HF Habs: Expansion Draft 2021 (Part 2)
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After tonight’s game Evans is going to be on it. Also, chances are higher Danault does not resign.
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My top 5 forwards are: kk, Toffoli, Gallagher, Anderson, and Evan's.
We can add 2 forwards to that group. I'd add a re-signed Danault and Tatar over the field.
Plus, Suzuki and Caufield don't need to be protected.
So we would only lose a Lehkonen, Armia, or Byron. I'm fine with that.
Unless Danault, Tuna, and Armia (all 3 UFAs) are resigned as soon as the offseason begins, I'd leave all 3 unprotected...
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Seattle would then have an exclusive negotiation window with them. I bet MB signs Danault before then, or else he lets him go to the open market. Not sure they do a wink wink. If they try that, Seattle has a window where they can talk to him exclusively. I could see them offering more than whatever he agreed on with MB in the wink wink agreement, and him bolting for Seattle. If MB is going to re-sign him, better to do so before the expansion draft.
If MB doesn't plan on rebuilding and plans on competing for the playoffs, Tatar needs to be replaced with an offensive player if he walks. But MB may not know that. He is the one who let Radulov walk and then signed Hemsky.
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Barginbin will make the mistake to give the golden bridge to Danault just waiting for his 2 points in 6 games in the playoff.
Also who cares with the exclusive windows. There are several ufas. Perhaps Seattle want to overpay him , then Danault should go for the money because if someone overpay him so then be it. We can live with Evans being our next defensive center.
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They need to make two forwards available who are under contract for 2021-22 and have played quite a few NHL games over the past year or two. Your list would only provide Byron as that type of player. Drouin should not be protected, and would fulfill the forward requirement along with Byron.
At forward, protect KK, Toffoli, Gallagher, Anderson, Evans and two of the UFAs/RFA -- Danault, Tatar, Armia and/or Lehkonen.
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Weber is 100% being protected and its not even debatable. Its crazy talk to think Bergevin would be willing to give away Weber or Price to Seattle for free. He loves Weber, and Weber is a big part of the team. Weber's contract is also not as bad as it seems. After 2 years, if Weber doesnt retire, then the habs and Weber could agree to mutually terminate his contract and give him a new one. A contract in which he is paid more than 1 M per year, but does not have the 7.8 M cap hit.
They had all summer and reg season to re-sign Danault, and it did not happen. I doubt it happens before the expansion draft considering its not that far away. Danault will probably become a ufa and see whats out there.
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He should be protected. But with the Marx Brothers running this team, what should, does not necessarily mean will.
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Why?
Those 2 don't need to be on the list, no way they will get picked. Thats 2 wasted spots.
Expose Weber, Drouin and Byron. Re-sign Tuna and Lek. Forwards to protect: KK, Evans, Toffoli, Anderson, Tatar, Gallagher (NMC) and Lek (re-signed). KK also needs to be re-signed. Suzuki and Caufield do not need to be protected. Danault, Armia, Perry and Staal sign elsewhere. However, Perry would be a player that I would try to keep after the draft if he is still available.
On defense: Chiarot, Edmundson, Petry are to be protected. Romanov doesn't need to be exposed. Merrill, Gustafson, Ouellet and Kulak can all be thanked for their valuable services.
On G: Allen will be left exposed.
That basically leaves Weber, Byron, Drouin, Allen and Kulak exposed. No big losses if anyone of them is claimed and will bring much needed cap relief.
UFAs: Danault, Armia, Merrill, Gustafson, Staal, Weal, Perry, Belzile, Frolik, Baddock, Vejdemo, Dauphin, Demchenko, Olofsson and Lindgren. I doubt any one of them are back except for Perry. The BargainBin special and so much to be said about depth. With core pieces Danault, Tatar and Armia walking or potentially losing Drouin, Byron or Lek, a reconstruction is more than imminent.
On defense: Chiarot, Edmundson, Petry are to be protected. Romanov doesn't need to be exposed. Merrill, Gustafson, Ouellet and Kulak can all be thanked for their valuable services.
On G: Allen will be left exposed.
That basically leaves Weber, Byron, Drouin, Allen and Kulak exposed. No big losses if anyone of them is claimed and will bring much needed cap relief.
UFAs: Danault, Armia, Merrill, Gustafson, Staal, Weal, Perry, Belzile, Frolik, Baddock, Vejdemo, Dauphin, Demchenko, Olofsson and Lindgren. I doubt any one of them are back except for Perry. The BargainBin special and so much to be said about depth. With core pieces Danault, Tatar and Armia walking or potentially losing Drouin, Byron or Lek, a reconstruction is more than imminent.
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Are we the only team in the league with one sure fire D to protect? Can we get assets to protect other teams D and then trade them back to them?
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No but we can acquire a defenseman they can't protect for cheap rather than having them pay Seattle to protect their players.
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There is no guarantee that Perry wants to come back. But there is no need to protect Drouin. It's highly unlikely that Seattle would select him, but it would be a good thing both for the Habs and Drouin if they did.
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you can't mutually terminate and then sign a new contract with the same team to get the cap hit down. That would be salary cap circumvention...
Weber hasn't been playing close to being worth 7.8M on thg he csp. No doubt MB loves Weber. But Weber's declining. MB can't keep him forever. The question is not if we'll part ways with Wever, but when. I would do it this summer if there was an opportunity to. But for sure MB may not see it that way.
Note, at the beginning of the season MB put Perry on waivers to not expose Byron. Then, into the season, it was the reverse. Things change depending on performance on the ice.
Anyways I highly doubt Seattle would claim Weber. He's too much of a cap hit. They should have better options to use their cap space to take on salary for 1sts and 2nds. They can better use their cap space. I think MB is smart enough to see this.
We may see soon if Weber's poor play this season was due to playing injured. If he heals and plays like the old Weber, that changes everything.
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Yeah I'm half trying to predict what MB is thinking, more than what I would do. Those are two different things.
MB knows if Danault walks that's jeopardizing being competitive to make the playoffs next year. And I'm pretty sure MB wants to make the playoffs. He offered Phil 5M for 5 years, if the rumors are true. So he values Phil a lot. Did that change after this season? Now that we really see the squeeze the flat cap put on? We'll find out within the next 2 months.
This tool lets you play around with the roster for the expansion draft
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It's actually difficult to meet the requirements for who I would protect
It's not a very long list of players...
Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
It's actually difficult to meet the requirements for who I would protect
It's not a very long list of players...
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If Bergevin is the GM, he will protect Weber. If he is not, I can see the new guy not protecting Weber.
Danault vs Drouin. I support exposing Drouin even though I am a fan and holding onto hope he can mature
I know Weber has been an anchor as of late, and especially this season, but let’s just be logical here; ZERO chance Weber is exposed. I mean, I suppose it can happen but all these years about character, the locker room environment, the so called class of the organization would be shit canned immediately if Weber was exposed. This team and Bergevin specifically loves Weber too much. Perhaps if Weber asks to be exposed, that’s different but no way otherwise we are not protecting Weber.
Drouin is done though. The kid isn’t even skating right now and assuming again that it’s the pressures and mental wellness issues related to playing in Montreal, the team would be doing him a favour by exposing him.
Drouin is done though. The kid isn’t even skating right now and assuming again that it’s the pressures and mental wellness issues related to playing in Montreal, the team would be doing him a favour by exposing him.
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