experience:
107 - 39 - 9
8 - 156 - 62
32 - 88 - 128
15 - 108 - 18

45 - 65
63 - 41
54 - 26

57
0

1121 - Combined Playoff games

Offence:
This team is deep in all areas. I wanted to build down the middle and I think I accomplished that. Couturier (56.9%) is a high end two way C who's built for the playoffs, Krejci (54.2%) is one of the most consistent, two-way centres in the playoffs. Getzlaf (51.8%) may have taken a step back on a weak Ducks team, but on a playoff bound team with a shot at the Cup, you know he's showing up. Similar to Perry. Johnson (54.98%) as my 4C is a luxury he's overpaid, but a super effective player on the Bolts, playoff proven. My centres have size skill and a combined 54.4% on faceoffs. On the wings Killorn and Smith compliment my top C's perfectly, they bring consistency and pedigree. They contribute at both ends of the ice. Kubalik is my deadly scorer, who in a brief stint was deadly come playoffs. I think depending on matchup, he switches between lines 1 and 2. He's diverse in that he can play either wing. Newhook adds youthful energy and speed to the top six. My third line is a nightmare. Getzlaf and Perry have proven chemistry and add leadership and scoring depth. I wanted a motor for the old guys, not many better engines than Tanev, who also adds speed, grit and a PK option. 4th line is proven. Take the two best pieces from the Bolts 4th line and add a menace, physical presence in Hathaway. Teams hate playing him. I have leadership and veteran savvy throughout. Does this core score in bunches? No, but they will score and likely give up nothing. Also my forwards will be backed up by one of McAvoy or Petry at all times, adding to the offence.

Defence:
Top pair is my matchup pair and it's pure filth. Pelech is the Islanders best defenceman and was garnering Norris attention. Obviously, he doesn't provide offence, but an argument can be made that he is the best defensive defenceman in the NHL. McAvoy is a two-way stud. Undeniable top 5 defenceman in the NHL (maybe #1). Physical, high IQ, offence, defence. He's the perfect defenceman. I think he plays 25-27 mins a night for me. Second pair is better than most top pairs. Petry will log 25 mins on pair two, similar to McAvoy he's a #1 defenceman who can do it all. McNabb adds a physical, reliable presence. He is underrated. He's proven to be a stud in this years playoffs. Bottom pair doesn't need to hide. Gudas is a terrific defender and like McNabb adds a nasty physical presence. Holden is a reliable puck moving two way defender, who has proven he can handle minutes in the playoffs and sits 3rd in ES playoff scoring among defencemen. This defence doesn't need much explanation. Two #1's and a top pair D in Pelech. All three had Norris attention. McNabb and Gudas are nasty, maybe the two best open ice hitters in the NHL. Holden, reliable.

Goaltending:
Varlamov is an ace. Hard to argue with what he's done in this years playoffs. He'd look even better with this team in front of him. I don't see my team leaking many chances. Kivlenieks is my reach. I think internationally he's proven. NHL experience is limited. I'm a big believer in him.

Overall:
In these games it's hard to build a lineup with no holes. I feel like I'm close. I don't have a line I dislike or a player I dislike. I think this depth is unmatched. Veteran presence is unmatched. Defence, including forwards, is unmatched. Scoring issues are less prevalent come playoff time. Although I feel like this team won't have scoring issues.

Matchup:
Specific to the Carolina matchup. I think I'd play Kubalik on line two with a rotation on line one RW. I'd hard match Pelech and McAvoy vs the Aho-Ehlers pair and I'd staple Killorn and Couturier to them. I can see me winning that matchup easily, or at least making them useless. Line two with Petry and McNabb eats the Canes 2nd line alive. I'd take my 2nd pair over his top pair. My depth is too much for the Canes. Goaltending is an easy win for my Hawks. I do like the Canes, top six, but I think my team swarms this team.

Conor Garland and Evander Kane are not at all anything to scoff at especially with Schmaltz between them fine w the rest bc these don't usually make. difference for voting vet I don't think anyone has a group with L2 that'd beat mine, let alone eat it alive so that parts a bit weird.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Thought he got Tyler Myers. Was a bottom 3 team. But turns out he got Phil Myers.

Shudder to think Tyler Myers in top 4 and Jarry as starting G

I wouldn’t willingly take Tyler Myers.

 

[Nucker101]

I wouldn’t willingly take Tyler Myers.

I would love to see Benning's teams in one of these drafts

 

[Ainec]

I would love to see Benning's teams in one of these drafts

Dal Colle - Bennett - Wilson
Debrusk - Monahan - Reinhart
Drouin - Dubois - C.Glass
Motte - Sutter - Highmore

OEL - Doughty
M. Staal - Barrie
Gudbranson (rd) - Schenn

Bobrovsky
Demko

"We were hoping for Seth Jones with our 17th overall selection but happy to get Drew Doughty instead. Surprised he was still available at that spot. Very happy with our draft. I've learned from my past mistakes and I feel this is a strong team with heavy meat and potatoes type players who can also get dirty with some skills. Defensively, this team will be difficult to score against."

"I thought we were against the cap with Bobrovsky but was just notified we have enough money for Loui Eriksson instead of Highmore. Will talk to the league about waivers."

Add some uhh and uhms

 

[hockeynorth]

Dal Colle - Bennett - Wilson
Debrusk - Monahan - Reinhart
Drouin - Dubois - C.Glass
Motte - Sutter - Highmore

OEL - Doughty
M. Staal - Barrie
Gudbranson (rd) - Schenn

Bobrovsky
Demko

"We were hoping for Seth Jones with our 17th overall selection but happy to get Drew Doughty instead. Surprised he was still available at that spot. Very happy with our draft. I've learned from my past mistakes and I feel this is a strong team with heavy meat and potatoes type players who can also get dirty with some skills. Defensively, this team will be difficult to score against."

"I thought we were against the cap with Bobrovsky but was just notified we have enough money for Loui Eriksson instead of Highmore. Will talk to the league about waivers."

Add some uhh and uhms

hey, this team could definitely make the playoffs in the North!

 

[emptyNedder]

Top pair is my matchup pair and it's pure filth. Pelech is the Islanders best defenceman and was garnering Norris attention. Obviously, he doesn't provide offence, but an argument can be made that he is the best defensive defenceman in the NHL.

One of the reasons I voted for Chicago. But Lindgren was just as good this season. Both had ES 2.0 GA/60. Obviously the Islanders were a tougher team to score against at even strength, so Lindgren's number is, if anything, more impressive. Both were first men out on the PK. Lindgren had 3.7 GA/60, while Pelech had 8.2 GA/60. Lindgren is overshadowed by Fox, but in 20/21 he had a legitimate claim for best defensive defender.

Bottom line is that Lindgren/Letang is right there for "pure filth."

 

[Llamamoto]

One of the reasons I voted for Chicago. But Lindgren was just as good this season. Both had ES 2.0 GA/60. Obviously the Islanders were a tougher team to score against at even strength, so Lindgren's number is, if anything, more impressive. Both were first men out on the PK. Lindgren had 3.7 GA/60, while Pelech had 8.2 GA/60. Lindgren is overshadowed by Fox, but in 20/21 he had a legitimate claim for best defensive defender.

Bottom line is that Lindgren/Letang is right there for "pure filth."

Lindgren's definitely up there for one of the most underrated players in the league.

 

[McMozesmadness]

One of the reasons I voted for Chicago. But Lindgren was just as good this season. Both had ES 2.0 GA/60. Obviously the Islanders were a tougher team to score against at even strength, so Lindgren's number is, if anything, more impressive. Both were first men out on the PK. Lindgren had 3.7 GA/60, while Pelech had 8.2 GA/60. Lindgren is overshadowed by Fox, but in 20/21 he had a legitimate claim for best defensive defender.

Bottom line is that Lindgren/Letang is right there for "pure filth."

I liked the Lindgren pick a lot. He was my hope for the 2LD spot on my team. Happy to have McNabb, but Lindgren was the target. I like that he takes no shit too. Definitely a throwback defenceman. Also allows Fox to play rover more. That pair is amazing for how young they are.

 

[emptyNedder]

Lindgren's definitely up there for one of the most underrated players in the league.

I liked the Lindgren pick a lot. He was my hope for the 2LD spot on my team. Happy to have McNabb, but Lindgren was the target. I like that he takes no shit too. Definitely a throwback defenceman. Also allows Fox to play rover more. That pair is amazing for how young they are.

To be honest, I was disappointed in my D when I had Martinez/Letang as first pair. When I was able to get Lindgren, I thought the D--and the whole team for that matter--became really well balanced. It is a team that plays physical (8 players in top 110 in hits this season) and is excellent at killing penalties. The top-end talent is strong, and unmatched if Tarasenko is considered fully healthy. I like this team not just because I created it, but it has almost all the components of a great team to watch the whole way through the Cup finals.

 

[Joey Moss]

So I have to make some points that others are obviously missing. Based on hockey-reference, here are the top two lines for NYR and NYI based on average playoff performance (pro-rated to 82 games):

NYR
Palmieri (23g/14a)/Zib (13g/34a)/Marner (10g/51a)
Domi (0g/25a)/Schenn (15g/27a)/Kyrou (9g/0a)

Total top 6 playoff average: 70g/151a


NYI
Giroux (24g/46a)/Barkov (21g/51a)/Atkinson (23g/37a)
Greenway (10g/15a)/Pageau (26g/19a)/Tarasenko (36g/17a)

Total top 6 playoff average: 140g/180a


Even if you completely remove "broken" Tarasenko, the Islanders top 6 is significantly more productive based on actual playoff performance.

I don’t see why this would be relevant. An older group would obviously have better playoff averages if we’re talking about their career averages. A guy like Giroux for example was a playoff beast 10 years ago, but has had less productive post season numbers the last three seasons the Flyers made the playoffs. In reality we only care about this year.

 

[Llamamoto]

Round 2 Voting will be up by 10 pm ET.

 

[Joey Moss]

So we not using the main boards?

 

[Llamamoto]

So we not using the main boards?

Yeah no main boards.