Expansion draft thread

[Fistfullofbeer]

I just took a look at the goalie situation and who might be available for us.

Remember teams need to expose at least one goalie that is either a RFA in 2021 or signed for the 2021-22 season.

red = protected from selection
green = available for selection
black = UFA and neither available or protected

Team	Player	Salary	Contract	NMC
Anaheim	John Gibson	$ 6.4	2027(UFA)
	Anthony Stolarz	$750K	2021(UFA)
Arizona	Darcy Kuemper	$4.5	2022(UFA)
	Antii Raanta	$4.25	2021(UFA)
	Aden Hill	$800 K	2021(RFA)
Boston	Tuukka Rask	$7.0	2021(UFA)
	Jaroslav Halak	$2.25	2021(UFA)
	Daniel Vladar	$790K	2023(RFA)
	Callum Booth	$700K	2021(RFA)
Buffalo	Carter Hutton	$2.75	2021(UFA)
	Lunus Ullmark	$1.325	2020(RFA)
	Jonas Johansson	$700K	2021(RFA)
Calgary	Jakob Markström	$6.0	2026(UFA)	NMC
	David Rittich	$2.75	2021(UFA)
	Tyler Parsons	$735K	2021(RFA)
	Louis Domingue	$700K	2021(UFA)
Carolina	James Reimer	$3.4	2021(UFA)
	Petr Mrazek	$3.125	20201(UFA)
	Jeremy Helvig	$761K	2021(RFA)
	Alex Nedeljkovic	$737K	2021(RFA)
Chicago	Collin Delia	$1.0	2022(UFA)
	Malcolm Subban	$850K	2022(UFA)
	Kevin Lankinen	$800K	2022(UFA)
Colorado	Philipp Grubauer	$3.33	2021(UFA)
	Pavel Francouz	$2.0	2022(UFA)
	Hinter Miskau	$725K	2022(UFA)
Columbus	Joonas Korpisalo	$2.8	2022(UFA)
	Matiss Kivlenieks	$725K	2022(UFA)
Dallas	Ben Bishop	$4.916,666	2023(UFA)	NMC
	Anton Khubodin	$3.333.333	2023(UFA)
	Colton Point	$925K	2021(RFA)
Detroit	Thomas Greiss	$3.6	2022(UFA)
	Kaden Fulcher	$733K	2022(RFA)
Edmonton	Mikko Koskinen	$4.5	2022(UFA)
	Stuart Skinner	$784K	2021(RFA)
	Dylan Wells	$745K	2021(RFA)
Florida	Sergei Bobrovsky	$10	2026(UFA)
	Chris Driedger	$850K	2021(UFA)
	Philippe Desrosiers	$700K	2021(RFA)
Los Angeles	Jonathan Quick	$5.8	2023(UFA)
	Cal Pedersen	$858K	2022(UFA)
	Troy Grosenick	$700K	2021(UFA)
Minnesota	Cam Talbot	$3.667	2023(UFA)
	Alex Stalock	$785K	2022(UFA)
	Kaapo Kähkönen	$725K	2022(RFA)
Montreal	Carey Price	$10.5	2026(UFA)	NMC
	Jake Allen	$4.35	2023(UFA)
	Charlie Lindgren	$750K	2021(UFA)
	Michael McNiven	$700K	2021(RFA)
Nashville	Pekka Rinne	$5.0	2021(UFA)
	Juuse Saros	$1.5	2021(RFA)
	Connor Ingram	$733K	2023(RFA)
	Kasimir Kaskisuo	$700K	2021(UFA)
New Jersey	Corey Crawford	$3.9	2022(UFA)
	Evan Cormier	$718K	2021(RFA)
	Mackenzie Blackwood	697K	2020(RFA)
	Scott Wedgewood	$9700K	2021(UFA)
New York Islanders	Semyon Varlamov	$5.0	2023(UFA)
New York Rangers	Alexandar Georgiev	$2.425	2022(RFA)
	Keith Kinkaid	$825K	2022(UFA)
Ottawa	Matt Murray	$6.25	2024(UFA)
	Anders Nilsson	$2.6	2021(UFA)
	Filip Gustavson	$761K	2021(RFA)
	Joey Daccord	$750K	2023(RFA)
	Marcus Högberg	$700K	2021(RFA)
Philadelphia	Brian Elliott	$1.5	2021(UFA)
	Felix Sandsröm	$792K	2021(RFA)
	Carter Hart	$730K	2021(RFA)
	Alex Lyon	$700K	2021(UFA)
Pittsburgh	Tristan Jarry	$3.5	2023(UFA)
	Casey DeSmith	$1.25	2022(UFA)
	Maxime Legace	$700K	2021(UFA)
San Jose	Martin Jones	$5.75	2024(UFA)
	Devan Dubnyk	$4.33	2021(UFA)
	Josef Korenar	$723K	2021(RFA)
St. Louis	Jordan Binnington	$4.4	2021(UFA)
	Evan Fitzpatrick	$770K	2021(RFA)
	Ville Husso	$750K	2022(UFA)
	Jon Gillies	$700K	2021(UFA)
Tampa Bay	Andrei Vasilevsky	$9.5	2028(UFA)
	Curtis McElhinney	$1.3	2021(UFA)
	Spencer Martin	$700K	2021(RFA)
	Christopher Gibson	$700K	2021(UFA)
Toronto	Frederik Andersen	$5.0	2021(UFA)
	Jack Campbell	$1.65	2022(UFA)
	Aaron Dell	$800K	2021(UFA)
Vancouver	Braden Holtby	$4.3	2022(UFA)
	Thatcher Demko	$1.05	2021(RFA)
Washington	Henrick Lundqvist	$1.5	2021(UFA)
	Pheonix Copley	$1.1	2020(UFA)
	Ilya Samsonov	$925K	2021(RFA)
	Vitek Vanecek	$716K	2022(RFA)
	Zachary Fucale	$700K	2021(RFA)
Winnipeg	Connor Hellebuyck	$6.16	2024(UFA)
	Laurent Brossoit	$1.5	2021(UFA)
	Mikhail Berdin	$758K	2021(RFA)
	Eric Comrie	$700K	2021(RFA)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Ducks and the Islanders need to sign another goalie to expose for the expansion draft.
I also have Ullmark of the Sabres protected because he should be their #1 goalie and extended for a couple of years.


Veteran options:
Braden Holtby
Jack Campbell
Martin Jones
Casey DeSmith
Corey Crawford
Jake Allen
Cam Talbot/Alex Stalock
Jonathan Quick
Anton Khubodin

Looking at that list it surely depends on how those goalies are playing next season and of course on what else is available on their respective teams.

To me, Jake Allen(who's extension will pay him $2.85 mil a year), Jack Campbell and Casey DeSmtih could be solid 1B options.
Holtby and Talbot would need to show that they can be solid again or for another season, while Crawford would need to show he's healthy enough.
If not, Khubodin would be a solid option as well.

The one to stay away from, unless he has a really good bounce back season, would be Martin Jones of the Sharks.
He hasn't been good for some time and is still under contract until 2024 making $5.75 mil a year.

Younger players:
Aden Hill
Connor Ingram
Matiss Kivlinieks
Daniel Vladar
Marcus Högberg

To me we should take at least one of those.
Aden Hill has already shown some signs and as long as the Coyotes aren't able to trade Kuemper he could be a solid option even as an RFA.
Ingram is intriguing to me, but I've also heard some people being not as convinced on him.

Options in Free Agency:
Frederick Anderson
Philipp Grubauer
James Reimer
Petr Mrazek
David Rittich

If those guys are able in free agency Anderson would be the big name but I think Grubauer would be a really good pickup and shouldn't be that expensive.

Overall I don't see a Fleury situation like Vegas was able to capitalize from but still a couple of solid options or younger guys.


What would be your picks?

Good job with building out that list.

I would go with a Allen/DeSmith (one or both) in the expansion draft.

Potentially target one of Anderson, Mrazek or Reimer in free agency as well. I think we end up in a pretty solid 1A/1B situation and at a very acceptable cap as well.

Just load up on the BPA's in the expansion, we can always turn around and trade players from positions we have in surplus.

 

[Soundgarden]

Veteran options:
Braden Holtby
Jack Campbell
Martin Jones
Casey DeSmith
Corey Crawford
Jake Allen
Cam Talbot/Alex Stalock
Jonathan Quick
Anton Khubodin

Younger players:
Aden Hill
Connor Ingram
Matiss Kivlinieks
Daniel Vladar
Marcus Högberg

Ingram is intriguing to me, but I've also heard some people being not as convinced on him.

Options in Free Agency:
Frederick Anderson
Philipp Grubauer
James Reimer
Petr Mrazek
David Rittich

If those guys are able in free agency Anderson would be the big name but I think Grubauer would be a really good pickup and shouldn't be that expensive.

What would be your picks?

I think one of Cambell/Desmith/Allen/Khudubin plus two of Hill/Ingram/Vladar would be solid. IDK about a FA, but if they get the opportunity I'd say go for it.

Ingram, I think, definitely has what it takes to be a starter, he's already had two pretty good seasons in the AHL before coming to Milwaukee and being one of the best in the league last year.
He did have some red flags, he was a recent 3rd rounder who improved his reputation but got traded for a 7th over an "incident", it seems like everything has been going better in Milwaukee for him though.

 

[gstommylee]

Florida's goalie Bobrovsky has a NMC. NHL teams are required to protect 1 goalie so one of those two green labeled need to be red.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Florida's goalie Bobrovsky has a NMC. NHL teams are required to protect 1 goalie so one of those two green labeled need to be red.

Nope none of the Florida goalies needs to be red.

Teams need to expose at least one goalie who is either a 2021 RFA or under contract for at least the 2021-22 season.

With Bobrovsky being excempt and Driedger being an UFA, Desrosiers has to be exposed as he's their only goalie that meets those rules(he's an RFA in 2021).

The only other option for Florida would be to sign another goalie who meets the rules and could then be exposed.
Basically like the Rangers did with Keith Kinkaid so they wouldn't have to expose Georgiev.

 

[gstommylee]

Nope none of the Florida goalies needs to be red.

Teams need to expose at least one goalie who is either a 2021 RFA or under contract for at least the 2021-22 season.

With Bobrovsky being excempt and Driedger being an UFA, Desrosiers has to be exposed as he's their only goalie that meets those rules(he's an RFA in 2021).

The only other option for Florida would be to sign another goalie who meets the rules and could then be exposed.
Basically like the Rangers did with Keith Kinkaid so they wouldn't have to expose Georgiev.

Bleh screw up that sentence up i was talking about boston the list doesn't have any one being protected. Separate of Florida which Bobrovsky had a NMC

 

[Mal Reynolds]

I'd definitely take a run at some of the UFAs personally. I know Rask is a huge question mark at the moment, but if Boston is legitimately ready to move on, he'd give you guys an elite, albeit older, starter

Andersen/Grubauer/Raanta/etc would all be good options as well

Lots of time to go, and lots might change between now and the offseason

Definitely some of the 1a/1b types like Allen, Talbot, Khudobin/etc etc

I'd also look at some of the younger, unheralded guys ~ Husso, Ingram, even Stolarz will all have legitimate opportunities this year and you'll be able to make a lot more informed decisions there

Honestly, it'll come down to strategizing how best to maximize value from your picks... ie even if a goalie looks good, do you really want to pass on some of the other talent their team made available?

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Honestly, it'll come down to strategizing how best to maximize value from your picks... ie even if a goalie looks good, do you really want to pass on some of the other talent their team made available?

Like others have said before we should go BPA.

Though, we'll have to select at least three goalies and will need to make good decisions.
Especially since we need solid goaltending to have a shot at a good first season and maybe challenging for a playoff spot.

On top of that, most teams with less intriguing exposed talent also don't have much quality at the goalkeeper position to choose from as well.

 

[Colt55]

Way-too-early Roster prediction:

Killorn Wennberg Oshie
Perron Steel Donskoi
Dube Soderberg/Haula/Eakin Fischer
Wood Carpenter/Nosek Simmonds
Wagner

Gardiner Miller
Mete Mayfield
Kukan Clifton
Lindgren Hunt

Khudobin
young goalie

after trades

Should be under 70m & reach the 20 contract rule. Some players are going to have to be left on the table due to not having a contract for 2022.

Obviously a lot can change with UFA and even RFA deals in the offseason. I wouldn't be surprised to see some Deja Vu with Eakin, Haula and Nosek drafted from their new clubs because of A)familiarity with the expansion process and B)familiarity with each other. (A lot of the Golden Knights knowing each other before camp was a big part of their success IMO)

Blues will protect David perron.

 

[Kranix]

capfriendly has the exp draft simulator but the "Quick Protect" function seems to be broken. Anybody able to quick protect players for every team?

 

[RainyCityHockey]

capfriendly has the exp draft simulator but the "Quick Protect" function seems to be broken. Anybody able to quick protect players for every team?

It's not just that.
Last time around I tried an expansion draft(while doing the protections myself) it wouldn't show me the players I selected after clicking on "view team".

Seems like they've got some things to do updating the free agents before they can fix this as well.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Updated my goalie list at page #10.

I forgot Bobrovsky's NMC but no matter what they'll protect him anyways.

Though, the Maple Leafs have signed Mitchell Hutchinson to a two year deal worth $725K a year.
Therefore they're able to protect Jack Campbell(both Anderson and Dell are UFA in 2021), which means one less solid 1B option for us to choose from.

 

[jfc64]

There should be one good or promising player for ya from the Rangers especially.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Nice video by the Hockey Guy

 

[Byron Bitz]

Updated my goalie list at page #10.

I forgot Bobrovsky's NMC but no matter what they'll protect him anyways.

Though, the Maple Leafs have signed Mitchell Hutchinson to a two year deal worth $725K a year.
Therefore they're able to protect Jack Campbell(both Anderson and Dell are UFA in 2021), which means one less solid 1B option for us to choose from.

Will any good forwards from the Leafs be exposed? Hyman?

 

[LadyStanley]

LeBrun: Kraken already eying leverage in NHL expansion draft

Paywall. LeBrun with some thoughts on expansion draft, with some quotes from Francis.


2021 Expansion Draft
My thoughts/notes on Sharks exposure with expansion draft.

They currently have zero forwards (not named Couture, Hertl, Kane, Labanc or Meier) with the experience (TBD) and contract status to be exposed.

For the 2017 expansion draft, they explicitly signed two guys in such a way it was easy to see they'd be exposed. It could be just before camp the Sharks sign a body or few to be exposed in draft. Or they sign a few guys to extensions to be exposed (IMHO this will be how they go; part of it is determining who they want to keep around, if Seattle doesn't grab).

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Will any good forwards from the Leafs be exposed? Hyman?

Hyman will be a UFA next summer unless he signs an extension before that.

Though looking at Leafs forwards, I could see Kerfoot or Engvall being available next summer.

@LadyStanley
Yeah Burns could be in play next summer as long as you guys don't have a bounce back season.

Though, he'll be 36 by then with four more years of $8mil AAV.
I really like the guy, and he's taken care of himself really well, but that might cost you something extra for us to take that kind of money off your books.

 

[LadyStanley]

Though, he'll be 36 by then with four more years of $8mil AAV.
I really like the guy, and he's taken care of himself really well, but that might cost you something extra for us to take that kind of money off your books.

I don't anticipate the Sharks "paying" to have a player picked (unless they really want the cap space; I'm thinking less than 25% chance they sweeten the pot).

 

[Kranix]

I think if Francis plays his cards right Seattle could win the cup in year 1.

 

[themelkman]

LeBrun: Kraken already eying leverage in NHL expansion draft

Paywall. LeBrun with some thoughts on expansion draft, with some quotes from Francis.


2021 Expansion Draft
My thoughts/notes on Sharks exposure with expansion draft.

They currently have zero forwards (not named Couture, Hertl, Kane, Labanc or Meier) with the experience (TBD) and contract status to be exposed.

For the 2017 expansion draft, they explicitly signed two guys in such a way it was easy to see they'd be exposed. It could be just before camp the Sharks sign a body or few to be exposed in draft. Or they sign a few guys to extensions to be exposed (IMHO this will be how they go; part of it is determining who they want to keep around, if Seattle doesn't grab).

Im thinking either Sorenson if he sticks around, or maybe Sheary would fit that bill. Maybe the sharks want someone on a 2 year deal just to be exposed

 

[LadyStanley]

Im thinking either Sorenson if he sticks around, or maybe Sheary would fit that bill. Maybe the sharks want someone on a 2 year deal just to be exposed

Sheary isn't signed (by the Sharks) yet.

Sorenson has been a player fans love to hate/scapegoat. (But not as much as Suomela.) Nieto might be the other forward signed to an extension.

My guess is that 2020-21 season NHL experience will be 1/2 the season (so a 48 game season equates to 24 games played). So, seeing who comes in and plays will be important. I'm thinking that True and Donato may be protected.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

I don't anticipate the Sharks "paying" to have a player picked (unless they really want the cap space; I'm thinking less than 25% chance they sweeten the pot).

Completely understand that and I really like Burns.
He certainly will be able to contribute at a good rate during his contract but I have my doubts about the final year or two.

And those $8 mil AAV for each season could really limit what we could do during those seasons and is probably the only reason he might be made available by the Sharks.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Completely understand that and I really like Burns.
He certainly will be able to contribute at a good rate during his contract but I have my doubts about the final year or two.

And those $8 mil AAV for each season could really limit what we could do during those seasons and is probably the only reason he might be made available by the Sharks.

I am on the same page as @LadyStanley on Burns too. Burns contract is going to be an issue eventually but I don't expect that to happen for another 2+ years. If the Sharks are going to pay us for taking on a bad contract its going to be the like of Vlasic or Jones.

I am actually pretty relaxed about this draft. The flat cap has changed things tremendously and we will be in prime position to build a competitive team off the bat.

 

[LadyStanley]

@Fistfullofbeer - Vlasic has a NMC so would have to waive it to be exposed for expansion draft, or traded.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

@Fistfullofbeer - Vlasic has a NMC so would have to waive it to be exposed for expansion draft, or traded.

Right. I am aware of that. I just meant those are the 2 worst contracts on the Sharks and the only ones that the Sharks would be looking to get rid off even if it means they need to add.

Unless Merkley steps up significantly this year, Burns stays in San Jose. Even then, moving him is easier said than done with the flat cap. Either the Sharks retain or add a sweetener to move him. His contract runs through 40. I have always liked Burns as a Sharks fan but as a Kraken fan, I don't want that contract given his age.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

I am on the same page as @LadyStanley on Burns too. Burns contract is going to be an issue eventually but I don't expect that to happen for another 2+ years. If the Sharks are going to pay us for taking on a bad contract its going to be the like of Vlasic or Jones.

I completely agree with you and think Burns will be solid for the next couple of years.

Though, those final one or two years,, with a cap hit of $8 mil, is something I'd rather us staying away from unless they offer a sweetener.

But given the current situation the Sharks are in I doubt they're interested in moving prospects or picks as they seem to be more on a path to a rebuild/retool of their roster.

I am actually pretty relaxed about this draft. The flat cap has changed things tremendously and we will be in prime position to build a competitive team off the bat.

I'm both relaxed and excited.

Though, I doubt we'll be as good as some might believe given that you can clearly see teams having 2 1/2 years to prepare for this expansion draft(just looking at Cap Friendlys Seattle Expansion Draft) and most likely won't be as inclined to make deals just to protect some of those exposed players.

The flat cap should help us and I hope we can use that to add prospects and picks but that will be about teams trying to get rid of contracts and adding a sweetener.

Overall it should be interesting who might be willing to add something while unloading a contract to us and which teams(I expect between five to ten) will basically only leave scraps for us to choose from.

BTW: The Hockey Guy's started a series of expansion draft possibilities for each team.