OT: Everything COVID19 - PART 5
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coladin
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They will continue to climb for the next 4-5 days, and then hopefully we will see the difference when we started the second wave. I think people are gearing up for the second wave, and I hope we will see the renewed commitment of people starting Sunday.
They are testing three times more than May, the previous high, so the more people getting tested and in isolation, might ultimately be a good thing as more people are affected and cognisant.
1 million people can follow all the rules, but you can have 90 positives a day from 10K anti-maskers, easily. It doesn't take much.
They are testing three times more than May, the previous high, so the more people getting tested and in isolation, might ultimately be a good thing as more people are affected and cognisant.
1 million people can follow all the rules, but you can have 90 positives a day from 10K anti-maskers, easily. It doesn't take much.
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Doesn't take much for a school to send a kid home and not allow them back until they have a negative test. Upset tummy? Call the parents to bring them for a test.
Good news is they are now doing appointments at brewers park, so people shouldn't be waiting more than about 1h30 to 2 h for the test.
So... When I came back from the States and felt absolutely great I couldn’t get a test and return to work for 2 weeks because apparently it can be a false negative. But if I literally have symptoms and get a test and it’s negative then I can return back to work?
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Time for a little rant just cuz I’ve been holding it in. I just really don’t understand some of this stuff involving the States. I feel they are being completely ridiculous about this.
For starters: What I mentioned in my post above. Let me go to the states and get a damn test the moment I get back and be fine to go back to work once I test negative. None of this “well it could be a false negative” bs. Saves the time off work and literally saves the government $ for paying me to stay home. And yes, EI pays you for quarantine from returning from the States.
2: Why is it ok for us to fly down anywhere in the States while being around others, but we literally can’t cross the boarder alone in our own car. You would have much less risk of contamination
3: Americans not being able to come. I know most of you won’t give a shit about this in general. But why is it fine for me to go over and visit, but my gf can’t come back and quarantine with me. It’s not like our ICU’s are anywhere near clogged. If they are then by all means! Do everything you can to make people avoid contamination. But at this stage I think it’s ridiculous that the border is still closed. As long as you are 100% able to provide proof that you have a place to quarantine for 2 weeks and provide a reason to visit besides tourism you should be allowed in (and a temp check).
I understand we are trying to keep Canadians safe but come on. How long are we realistically going to be like this for? By all means make us keep wearing masks for a while for all I care. It’s a pretty easy thing to do. But stuff needs to loosen up. Again I know most of you won’t give a shit because majority of you probably don’t have anything at all to do with the states. Some of you may even think I’m an idiot now. But whatever, this shit is starting to annoy me.
For starters: What I mentioned in my post above. Let me go to the states and get a damn test the moment I get back and be fine to go back to work once I test negative. None of this “well it could be a false negative” bs. Saves the time off work and literally saves the government $ for paying me to stay home. And yes, EI pays you for quarantine from returning from the States.
2: Why is it ok for us to fly down anywhere in the States while being around others, but we literally can’t cross the boarder alone in our own car. You would have much less risk of contamination
3: Americans not being able to come. I know most of you won’t give a shit about this in general. But why is it fine for me to go over and visit, but my gf can’t come back and quarantine with me. It’s not like our ICU’s are anywhere near clogged. If they are then by all means! Do everything you can to make people avoid contamination. But at this stage I think it’s ridiculous that the border is still closed. As long as you are 100% able to provide proof that you have a place to quarantine for 2 weeks and provide a reason to visit besides tourism you should be allowed in (and a temp check).
I understand we are trying to keep Canadians safe but come on. How long are we realistically going to be like this for? By all means make us keep wearing masks for a while for all I care. It’s a pretty easy thing to do. But stuff needs to loosen up. Again I know most of you won’t give a shit because majority of you probably don’t have anything at all to do with the states. Some of you may even think I’m an idiot now. But whatever, this shit is starting to annoy me.
What am I wrong? Does it not sound a slight bit ridiculous?
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I went to get my kid tested (it was negative) and because my phone was low on batteries turned off bluetioth and wifi so she could play games on it for longer. It got me thinking that the contact tracing app probably would get tripped at a higher drequency for those of us who go to a testing center and could create a cycle given that it doesn't track location data so id have no way of knowing. That said, i probably should get tested if i were to get a hit off a contact at a testing facility even if i got a negitive result back from that vist, because any infection resulting from that contact would take a few days to be detectable...
And I’m fine with that. Since one of the apparent reasons is because it can be a false negative. I find that iffy but hey whatever.
But then it makes absolutely no sense for someone who literally has COVID symptoms to not have to quarantine if it’s a negative. That’s just getting ridiculous.
1. When you come back you may still be in incubation stage therefore the 14 day isolation. You may test negative during the incubation period and then be contagious later. 10 days would be more realistic.
2. We don’t control access to the US border, this is their decision. We only control re entry and rules upon return. The government can only issue travel advisories.
3. Same situation as 2. We control foreign access to our borders and don’t allow non essential access to our country. If our government could control the US border they would deny travel to the US by Canadians.
If you have symptoms then you are past incubation so the negative test would confirm no COVID-19.
Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Now that would be something if they could spread the vaccine the same way as the virus. I wonder if the anti-maskers would suddenly change sides.
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I think thw whole idea is that you don't get the option to accept it pr not...
Lots of ethical questions and legal liability issues to sort through if they ever were to succeed in creating such a thing.
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It will take time but like all things they want people to accept, the more they repeated the more people will demand it.
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So the White House Task Force partnered with USPS, then canned the decision. Yeah, I can see why they might have chosen not to follow through. Tough call.
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Viral load refers to how much you are exposed to when you contract the disease. Wearing a mask will reduce that load. Catching it from a person while they wear a mask will reduce it further.
Your last statement is very important. Early on, only the really sick were counted as cases. Now we test far more and are finding people with mild symptoms. "Cases" in the spring are different than "cases" now, but they appear as the exact same thing on commonly used graphs.
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