Speculation: Expansion Talk

[Frk It]

Let's get 2 new teams in the league and get rid of Howard and Ericsson this summer

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[Frk It]

Embedding tweets on my phone is a pain in the ass, but Dreger added most GM's feel 1 team will be added, which will be a team in Vegas.

So most likely, I think we see Howard go.

 

[BinCookin]

Means they are debating if 5 or 6 Forwards
or 3 or 4 D-men
and 1 Goalie would be the "protection list"

Our Protection List: (Short List)

G: Mrazek
D: Kronwall
D: Green
D: Dekeyser
F: Larkin
F: Nyquist
F: Tatar
F: Datsyuk
F: Zetterberg

Our Protection List: (Long List) (includes a 6th F and 4th D)
D: ???
F: ???

 

[Frk It]

Means they are debating if 5 or 6 Forwards
or 3 or 4 D-men
and 1 Goalie would be the "protection list"

Our Protection List: (Short List)

G: Mrazek
D: Kronwall
D: Green
D: Dekeyser
F: Larkin
F: Nyquist
F: Tatar
F: Datsyuk
F: Zetterberg

Our Protection List: (Long List) (includes a 6th F and 4th D)
D: ???
F: ???

First and second year NHL players will be exempt from expansion draft.

So no need to include Larkin, and not sure about Mrazek.

 

[Ezekial]

Since the draft would be 17-18, Larkin, Mantha, AA and Marchy aren't exempt right?

I was going to answer on the main page but wasn't sure of that aspect.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Howard is not likely to be selected. Why take Howard @ 5.3M if you're an expansion team when there are other mid range starting options making ~3.5M?

And they'd be likely to try to swipe Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, etc. since the Wings can't protect all of them. Hell, they might even take a guy like Glendening.

 

[Frk It]

Howard is not likely to be selected. Why take Howard @ 5.3M if you're an expansion team when there are other mid range starting options making ~3.5M?.

Because those options will likely be protected, whereas Howard won't?

I don't think there's even many teams in the league with 2 starting caliber goalies, much less 2 ones on good contracts. So I'm imagining any starting goalie with a good cap hit is easily protected.

Probably only overpaid starters and goalie prospects will be options, I imagine.

 

[odin1981]

Howard is not likely to be selected. Why take Howard @ 5.3M if you're an expansion team when there are other mid range starting options making ~3.5M?

And they'd be likely to try to swipe Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, etc. since the Wings can't protect all of them. Hell, they might even take a guy like Glendening.

Because there is a cap floor that they have to hit. Thats why.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Means they are debating if 5 or 6 Forwards
or 3 or 4 D-men
and 1 Goalie would be the "protection list"

Our Protection List: (Short List)

G: Mrazek
D: Kronwall
D: Green
D: Dekeyser
F: Larkin
F: Nyquist
F: Tatar
F: Datsyuk
F: Zetterberg

Our Protection List: (Long List) (includes a 6th F and 4th D)
D: ???
F: ???

First and second year NHL players will be exempt from expansion draft.

So no need to include Larkin, and not sure about Mrazek.

I believe it is first or second year PROS which includes the AHL, so we would need to protect Mantha.

 

[Frk It]

I believe it is first or second year PROS which includes the AHL, so we would need to protect Mantha.

Wow, not a fan of that at all....

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

F: Z, Dats, D-Boss, Mantha, AA, Nyquist/Tatar (Could see them protecting Gator too)

D: Kronwall, DD, Green

G: Mrazek


All and all this is dumb. If anything the NHL needs about 2-4 less teams not 2 more.

 

[TCNorthstars]

We also have to remember that this draft will likely happen after NEXT season. So, if we bring in a big item UFA this off-season, we will need to protect them too. Fortunately they will only be able to take 1 player from the team.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

F: Z, Dats, D-Boss, Mantha, AA, Nyquist/Tatar (Could see them protecting Gator too)

D: Kronwall, DD, Green

G: Mrazek


All and all this is dumb. If anything the NHL needs about 2-4 less teams not 2 more.

No need to include Larkin, Mantha and AA they're already exempt, If i'm not mistaken any player currently on their ELCs is automatically exempt i believe. If it's the 2017/18 expansion draft then most likely Datsyuk will be done retired most likely unless he plays for one more season in the new arena which could be possible.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Howard is not likely to be selected. Why take Howard @ 5.3M if you're an expansion team when there are other mid range starting options making ~3.5M?

And they'd be likely to try to swipe Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, etc. since the Wings can't protect all of them. Hell, they might even take a guy like Glendening.

Why wouldn't they take Howard, Expansion team still has to meet the cap floor and if taking on Howard's $5.3M salary helps them to meet that cap floor sure they would take him nothing wrong with $5.3M for 2 more years.

 

[Tatar]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the expansion draft were to be in 2017, that would mean any Wing or Griffin player playing now would be eligible to be drafted (2017 -2 year "pro")

Edit: never mind 3 year pros would be eligible meaning anyone who played pro in 2014

 

[TheMule93]

Here's hoping for two teams so we can unload Howard and the son of Eric

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Wings need 14 team expansion to get rid of all of their dead weight.

 

[Electric Eric]

Haven't seen to much info on NTCs and NMCs.

Gotta think with how prevalent NTCs are now they'll be exposed with NMCs being the only mandatory protect.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Because there is a cap floor that they have to hit. Thats why.

expansion team(s) have other ways to hit the cap floor. skaters are better option. only need 2 goalies so it would make sense to take the best option in terms of performance. hitting the cap floor should't be that hard anyway.

tampa has to choose between bishop/vasilevskiy. pittsburgh with fleury/murray.

it's a no brainer to take one of those guys, especially as fleury/bishop would also help them to reach cap floor.

of course it's possible that pitt and tampa trades one of their goalies and the new destinations protect them. possibly leaving howard as one of the best options.

 

[Electric Eric]

expansion team(s) have other ways to hit the cap floor. skaters are better option. only need 2 goalies so it would make sense to take the best option in terms of performance. hitting the cap floor should't be that hard anyway.

tampa has to choose between bishop/vasilevskiy. pittsburgh with fleury/murray.

it's a no brainer to take one of those guys, especially as fleury/bishop would also help them to reach cap floor.

of course it's possible that pitt and tampa trades one of their goalies and the new destinations protect them. possibly leaving howard as one of the best options.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an option that allowed to save 2 goalies. Even with that though there are plenty of decent and cheap goalies available. The goalie market is saturated and shows no signs of tightening up. Said it before but relying on the expansion draft to fix out cap issues is a terrible way to go about things.

There is the real possibility that Howard, Ericsson, or whoever on our team doesn't get picked.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Please just take our defenseman

 

[Classicnamesup]

Haven't seen to much info on NTCs and NMCs.

Gotta think with how prevalent NTCs are now they'll be exposed with NMCs being the only mandatory protect.

This is important, both Howard and Ericsson have NTCs. I would be surprised if the PA negotiated a waiver of every NTC in the league.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Wow, not a fan of that at all....

It seems to punish the AHL-centric development model pretty harshly. That sucks.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

No need to include Larkin, Mantha and AA they're already exempt, If i'm not mistaken any player currently on their ELCs is automatically exempt i believe. If it's the 2017/18 expansion draft then most likely Datsyuk will be done retired most likely unless he plays for one more season in the new arena which could be possible.

They have to be on year 1 or year 2 of their ELC, and that includes AHL time apparently. So Mantha shouldn't need to be protected, but some of the others might. Basically our entire AHL defensive group could go somewhere else.

 

[Mister Ed]

Haven't seen to much info on NTCs and NMCs.

Gotta think with how prevalent NTCs are now they'll be exposed with NMCs being the only mandatory protect.

The league has hinted Article 11.8, Section (c) of the CBA gives it reason to believe an NMC does not protect anyone from being selected by a potential Las Vegas or Quebec City franchise. That paragraph reads, “A no-move clause may prevent the involuntary relocation of a Player, whether by Trade, Loan or Waiver claim.†There’s nothing about expansion.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-getting-closer-expansion-answers/

Remains to be seen if an expansion claim is going to be perceived as a waiver claim.