Rumor: FA signings, Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread VI: Goaltending Options?
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AlowlyMcOilersfan
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Oh, I do think it would be an excellent move. I think it would be a 1a, 1b center situation with Krejci and Hopkins. It would leave Gagner as our third line center and gordon as the 4th. That would be incredible center depth. And having Boychuk would cement our D.
I actually don't think that would be enough to get Krejci.
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I never said he wasn't good. I said I'd rather keep Eberle. He wants to be here. We don't know that of Krejci. He might be the next Kovalchuk for all we know. (Not saying he is, just no one knows).
MCMIL OIL
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is our number one center. I don't see the use for Krejci with both Sam and NUGE. I don't see Edmonton doing this. If they did I`d likely scream into a pillow for hours on end.
Kepler 186f
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Krejci is a premier 2 way center and those are as rare as rocking horse poop. Eberle is a fine player but please.
This is all fantasy talk of course. IMO Chiarelli loves his "guys" and Krejci is one of those to him. Good contract for 2 more years and will probably look to lock him up long term as Krejci is certainly considered one of the Bruins core guys.
That being said if the Oilers ever dangled Eberle to the Bruins, he would be very hard to turn down.
That being said if the Oilers ever dangled Eberle to the Bruins, he would be very hard to turn down.
joestevens29
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I'd do it, but does PC really get rid of that center depth that has been so great for you guys?
MCMIL OIL
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Enter Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. I believe Krejci is a great 2 way player but NUGE will be better.
Bruins are deep at Centre with Spooner ready. Soderberg is also a natural centre. Bruins a little thin on the wing. Although very effective, Iginla isnt getting younger.
MCMIL OIL
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I totally agree with you. We got good enough prospects in on Defense, and this years draft isn`t as deep as years prior. I say we use it to make us better now.
joestevens29
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Spooner and Soderberg are very raw and unproven though. You start taking away top centers only to rely on guys that aren't ready is a disaster waiting to happen. You can pick up wingers year after year in a variety of ways, #1 centers not so much.
If I'm you guys I am waiting to move Krecji, you potentially move a guy like him for a top d-man once Chara slows down or retires.
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Wrong way of looking at it. 2 top notch 2-way centers would be an incredible asset. Which looks better?
Hall - RNH- Yakupov
Perron - Kecji - Hemsky/Gagner
Joensu - Gordon - Hemsky/Gagner
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Hall - RNH - Eberle
Perron - Gagner- Hemsky/Yakupov
Joensu - Gordon - Hemsky/Yakupov
That first line-up is as strong down the middle as any club in the league. In fact it is playoff caliber, today, not in the future but right now. And capable of a good run (unless Dubnyk continues to play the way he has in the first two games)
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Jejune
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All this panic button business after three games is ridiculous. Just as bad as three years ago when we started off hot and then went on losing streak after losing streak. Give the team 20 games and see how you're doing. Especially with new coach, new players, new systems.
Or we can send Eberle to the AHL again. That's option B
Or we can send Eberle to the AHL again. That's option B
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Read above. I NEVER SAID KREJCI IS BAD! I would rather keep Eberle! Is that a crime to say I like Eberle more than Krejci?!?!?!?
Yakupov for Seth Jones....
I love Yak, but he's underutilized here (PLAY HIM MORE!!!)... and Jones has a top pairing D written all over him. Nashville needs F>D.
With that being said, I don't know if Nashville would do that... they seem to love Jones, and Yak may not fit into their defensive schemes.
-But I doubt we could get a stud like Pietrangelo or Subban right now... but a future stud like Jones I think is possibly obtainable (or maybe Nashville would bite on moving Weber's big contract for JSchultz and Eberle).
-Otherwise just not many top D would be available... (please no Phaneuf, please no Phaneuf, please no Phaneuf).
-Maybe Yandle, but not sure what it'd take to get him. I really don't know if I'd be willing to package Eberle for Yandle... Yandle and Hanzal or Vermette for Eberle and NSchultz? Maybe a possibility there.
-Last option, maybe Winnipeg, they got Bogosian, Enstrom, Buff, and Trouba... they could likely part with one for some top 6 forward help. Enstrom for Hemsky? Buff or Bogosian for Eberle? Trouba for not sure (yak?)
I love Yak, but he's underutilized here (PLAY HIM MORE!!!)... and Jones has a top pairing D written all over him. Nashville needs F>D.
With that being said, I don't know if Nashville would do that... they seem to love Jones, and Yak may not fit into their defensive schemes.
-But I doubt we could get a stud like Pietrangelo or Subban right now... but a future stud like Jones I think is possibly obtainable (or maybe Nashville would bite on moving Weber's big contract for JSchultz and Eberle).
-Otherwise just not many top D would be available... (please no Phaneuf, please no Phaneuf, please no Phaneuf).
-Maybe Yandle, but not sure what it'd take to get him. I really don't know if I'd be willing to package Eberle for Yandle... Yandle and Hanzal or Vermette for Eberle and NSchultz? Maybe a possibility there.
-Last option, maybe Winnipeg, they got Bogosian, Enstrom, Buff, and Trouba... they could likely part with one for some top 6 forward help. Enstrom for Hemsky? Buff or Bogosian for Eberle? Trouba for not sure (yak?)
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Read above. I NEVER SAID KREJCI IS BAD! I would rather keep Eberle! Is that a crime to say I like Eberle more than Krejci?!?!?!?
No it isn't a crime. Krejci is a superior player at both ends of the rink though.
MCMIL OIL
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To be honest I`d take the second one. Hemsky has injury issues and Sam isn`t a natural winger. If we then acquired a big winger, than yes you are right looks great, but I see more sense in acquiring a centerman of less value and keeping Eberle (kid is a stud).
I'm not sure Boston would be willing to trade Krejc.
As for something based on a Krejc for Eberle swap... I do not know what to think, I'm torn.
-Eberle is the better offensive player and has the higher potential, and 4 years younger.
-Krejc is better defensively, plays a position that we need depth at, and had an AMAZING playoffs.
I'm actually pretty torn... I'd probably say no just because I'm not a fan of making a trade just to make a trade, I'd like it to be an upgrade for us. Now depending on what else (if anything) is added... I definitely could see myself tipping to the yes side of that swap.
As for something based on a Krejc for Eberle swap... I do not know what to think, I'm torn.
-Eberle is the better offensive player and has the higher potential, and 4 years younger.
-Krejc is better defensively, plays a position that we need depth at, and had an AMAZING playoffs.
I'm actually pretty torn... I'd probably say no just because I'm not a fan of making a trade just to make a trade, I'd like it to be an upgrade for us. Now depending on what else (if anything) is added... I definitely could see myself tipping to the yes side of that swap.
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And Boston isn't moving Krejci unless they are offered something ridiculous or he demands a trade out of town (or he gets caught diddling Chiarelli's wife)
BowDangles
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I'm on the bandwagon of trading the 1st rounder this year. If they truly believe that this is a playoff team than put your money where your mouth is and trade the 1st for help now.
With the history of this team that pick could hold some serious value right now early in the year. If Edmonton is right in the mix of things come trade deadline than it won't be worth as much.
I say package one of our young Dmen (Klefbom even if the deal is right) plus our 2014 1st and a prospect/salary dump for a legit top 4 dman.
The only way you have a conversation with another GM about our big guns is if someone like Petro/Doughty/Subban/Karlsson is coming the other way..
With the history of this team that pick could hold some serious value right now early in the year. If Edmonton is right in the mix of things come trade deadline than it won't be worth as much.
I say package one of our young Dmen (Klefbom even if the deal is right) plus our 2014 1st and a prospect/salary dump for a legit top 4 dman.
The only way you have a conversation with another GM about our big guns is if someone like Petro/Doughty/Subban/Karlsson is coming the other way..
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BowDangles
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Another thing is even though Capgeek says Edmonton has roughly 5 million is cap space. IIRC Jason Gregor had Scott Howson on his show last week and he said because of bonuses Edmonton really only has about 1.5mil in room.
So if they were to acquire a 4-6mil Dman they would need to be sending at least 2.5-4.5mil back the other way.
So if they were to acquire a 4-6mil Dman they would need to be sending at least 2.5-4.5mil back the other way.
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