HF Habs: Expansion Draft 2021

[montreal]

No, Alzner is playing at a $650k level.

Also, I'm not saying he WILL drop to a $4M level, just that if he does, he should not be protected.

If MB is still here I wonder if he would do that. I mean how bad would the trade look if he trades Subban and all he gets is a couple seasons from Weber and then loses him to the expansion draft for nothing. The optics would be so bad for him, not sure he would do that. Although I would think and hope that Weber is still a very good player by then. The one thing i've been saying is we just have to wait and see how he looks as at his age and wear and tear we don't know how much the injuries will impact his already below average speed on a team that clearly wants to be fast.

Are we sure about 2020 for the Seattle expansion? Or it could be 2021?

nothing is official yet but they are shooting for June 2020.

You're right, I remembered it wrong. But it might be smart to do that, banking on the fact that it wouldn't be likely Seattle takes a UFA and convinces him to sign in the time before free agency. Then again, if he ends up being really good it'd be better for us to protect him, and we might have to make a trade with Seattle to ensure they don't take one of our guys who we have to expose.

yea having a guy as a UFA would be better since it's unlikely they would pick a UFA. I assume the Habs will make a few trades between now and the draft so I think they will be in good shape. Of course we'll need to see who does what over this season and next.

 

[Frank JT]

It's not clear for me. Which of these players would be open to protection or not in june 2020 for te expansion? Why?
Reilly? Mete? Kotkaniemi? Hudon? Juulsen?

 

[montreal]

It's not clear for me. Which of these players would be open to protection or not in june 2020 for te expansion? Why?
Reilly? Mete? Kotkaniemi? Hudon? Juulsen?

All but Kotka will need to be protected. If the expansion draft is in June 2020, only players that have played more then 2 pro seasons will need to be protected if they use the same rule as Vegas.

 

[Frank JT]

Price,
Reilly, Mete, Juulsen
Drouin, Domi, Gallagher, Lekhonen, Danault, Byron, Tatar

Petry trade at the 2019 deadline
Weber trade at the 2020 deadline or exposed

Fleury or Brook will take Weber's place in te 2020-2021 season.

 

[Natey]

Give them a 2nd to take Alzner lol

 

[montreal]

Give them a 2nd to take Alzner lol

would just buy him out before giving up a 2nd round pick.

 

[Natey]

would just buy him out before giving up a 2nd round pick.

I was joking. Although if we end up being competitive, that cap space becomes valuable.

 

[montreal]

it's official now.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Seattle will begin play in 2021-22.

 

[Lebowski]

Price,
Reilly, Mete, Juulsen
Drouin, Domi, Gallagher, Lekhonen, Danault, Byron, Tatar

Petry trade at the 2019 deadline
Weber trade at the 2020 deadline or exposed

Fleury or Brook will take Weber's place in te 2020-2021 season.

Weber will never be exposed unless he becomes an absolute boat anchor by that time, which is doubtful.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Will we need to protect Suzuki, Poehling, Brook, and Fleury?

 

[MasterMatt25]

Will we need to protect Suzuki, Poehling, Brook and Fleury?

If they play next season yes

 

[Frankc]

So I guess it now means that Kotka will also need to be protected but fortunately Poehling & Suzuki will be protected automaticly?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Danault and Tatar are ufa in 3 years, so they won't need to be protected. Poehling, Suzuki, Brook wont need to be protected.
So I guess we go will go with:

7 forwards:
Gally, Drouin, Domi, Kotkaniemi, Armia, Hudon, Lehkonen

Not protected: Byron (should trade him since he will have 1 year left), Shaw, Evans

3 Defenseman:
Weber, Mete, Juulsen

Not protected: Fleury, Reilly

Goalie:
Price

 

[Agalloch]

So I guess it now means that Kotka will also need to be protected but fortunately Poehling & Suzuki will be protected automaticly?

2 pro seasons and less don't need to be protected.

So Suzuki and Poehling will need to be protected.

 

[26Mats]

If they play next season yes

That should weigh heavily in our decision to play them or not. We can stand to lose an Armia or lehkonen, but not a real offensive gem.

 

[Agalloch]

That should weigh heavily in our decision to play them or not. We can stand to lose an Armia or lehkonen, but not a real offensive gem.

If they play Pro. They will play pro anyway.

 

[26Mats]

Danault and Tatar are ufa in 3 years, so they won't need to be protected.
So I guess we go will go with:

7 forwards:
Gally, Drouin, Domi, Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Suzuki, Lehkonen

Not protected: Byron (should trade him since he will have 1 year left), Shaw, Armia, Hudon

3 Defenseman:
Weber, and 2 of Juulsen/Mete/Brook/Fleury

This one will be hard. Could lose 1 of those D.

Goalie:
Price

I have no idea how effective Weber will be in 3 years at 36. It's pretty much impossible to predict. Some are really good into their mid to late 30s (Giordano). Some fade fast (Duncan Keith, Seabrook). With the league getting faster, it's harder and harder to be good after 35.

 

[The Great Weal]

Danault and Tatar are ufa in 3 years, so they won't need to be protected.
So I guess we go will go with:

7 forwards:
Gally, Drouin, Domi, Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Suzuki, Lehkonen

Not protected: Byron (should trade him since he will have 1 year left), Shaw, Armia, Hudon

3 Defenseman:
Weber, and 2 of Juulsen/Mete/Brook/Fleury

This one will be hard. Could lose 1 of those D.

Goalie:
Price

Well one of Weber, Juulsen, Brook, Fleury would get traded either way. I think Mete is the odd man out. Hopefully we trade him earlier and not wait last second like Beaulieu.

 

[26Mats]

If they play Pro. They will play pro anyway.

Poehling can have one more year of college though, no? Although that's risking losing him the following summer as he could wait until august and sign with any team of his choosing.

 

[Agalloch]

Petry and Price have NMC.

Both would need to be protected.

I expect Petry to be traded in the next 2 years....

Poehling can have one more year of college though, no? Although that's risking losing him the following summer as he could wait until august and sign with any team of his choosing.

I don't see him playing another year in college.

I'm wrong. Brook, Poehling & Suzuki will have 2 pro-seasons so he doesn't need to be protected in 2021. It's when a player has played a 3rd season.

 

[26Mats]

Well one of Weber, Juulsen, Brook, Fleury would get traded either way. I think Mete is the odd man out. Hopefully we trade him earlier and not wait last second like Beaulieu.

People don't realize how lucky we were this past expansion draft. We basically lost Beaulieu and Emelin, and got back a 3rd. Beaulieu could turn out to be a decent bottom pairing NHLer. Emelin was no longer a decent bottom pairing NHLer.

Other teams lost far more, and I expect to lose far more next draft. A team like us that is more deep than top heavy should logically lose a good player. I would like it to be a Lehkonen or some other limited offensive player more than a top 4 dman.

 

[Yoshidas Island]

Petry and Price have NMC.

Both would need to be protected.

I expect Petry to be traded in the next 2 years....



I don't see him playing another year in college.

I'm wrong. Brook, Poehling & Suzuki will have 2 pro-seasons so he doesn't need to be protected in 2021. It's when a player has played a 3rd season.

Petry's contract will be over by the time this expansion draft will be around.

 

[groovejuice]

I thought it was for 2020-21 season ?

I expect Drouin, Lehkonen, Kotkaniemi, Domi, Byron, Danault, Gallagher

On D, Weber, Mete and Juulsen.

G. Price.

EDIT : forgot Gallagher.. I forgot Petry has a NMC. I would trade him before that.

Petry's NMC is now modified. Starting 2018-19, lists 15 teams he can not be traded to.