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    Good job with building out that list.

    I would go with a Allen/DeSmith (one or both) in the expansion draft.

    Potentially target one of Anderson, Mrazek or Reimer in free agency as well. I think we end up in a pretty solid 1A/1B situation and at a very acceptable cap as well.

    Just load up on the BPA's in the expansion, we can always turn around and trade players from positions we have in surplus.
     
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    I think one of Cambell/Desmith/Allen/Khudubin plus two of Hill/Ingram/Vladar would be solid. IDK about a FA, but if they get the opportunity I'd say go for it.

    Ingram, I think, definitely has what it takes to be a starter, he's already had two pretty good seasons in the AHL before coming to Milwaukee and being one of the best in the league last year.
    He did have some red flags, he was a recent 3rd rounder who improved his reputation but got traded for a 7th over an "incident", it seems like everything has been going better in Milwaukee for him though.
     
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    Florida's goalie Bobrovsky has a NMC. NHL teams are required to protect 1 goalie so one of those two green labeled need to be red.
     
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    Nope none of the Florida goalies needs to be red.

    Teams need to expose at least one goalie who is either a 2021 RFA or under contract for at least the 2021-22 season.

    With Bobrovsky being excempt and Driedger being an UFA, Desrosiers has to be exposed as he's their only goalie that meets those rules(he's an RFA in 2021).

    The only other option for Florida would be to sign another goalie who meets the rules and could then be exposed.
    Basically like the Rangers did with Keith Kinkaid so they wouldn't have to expose Georgiev.
     
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    Bleh screw up that sentence up i was talking about boston the list doesn't have any one being protected. Separate of Florida which Bobrovsky had a NMC
     
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    I'd definitely take a run at some of the UFAs personally. I know Rask is a huge question mark at the moment, but if Boston is legitimately ready to move on, he'd give you guys an elite, albeit older, starter

    Andersen/Grubauer/Raanta/etc would all be good options as well

    Lots of time to go, and lots might change between now and the offseason

    Definitely some of the 1a/1b types like Allen, Talbot, Khudobin/etc etc

    I'd also look at some of the younger, unheralded guys ~ Husso, Ingram, even Stolarz will all have legitimate opportunities this year and you'll be able to make a lot more informed decisions there

    Honestly, it'll come down to strategizing how best to maximize value from your picks... ie even if a goalie looks good, do you really want to pass on some of the other talent their team made available?
     
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    Like others have said before we should go BPA.

    Though, we'll have to select at least three goalies and will need to make good decisions.
    Especially since we need solid goaltending to have a shot at a good first season and maybe challenging for a playoff spot.

    On top of that, most teams with less intriguing exposed talent also don't have much quality at the goalkeeper position to choose from as well.
     
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    Blues will protect David perron.
     
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    capfriendly has the exp draft simulator but the "Quick Protect" function seems to be broken. Anybody able to quick protect players for every team?
     
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    It's not just that.
    Last time around I tried an expansion draft(while doing the protections myself) it wouldn't show me the players I selected after clicking on "view team".

    Seems like they've got some things to do updating the free agents before they can fix this as well.
     
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    Updated my goalie list at page #10.

    I forgot Bobrovsky's NMC but no matter what they'll protect him anyways.

    Though, the Maple Leafs have signed Mitchell Hutchinson to a two year deal worth $725K a year.
    Therefore they're able to protect Jack Campbell(both Anderson and Dell are UFA in 2021), which means one less solid 1B option for us to choose from.
     
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    There should be one good or promising player for ya from the Rangers especially.
     
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    Nice video by the Hockey Guy

     
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    Will any good forwards from the Leafs be exposed? Hyman?
     
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    LeBrun: Kraken already eying leverage in NHL expansion draft

    Paywall. LeBrun with some thoughts on expansion draft, with some quotes from Francis.


    2021 Expansion Draft
    My thoughts/notes on Sharks exposure with expansion draft.

    They currently have zero forwards (not named Couture, Hertl, Kane, Labanc or Meier) with the experience (TBD) and contract status to be exposed.

    For the 2017 expansion draft, they explicitly signed two guys in such a way it was easy to see they'd be exposed. It could be just before camp the Sharks sign a body or few to be exposed in draft. Or they sign a few guys to extensions to be exposed (IMHO this will be how they go; part of it is determining who they want to keep around, if Seattle doesn't grab).
     
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    Hyman will be a UFA next summer unless he signs an extension before that.

    Though looking at Leafs forwards, I could see Kerfoot or Engvall being available next summer.

    @LadyStanley
    Yeah Burns could be in play next summer as long as you guys don't have a bounce back season.

    Though, he'll be 36 by then with four more years of $8mil AAV.
    I really like the guy, and he's taken care of himself really well, but that might cost you something extra for us to take that kind of money off your books.
     
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    I don't anticipate the Sharks "paying" to have a player picked (unless they really want the cap space; I'm thinking less than 25% chance they sweeten the pot).
     
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    I think if Francis plays his cards right Seattle could win the cup in year 1.
     
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    Im thinking either Sorenson if he sticks around, or maybe Sheary would fit that bill. Maybe the sharks want someone on a 2 year deal just to be exposed
     
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    Sheary isn't signed (by the Sharks) yet. :D

    Sorenson has been a player fans love to hate/scapegoat. :D (But not as much as Suomela.) Nieto might be the other forward signed to an extension.

    My guess is that 2020-21 season NHL experience will be 1/2 the season (so a 48 game season equates to 24 games played). So, seeing who comes in and plays will be important. I'm thinking that True and Donato may be protected.
     
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    Completely understand that and I really like Burns.
    He certainly will be able to contribute at a good rate during his contract but I have my doubts about the final year or two.

    And those $8 mil AAV for each season could really limit what we could do during those seasons and is probably the only reason he might be made available by the Sharks.
     
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    I am on the same page as @LadyStanley on Burns too. Burns contract is going to be an issue eventually but I don't expect that to happen for another 2+ years. If the Sharks are going to pay us for taking on a bad contract its going to be the like of Vlasic or Jones.

    I am actually pretty relaxed about this draft. The flat cap has changed things tremendously and we will be in prime position to build a competitive team off the bat.
     
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    @Fistfullofbeer - Vlasic has a NMC so would have to waive it to be exposed for expansion draft, or traded.
     
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    Right. I am aware of that. I just meant those are the 2 worst contracts on the Sharks and the only ones that the Sharks would be looking to get rid off even if it means they need to add.

    Unless Merkley steps up significantly this year, Burns stays in San Jose. Even then, moving him is easier said than done with the flat cap. Either the Sharks retain or add a sweetener to move him. His contract runs through 40. I have always liked Burns as a Sharks fan but as a Kraken fan, I don't want that contract given his age.
     
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    I completely agree with you and think Burns will be solid for the next couple of years.

    Though, those final one or two years,, with a cap hit of $8 mil, is something I'd rather us staying away from unless they offer a sweetener.

    But given the current situation the Sharks are in I doubt they're interested in moving prospects or picks as they seem to be more on a path to a rebuild/retool of their roster.

    I'm both relaxed and excited.

    Though, I doubt we'll be as good as some might believe given that you can clearly see teams having 2 1/2 years to prepare for this expansion draft(just looking at Cap Friendlys Seattle Expansion Draft) and most likely won't be as inclined to make deals just to protect some of those exposed players.

    The flat cap should help us and I hope we can use that to add prospects and picks but that will be about teams trying to get rid of contracts and adding a sweetener.

    Overall it should be interesting who might be willing to add something while unloading a contract to us and which teams(I expect between five to ten) will basically only leave scraps for us to choose from.

    BTW: The Hockey Guy's started a series of expansion draft possibilities for each team.


     
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