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    6.7 M is really not all that bad if he is still performing at a top-4 D level. He will have 5 more years left on the contract and while he may not be my top choice as a top-4 D, I would consider him IF TBL adds some kind of sweetener. But I think we are better served getting a forward from TBL anyway.
    I don't know why you feel Palat does not have that many seasons left. Hey is only 29. I would be fine taking him but I would prefer Johnson because of the factors below:

    - Local boy
    - Signed for another 3 years (from when we draft him)
    - Lower cap hit than Palat (He is 1 year older though)

    Also, I am not sure where you are getting the bolded from? You think that TBL will give us draft picks and prospects for taking on Johnson? If yes, I think you are wrong. Johnson has positive value in the league. He is not a cap dump.
     
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    I wouldn't mind Vancouver re-signing Markström, while also keeping Demko, and most likely exposing Demko...
     
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    This assumes they don't trade him in the meantime.
     
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    I think Vancouver will offer Seattle a tonne to stay away from their 2 established 'tenders Markstrom and Demko...Juolevi,M DiPietro,Ferland(Van eating half his 3.5 contract)T Utunen and a 2nd rounder in 2021 and 3rd rounder in 2022!
     
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    Very soon Tampa will have to make decisions on players(Sergachev,Cernak,Cirelli...) who need to be signed to ever increasing deals...That's why Johnson's 5.0 M per year until 2023-24 looks to be traded,dumped,offered to Seattle with an added enticement!
     
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    There are lots of D-men available...Wennberg could be Seattle's 1st,2nd line centre...If I was Ronnie Francis I'd draft A Wennberg and hope he turns out to be the next William Karlsson!
     
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    I think we need to start looking at things with an open mind and not assume that the expansion draft is the only way to get rid of players. For example, a team like the Sharks would be more than happy to take on the likes of Tyler Johnson and give the Lightning a 2nd/3rd round pick. He is a player that produces and is at a decent cap hit. I am fairly certain there are other teams that would do the same. Heck, the Lightning could even retain 1M or so to make the deal even more attractive to other teams. Tampa Bay has been a solid destination for free agents. I can absolutely see them trade the likes of Johnson, etc. at the end of this post-season and then if required, sign some UFA's if they need to meet the numbers (7-3-1 or 4-4-1) for the expansion draft.

    Yes, there are going to be certain player who are more cap dumps (or bad contracts) like Lucic, Turris, etc. and the likes which need to get sweeteners for other teams to take on. Johnson is not one of them. If they want to McD on the other hand, we sure would want something added.
     
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    Best I could come up with today but will do again in December, although I am aware salary is a huge issue here but I think there will be trades laced to some of those big contracts, such as first round picks and/or prospects. We'll just say they have the Blues 2021 1st, Lightning 2021 1st and 3rd, Canucks 1st 2021 and 3rd, Montreal 2nd 2022, and San Jose 1st 2021/2022.

    I can also see Adam Brooks and Mason Appleton being the William Karlsson and Jonathan Marchessault version for the Kraken as those two were for the Golden Knights. Also, it'll depend on which are the top prospects are in 2021 and who their first pick(s) will be.

    I was also questioning Subban, but New Jersey might as well hold onto his brutal contract for one more year.

    I think this will be a solid team for what it is.
     
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    Shore won’t be re-signed. And trust me, you really don’t want Foligno. Murray is injury prone, but when healthy probably our second best Dman. Stenlund might be a good pickup though depending on your center depth, but he has not played C yet in the NHL.

    Also Jenner might not be protected when the time comes. Cheers.
     
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    You do realize Sanheim has no shot to be made available. If you want to say Ghost ok.
     
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    Say if Isles is somehow forced to resign RFA Barzal to 9M + per year for 3 to 5 years this fall, will your GM give up multiple 1st round/2nd rounds picks for him in the expansion draft the following year (all 1st rounder picks will not be subjected to lottery protection)? Barzal is from Vancouver and has played his junior years in Seattle and probably already has many local fans and friends. The advantage is that your team will have a real good chance to resign him to the long term when he turns UFA while you can use his RFA years to help your team to be at least somewhat competitive and exciting to watch. He will not resign in Vancouver as UFA because Canucks already have an elite center plus another real good one as their captain and need big money to resign Hughes, a top RHD, and a scoring winger and their future starter.

    Isles will only do this if they can't find extra cap space after next season and if Pageau and Nelson keep producing next season.

    Isles can also deal with your team after the expansion draft before the entry draft takes place. It make be a big shocking trade, but when a team is facing a serious cap crunch anything is possible.
     
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    Nope.
    At least I wouldn't.

    I really like Barzal but we're trying to built a team here and will need those picks to bring in young talent that either helps right away or can be groomed in our minor league setup.

    We also won't know how the team looks like and what is somewhat realistic(I doubt it will start out as well as Vegas given that teams have gone through the process four years ago while also having 2 1/2 years of time to prepare instead of just one year) with the squad we'll be able to put together.

    So I don't see it happen and actually think we should go the other way in trying to find a way to add more picks/talents even if it means taking on lesser players or bigger contracts.
     
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    If we were an established franchise which was already a playoff team and trying to take the next step, then sure. But being an expansion team that would make little sense for us. The value is probably there but we are not going to be 1 Center/Player away from making an SC run. The idea should be get cost controlled players in your first 2-3 drafts and then make additions via trade and FA.
     
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    mock Expansion draft list are pointless until after the Ufas of this summer are signed.I predict there will be a lot of player movement in the next 2-3 weeks. Once that dust settles it will some teams lists clearer.
     
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    I think Ghostisbehere will be a Seattle Kraken
     
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    Unfortunately, it looks like he will be moved this offseason. I wouldn't count on him being available if he's shipped somewhere else, he's been horribly handled in Philly and I believe he will prove it if given a fair shake elsewhere. Selfishly, I hope I'm wrong, as I would love to have him here.
     
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    I think Seattle is going to have a fantastic roster. With a flat cap, not only should there be a number of high end players available for no other reason than teams need to shed salary...but teams will probably be willing to throw draft picks on top just to get rid of them. They should hit the ground running with one helluva roster in addition to a pretty decent farm system and picks for days.
     
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    Tampa has so much talent, they can't protect everyone. Which means they will likely make a deal so they can keep the players they want. The player selected might not be TJ, but Tampa will definitely wind up paying.

    It's an expansion draft, it's not only about the value of the player selected, but also what other players the team has to leave unprotected.

    Edit: They're also trying to shed salary, and this is their only chance to get rid of players with NTC contracts.
     
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    The Canucks just signed Holtby to a two year contract which doesn't include a NMC.

    So him or Demko could be in play for us.
     
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    Vancouver is protecting demko. Holtby signing a contract like that screams Seattle in a year and i'll take him at 1 year 4.3m.
     
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    Yep, no way we have a shot at Demko now. Holtby’s interesting, and if he performs well in his first year under Ian Clarke then I imagine he’s both one of the better goalies who will be exposed and probably the best option Vancouver leaves unprotected.

    I know Covid was supposed to jam a lot of teams’ finances and cause disruptions that would work in Seattle’s favor, but I feel like a consequence of this may be Vancouver being unable to resign Markstrom. I was very much looking forward to either him or Demko coming to Seattle.
     
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    Its already came out saying Holtby will be exposed to seattle.

     
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    another possible expansion bait
     
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