Evander Kane "clarifies" tracksuit incident?

[ps241]

All I've seen is talking on forums. Can someone show me what business has come forward to say he didn't pay his bill? A news article etc. I take what I read on forums with a grain of salt. Stastny building a home in Winnipeg. Buf in rehab ( this one was the same time he had the surgery for his ankle) etc. Maybe I'm wrong but I really don't recall actual proof it happened. I looked up and saw that the Free Press said a fan held up a sign at a game but they found no basis to the claim. It's still on Sportsnet.

I can speak to this on a first hand basis.

Keep in mind when Evander moved here he was really young.

Initially he reached out to many of the bars and hot spots and said he would show up at your place and send out a tweet for $500. Everyone I know in the industry kind of laughed about it and thought it was weird. It was something he was doing in collaboration with an old friend in Vancouver I believe. It was not received well and got him off on the wrong foot.

A more common example would be him showing up to a bar with fellow teammates (let’s call it the Green Room) and on this occasion the owner would pick up the tab for the team and EK9 would think it was ok to leave. The then Captain would try to coach him up that it’s probably a good idea to leave a healthy tip for the server who was pampering them all night and EK9 would naively say “no it’s ok the owner picked it up” and he would not kick in cash. The Captain would roll his eyes and hit up the other teammates for cash to leave a generous offering for staff. so this time Evander was covered by his teammates but other times they weren’t there.

A friend of mine had 2 security guards at his establishment to manage traffic after busy Jets games. One night Evander came in right after a loss and wanted to grab an order of wings and a drink quickly by himself. He asked the establishment to put a security guard on his table so nobody would bother him. It put the place in a tight spot since they had multiple doors to monitor and only two guards. It also kind of makes him stand out since no other Jet does this kind of stuff.

I will stop here since this is the more innocent stuff. The stories I have heard from people I know in the Bizz were similar and some were much worse. Initially Evander really struggled to just be a normal Jet who showed up and was a good customer like all his other teammates were.

Some of this was because he was young and didn’t know better but a big part of it was also just Evander's personality. There have been countless other young Jets in our city over the past decade and none of them have had a problem frequenting establishments that I have heard of. Why is that? My theory is because they are not self absorbed and arrogant and they have less of an inflated view of what they are entitled too. They are all celebrities in this town but they don’t tend to take themselves seriously off the ice. They are just “normal” for the most part.

My initial reaction was that I felt sorry for the kid and at the time I was going to reach out to his agent and warn him to try to protect his young star knowing how this would play in Winnipeg but a Jet (we) knew said don’t waist your time the agent would be well aware of it.

Anyways I kept it PG hopefully that helps a bit sting

 

[Jets 31]

There would be no more piss on the floor if they did that.

No way i could even go with Kane staring at me .

 

[Guffman]

Not conduct per say, but when playing Blackjack for money, you are expected to at least play using “basic strategy” when playing with others. When someone at the table doesn’t , it messes the game up for everyone else. You don’t become popular playing haphazardly. you want to play like that, get a table to yourself, but that’s hard to do at small casinos like we have in Winnipeg.

How does that mess the game up for everyone else if you remove the superstitious idiot component from it?

Maybe Kane takes a card he shouldn’t have that would otherwise go to the next player but is that good or bad for the next player compared to the other card he actually gets?

 

[sting13]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5349863

I was talking about his time in Winnipeg and the stories of not paying his bill at restaurants.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

How does that mess the game up for everyone else if you remove the superstitious idiot component from it?

Maybe Kane takes a card he shouldn’t have that would otherwise go to the next player but is that good or bad for the next player compared to the other card he actually gets?

I think the idea is that a donkey at the table throws some extra edge back to the dealer.

Not a gambler or a blackjack player, but I definitely once was an 18 year old in a casino who had no clue how to play blackjack lol.

 

[AlphaLackey]

when EK was here he would routinely go to the Shark Club to gamble a bit after games and he would generally lose about $10,000 per visit and it never took long. He would also piss off the other guys at the table for playing erratic

I don’t gamble but I assume there is a conduct expected from others at a table for when to take cards and not. All I know is the guy REALLY sucked at Gambling.

Blackjack players are very superstitious, they believe that the other player's decisions can have an impact on their prospects. This is not supported by the math, of course; the other player decisions are just as likely to help you as hurt you. After all, instead of a random card, you're getting a random card but gamblers are generally not known for their stoic mathematical worldview. Especially in blackjack where sufficiently skilled players are outright barred from play in most places, so guess what's left?

But yeah, to explain with a simpler example: imagine a game where the player wins if a coin is heads and they lose if the coin is tails. The dealer flips the coin in a sealed box. But before revealing it, one player at the table has the power to demand that the dealer turn the coin over before revealing it.

If the player never used that power, the gamblers would be no more emotional about their wins and losses than usual. But if the player DID use the power? Every time that the dealer flipped over the coin making everyone lose, the other players would ream the shit out of the guy and blame him for their losses; when the dealer flipped over the coin making everyone win, the reaction would be almost zero. But I'm sure it's obvious how the player's chances of winning are the exact same no matter what that guy does, right

And the worst part is, about half the time someone yells at a player for "not knowing how to play correct strategy", it's for a play that is in fact correct strategy, and they just have no idea. And when that happens to me, because as you all know I'm a mature adult who doesn't take things personally, I usually respond by pulling out a $100 bill and offering to look up basic strategy on my phone with the guy, and if I'm wrong I'll give them this, and if I'm right, all I want is an apology. I have yet to get a player willing to take me up on that. Who knew that 100:0 odds were so non-tempting.

Now, if it's a cute woman giving me the gears, I'll alter the deal so that instead of an apology if I'm right, they have to give me a big smooch on the cheek and they have to pretend to like it. THAT has worked on a few occasions

 

[cbcwpg]

How does that mess the game up for everyone else if you remove the superstitious idiot component from it?

Maybe Kane takes a card he shouldn’t have that would otherwise go to the next player but is that good or bad for the next player compared to the other card he actually gets?

This can be a whole debate, but I will say from watching and playing, "it" is definitely a thing. Some players think if the person that acts before them plays it wrong ( according to basic strategy ) that it has affected their outcome. IE" If they end up losing they will blame it on that person. But they seem to forget that they might have actually won because the player before them played it wrong. It is superstitious and a belief.

I will agree with one thing that players will say. The house has a mathematical edge to begin with, so if you don't play following basic strategy, you are just giving the house a bigger edge than they already have. That's math, not superstitions, and it's just not smart.

This is why I prefer poker over blackjack. In poker I'm playing the person, not just a math formula. If everyone at the BJ table plays to basic strategy, you might as well hire robots to sit there and play for you, because the theory is there is only one correct way to play the game and that's how you should be playing.

 

[Hollywood3]

The curious case of Evander Kane vs. Winnipeg restauranteurs

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/evander-kane-pleads-not-guilty-bar-incident-1.3703114

Favourite sport? DINE & DASH

A timeline of Evander Kane 'episodes' with Jets - Sportsnet.ca

Evander Kane vs. ‘the haters’ in Winnipeg, from restaurant controversy to maturity debate

 

[sting13]

The curious case of Evander Kane vs. Winnipeg restauranteurs

Yeah, no one will go on record as saying it happened.

 

[ps241]

Yeah, no one will go on record as saying it happened.

Of coarse they won't publicly with their Brand attached to it? What the f*** is the upside of that? Its a rookie mistake by lawless to single out the restaurants he was polling anyways.