F Julius Nattinen - JYP, Liiga (2015, 59th, ANA; released)

[Jersey Fan 12]

The rest of the team?

Definitely a possibility. And I'd imagine his age works in his favor. But 2nd round picks who have their contracts terminated after one season are rare. That generally takes quite a bit to get another shot (though players like Joonas Donskoi have eventually gotten second chances and been successful).

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Secondary assist here on a PP goal during the Channel One Cup this morning.

One-time NJ Devil Harri Pesonen creating traffic in front. Nice.

 

[barriers]

Hopefully nothing too serious



< Released with pain in the neck Nättinen was hospitalized for the necessary investigations >



edit: Update



< Julius Nättinen is still in hospital in Zug for tests, but for him he excluded fractures and concussion. More updates in the day, in all probability >

 

[barriers]

< Julius # Nättinen is out for about two weeks due to a cervical sprain. >

 

[barriers]

Expected to return this weekend

 

[Son of Petter]

33 goals and 22 assists in 54 Liiga games last year, 17 goals and 8 assists in 32 NLA games this year. Free agent this summer and has rejuvenated his game as a goal scoring winger, does he get an NHL contract?

 

[SAS]

I sure hope so. With the numbers he has put up, he deserves a shot. I would think Anaheim would be wise to consider him, amongst many other teams.

 

[SoundAndFury]

33 goals and 22 assists in 54 Liiga games last year, 17 goals and 8 assists in 32 NLA games this year. Free agent this summer and has rejuvenated his game as a goal scoring winger, does he get an NHL contract?

14+4 in 18 in December. So 3+4 in 15 afterward. I don't know, seems to me it would be in his best interests to stay in Europe for at least another year. When you score 14 in one half of the season and 3 in the next you probably aren't the dominant goalscorer you would like to be quite yet.

 

[barriers]

14+4 in 18 in December. So 3+4 in 15 afterward. I don't know, seems to me it would be in his best interests to stay in Europe for at least another year. When you score 14 in one half of the season and 3 in the next you probably aren't the dominant goalscorer you would like to be quite yet.

He's not restricted to an ELC though so if a NHL team with money to burn offers him a 1-way contract I'd think he would be wise to sign even if the odds are slim that he could crack the NHL roster.

 

[SoundAndFury]

He's not restricted to an ELC though so if a NHL team with money to burn offers him a 1-way contract I'd think he would be wise to sign even if the odds are slim that he could crack the NHL roster.

Ah, that is true. But I don't really think NHL teams would be interested in signing him on 1-way. Maybe though.

 

[Gliff]

Ah, that is true. But I don't really think NHL teams would be interested in signing him on 1-way. Maybe though.

If I'm Anaheim I would take a shot. They have nothing to lose and a ton of cap space.

 

[SoundAndFury]

If I'm Anaheim I would take a shot. They have nothing to lose and a ton of cap space.

If you have money to burn just get a better player.. Give someone like Okulov a signing bonus to his ELC, etc.

 

[Son of Petter]

His Liiga numbers the year before last were pretty great too though. He’s with a gamble imo.

14+4 in 18 in December. So 3+4 in 15 afterward. I don't know, seems to me it would be in his best interests to stay in Europe for at least another year. When you score 14 in one half of the season and 3 in the next you probably aren't the dominant goalscorer you would like to be quite yet.

 

[Hinterland]

14+4 in 18 in December. So 3+4 in 15 afterward. I don't know, seems to me it would be in his best interests to stay in Europe for at least another year. When you score 14 in one half of the season and 3 in the next you probably aren't the dominant goalscorer you would like to be quite yet.

I think it was injury related. So explainable. It's also not just his scoring. He's a big two way winger who can skate. Those players don't grow on trees.

 

[OKR]

If you have money to burn just get a better player.. Give someone like Okulov a signing bonus to his ELC, etc.

There are plenty of small-ish skilled winger/centers, big goal scorers are a rare breed, especially 24 year olds who have prior experience playing on smaller ice as well as dominating in European pro leagues, are able to play both center and wing and also have played bottom six roles.

 

[SoundAndFury]

There are plenty of small-ish skilled winger/centers, big goal scorers are a rare breed, especially 24 year olds who have prior experience playing on smaller ice as well as dominating in European pro leagues, are able to play both center and wing and also have played bottom six roles.

I mean I would agree if he was actually as good as some people in this thread seem to advertise. The only league he has dominated is Liiga which doesn't mean much these days, he was never a serious contender for a Finnish NT and his season in Switzerland was very much hot and cold.

And sure, size might be useful but you have to be good first, big second. There have been plenty of Jaskins, Sekacs, Plotnikovs or Petrovs before whose size turned out to be not a factor.

I'm not saying that's impossible, maybe some GM does indeed like him so much, but blowing a 1-way contract for a player with such a resume seems kinda crazy.

 

[Hinterland]

I mean I would agree if he was actually as good as some people in this thread seem to advertise. The only league he has dominated is Liiga which doesn't mean much these days, he was never a serious contender for a Finnish NT and his season in Switzerland was very much hot and cold.

And sure, size might be useful but you have to be good first, big second. There have been plenty of Jaskins, Sekacs, Plotnikovs or Petrovs before whose size turned out to be not a factor.

I'm not saying that's impossible, maybe some GM does indeed like him so much, but blowing a 1-way contract for a player with such a resume seems kinda crazy.

He dominated the NL until that nasty neck injury he suffered.

Regarding your names I don't even know which Petrov you mean...Sekac could probably still play in the NHL if he wanted to...he chose to leave. Plotnikov and Jaskin can't skate.

 

[OKR]

I mean I would agree if he was actually as good as some people in this thread seem to advertise. The only league he has dominated is Liiga which doesn't mean much these days, he was never a serious contender for a Finnish NT and his season in Switzerland was very much hot and cold.

And sure, size might be useful but you have to be good first, big second. There have been plenty of Jaskins, Sekacs, Plotnikovs or Petrovs before whose size turned out to be not a factor.

I'm not saying that's impossible, maybe some GM does indeed like him so much, but blowing a 1-way contract for a player with such a resume seems kinda crazy.

He played in Finland’s NT last season, scored 17 goals and 25 points in 36 games in NL, and was absolutely dominating before the injury.

For life of me i will not understand why someone comes on a hockey forum to talk about a player he quite clearly hasn’t even seen the player play...

 

[SoundAndFury]

For life of me i will not understand why someone comes on a hockey forum to talk about a player he quite clearly hasn’t even seen the player play...

Because talking about it on a forum is a way to get information on the player I haven't seen play? Not rocket science.

 

[OKR]

Because talking about it on a forum is a way to get information on the player I haven't seen play? Not rocket science.

”If you have money to burn just get a better player..”

”I mean I would agree if he was actually as good as some people in this thread seem to advertise”

You sure do have a strong opinion on his play for someone who hasn’t seen him play.

 

[SoundAndFury]

”If you have money to burn just get a better player..”

”I mean I would agree if he was actually as good as some people in this thread seem to advertise”

You sure do have a strong opinion on his play for someone who hasn’t seen him play.

Well, the first statement is true regardless, he definitely isn't the best player in the whole UFA market and the second isn't even giving an opinion, just expressing doubt which I think is perfectly reasonable when talking about an unproven player from Europe. I think such scepticism it's far more reasonable than being of the opinion he is some kind of sure thing worth a 1-way deal regardless of how many times have you seen him play.

I actually learned a few things during this conversation (like his injury and contract situations) while you seem to be upset over nothing, just because someone isn't fanboying over a certain player with you. For the life of me, I will not understand why someone comes to the discussion board with the expectation that people will blindly trust his opinion.

 

[OKR]

Well, the first statement is true regardless, he definitely isn't the best player in the whole UFA market and the second isn't even giving an opinion, just expressing doubt which I think is perfectly reasonable when talking about an unproven player from Europe. I think such scepticism it's far more reasonable than being of the opinion he is some kind of sure thing worth a 1-way deal regardless of how many times have you seen him play.

I actually learned a few things during this conversation (like his injury and contract situations) while you seem to be upset over nothing, just because someone isn't fanboying over a certain player with you. For the life of me, I will not understand why someone comes to the discussion board with the expectation that people will blindly trust his opinion.

So me saying you shouldn’t judge players ability or comment on players you’ve not seen play, is fanboying?

That’s idiotism at it’s finest.

 

[SoundAndFury]

So me saying you shouldn’t judge players ability or comment on players you’ve not seen play, is fanboying? No, that’s idiotism at it’s finest.

Fixed it for you. If you are really too thick to understand this whole prospect section mostly exists (especially when it comes to European prospects) so that people who don't see these guys play could talk to those who do, god help you.

 

[OKR]

Fixed it for you.

That.

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Heading to Växjö Lakers it seems

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