Every Flyers 1st rounder from the 2010s is still with the team

[PDX Flyer]

It is asinine for people to correlate the draft picks to the performance of the NHL at that time. Obviously they are not going to impact NHL performance right out of their draft year. So many other factors to consider.

[mod]

It wasn’t even the OP’s point about performance....but looking at the current Flyers, these draft picks are the reason why the Flyers are sitting in a playoff spot. And the next ten years are set to be better than the last.

 

[dire wolf]

I'll just throw Buffalo up here since nobody's done it yet. Lots of assets traded out.

2010: Mark Pysyk (traded to FLA for Kulikov)
2011: Joel Armia (traded to WPG in Evander Kane deal)
2012: Grigorenko (traded to COL in O'Reilly deal), Girgensons
2013: Ristolainen, Zadorov (traded to COL in O'Reilly deal)
2014: Sam Reinhart
2015: Eichel; 21st overall traded to OTT for Robin Lehner and David Legwand; 25th overall traded to WPG in Evander Kane deal
2016: Alex Nylander (traded to CHI for Jokiharju)
2017: Mittelstadt
2018: Dahlin
2019: Dylan Cozens; 29th overall traded to ANA in Montour deal

Purple = Traded
Blue = still with organization

 

[Tripod]

Which team has the most 1st rounders on their current roster? The Rangers currently have 11, but it was 13 at the beginning of the season, before Andersson got demoted and Namestnikov got traded.

Not sure about other teams and who have the most, but the Flyers have 14 1st rounders on their roster.

 

[Laveuglette]

2011 and 2015 picks were home-runs. Trading up to draft Konecny was one of the best trades we made recently. The Carter trade ended up really good too, Couturier + Voracek.

 

[Laveuglette]

Actually you could make this fact even crazier : the only Flyers first round pick since 2006 who isn't currently in the organisation is Sbisa.

2006 : Giroux
2007 : van Riemsdyk
2008 : Sbisa
2009 : nobody (traded for Pronger)

+ the 2010-now list that you have already posted.

 

[Merchant]

Current Pens core - 3 Stanley Cups. Philly - Zero. Soooo the ideal strategy becomes clear.... once you get your studs to build your your core around... you fricken utilize those over rated 1st rounders to turn them over for prime roster help to plug holes... then profit.

I like that strategy too -- people over-value 1st rounders, which can be traded to plug holes to make a run (provided you can manage the cap implications). But let's not forget that the Pens' real "strategy" was to tank, get 5 top 5 picks, and win a 30-team lottery to get a guy who I'm sure you would promote as a top 10 player all-time (I don't). Without that, they would have won exactly nothing, no matter how much wheeling and dealing they did.

 

[Merchant]

Remind me how many cups, EC finals of that matter series wins do the Flyers have for the decade?

The exact premise of the thread was that this was a curiosity and not some kind of pat on the back to the Flyers for being amazing at drafting. So "remind me" why you would post such a douchey response? Nevermind. I know why.

 

[Dr Black]

Doing well with the team
Moved on to another team
Too early to call
Bust

Vancouver

2010 - None
2011 - Nicklas Jensen (29) - KHL
2012 - Brendan Gaunce (26) - Bruins AHL
2013 - Bo Horvat (9), Hunter Shinkaruk (24) - KHL
2014 - Jake Virtanen (6), Jared McCann (24) - Penguins
2015 - Brock Boeser (23)
2016 - Olli Juolevi (5)
2017 - Elias Pettersson (5)
2018 - Quinn Hughes (7)
2019 - Vasili Podkolzin (10)

 

[The Macho King]

Doing well with the team
Moved on to another team
Too early to call
Bust

Vancouver

2010 - None
2011 - Nicklas Jensen (29) - KHL
2012 - Brendan Gaunce (26) - Bruins AHL
2013 - Bo Horvat (9), Hunter Shinkaruk (24) - KHL
2014 - Jake Virtanen (6), Jared McCann (24) - Penguins
2015 - Brock Boeser (23)
2016 - Olli Juolevi (5)
2017 - Elias Pettersson (5)
2018 - Quinn Hughes (7)
2019 - Vasili Podkolzin (10)

Juolevi is officially busted? Not criticizing or anything - legit didn't know.

 

[Dr Black]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Bust

Philadelphia

2010 - No 1st rounder
2011 - Couturier
2012 - Laughton
2013 - Morin
2014 - Sanheim
2015 - Provorov, Konecny
2016 - Rubtsov
2017 - Patrick, Frost
2018 - Farabee, O'Brien
2019 - York

 

[Dr Black]

Juolevi is officially busted? Not criticizing or anything - legit didn't know.

In a few years, this may change. But at this point in time, yes. An expectation of a top 5 pick is to make the NHL within a reasonable time frame. This he has already failed to do. Again, this could change down the road, but as of now.

 

[Dr Black]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Moved on to another team
Bust

Winnipeg

2011: Scheifele
2012: Trouba (NYR now)
2013: Morrissey
2014: Ehlers
2015: Connor, Roslovic
2016: Laine, Stanley
2017: Vesalainen
2018: [none]
2019: Heinola

 

[chethejet]

One simply cant look at any pattern here. Pens had MAF, Malkin, Sid and Stall four years in a row. Flyers drafted and even when they had a high pick like Patrick just wasn't that generational talent. So the best course for them was to bring in as much talent as they could and be deep and out roster teams. But the core simply is not good enough to trade for parts that fill holes. Plus they never brought in the top goalie to win in the playoffs. But with smart management and trades that upgrade a position or two, who knows.

 

[Dr Black]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Bust

Toronto

2011 - Tyler Biggs
2012 - Morgan Rielly
2013 - Freddy Gauthier
2014 - William Nylander
2015 - Mitch Marner
2016 - Auston Matthews
2017 - Timothy Liljegren
2018 - Rasmus Sandin

 

[Dr Black]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Moved on to another team
Bust

Edmonton

2010 Tyler Hall
2011 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2012 Nail Yakapov
2013 Darnell Nurse
2014 Leon Draisaitl
2015 Connor McDavid
2016 Jesse Puljujarvi
2017 Kailer Yamamoto
2018 Evan Bouchard
2019 Philip Broberg

 

[StoneHands]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Bust

Philedelphia

2010 - No 1st rounder
2011 - Couturier
2012 - Laughton
2013 - Morin
2014 - Sanheim
2015 - Provorov, Konecny
2016 - Rubtsov
2017 - Patrick, Frost
2018 - Farabee, O'Brien
2019 - York

Lol Patrick had 31 points in 72 games as a 20 year old and now he's a bust? He's battling this migraine thing but to assume he's never going to amount to anything in the NHL already is pretty funny but I guess I should expect you to know much about Philadelphia players when you don't even know how to spell the city.

 

[PALE PWNR]

Doing well with the team
Too early to call
Bust

Philedelphia

2010 - No 1st rounder
2011 - Couturier
2012 - Laughton
2013 - Morin
2014 - Sanheim
2015 - Provorov, Konecny
2016 - Rubtsov
2017 - Patrick, Frost
2018 - Farabee, O'Brien
2019 - York

Fair to call Morin a bust, although I still think he'll make an impact in the NHL at some point. But Patrick who looked really good towards the end of last year? No chance, dude is having difficulties right now for sure, but hes 21 and has looked good at the NHL level. Rubstov is definitely not a bust yet either.

 

[Dr Black]

Fair to call Morin a bust, although I still think he'll make an impact in the NHL at some point. But Patrick who looked really good towards the end of last year? No chance, dude is having difficulties right now for sure, but hes 21 and has looked good at the NHL level. Rubstov is definitely not a bust yet either.

The health of Nolan Patrick is very concerning. If these issues continue to hamper or end his career, it would be a tragedy, but also a bust. Though no fault of his own, still.

Needless to say, if the Flyers had a do-over, they would pick Makar or Pettersson, would they not?

Besides, just because I label someone a bust today, doesn't mean they automatically still be a bust 3 years down the road. There have been others I have labeled busts who have proven me wrong. (I was glad they did) So don't get too bent out of shape.

 

[PALE PWNR]

To call someone who has already been successful in the NHL at 19/20 years old, and is 21 today, but debilitated by injury a bust isn't accurate. Nobody is considering that this will end his career, thats just lunacy. He will find ways to work through it. He is skating every day at practice. The Flyers said they expect him back this season. Hindsight is 20/20 and is a weak argument.

 

[Dr Black]

To call someone who has already been successful in the NHL at 19/20 years old, and is 21 today, but debilitated by injury a bust isn't accurate. Nobody is considering that this will end his career, thats just lunacy. He will find ways to work through it. He is skating every day at practice. The Flyers said they expect him back this season. Hindsight is 20/20 and is a weak argument.

Hopefully, I'm overreacting to his health issues. I hope it's not as ominous I fear it might be. His numbers aren't bad. But his health issues are a concern.

 

[JianYang]

Vasi is Tampa's only 2010s 1st round pick in their roster right now, not a great record for them in that regard. Foote brothers are the other two in the organization left.

In tampa's case, its probably a combination of multiple late round picks, and I assume they have traded a few first rounders along the way in the hopes of contending.

Not necessarily a bad thing, at least on the surface. I dont have the will to dig much deeper, but a lightning fan will probably chime in at some point.

 

[JianYang]

Sergachev was a great pick at 9
Juulsen was looking good before hes injury ( freak injury )
Poehling should become a good #3 center ( 25th pick wasnt a top pick )
Kotkaniemi should be a #2 center maybe #1 depends how he keeps growing
Caufield was a great pick at 15

that being said before 2015 our picks were terrible

From 2010 to 2015, I'm guessing the habs had mostly mid round to late round picks, aside from galchenyuk.

That was probably bad timing for a high pick, as 2012 turned out not to offer much on the earliest of picks.

Edit: just looked it up. Habs drafted #26, 26, 25, 3, 17, and 22 from 2010-2015