Evander Kane "clarifies" tracksuit incident?

[Yukon Joe]

Everyone tends to focus on Kane's behavior when in Winnipeg, but lets not forget that Kane is facing a lawsuit that he promised a woman $3 million to have an abortion that he later reneged on, plus he was investigated for sexual assault (with the possibility he may have just bought off the complainant there too).

With this many incidents, I think we can say it's more than just the media being hard on Evander.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Can't believe he didn't like a city that constantly ****s on him every chance they get because of hearsay.

Oh right. Apparently every city Kane ends up in is out to get him. Obviously it's not Kane. It's the cities...

"hearsay"

 

[razorsedge]

I'm confused. If he showed up to the team meeting in not formal enough clothes, and they ended up in the shower, what was he wearing during the team meeting? Was he in his gitch?

Building his brand? So far his career brand is being a media and administrative distraction to every team he's played for.

 

[civic204]

This is just sad. Move on Evander.

 

[Roughneck1]

What an odd title of that video. He didn't clarify anything. Even if it wasn't a tracksuit as he claims and just regular clothes, why did it end up in the shower?

It’s pretty obvious he was try to talk his way around things. Also was trying to to very carefully with what he said. He was partly to blame and couldn’t man up to it. Seems more mature these days though. Somewhat. Kinda. Have to give him that.

 

[sting13]

I wish the reporter would ask him why are you lying? You say you asked for a trade every year in Winnipeg, yet you signed a extension with the Jets. Never heard of someone asking for a trade but signing with the team for another six years.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Interesting thread.
One thing you can say about him that’s positive is that he didn’t dog it on the ice.
It’s sad that’s he needs to tell his story about how he was misunderstood or mistreated in Winnipeg and Buffalo.
It’s a weird deflection of something else eating him up internally is my take away.
Hope he works it out eventually

 

[Whileee]

Yeah the Kane brand-building in Winnipeg didn't go well... But the media here were very quick to pile on him as well - Lawless led that charge, IIRC. I mean, you hear the kind of **** that the media politely and obediently sweeps under the rug when it comes to coaches or some players, but this brash 21-year old gets zero benefit of the doubt? I mean, yes, the guy is a me-first *****e, and he committed the cardinal sin of hating Winnipeg, so Winnipeg hates him back, but he didn't get a totally fair shake here.

Quick question. Which fan base embraces a player that doesn't like the city and wants to play somewhere else? It's not just a Winnipeg thing based on insecurity. Fans don't like players that don't want to play for their team or live in their city. No mystery there.

 

[Whileee]

Kane ran up 500k in gambling debts in Vegas between playoff games. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that fans might not relate to him, and inferring it's a Winnipeg or Buffalo thing is just dumb. If the Sharks had been knocked out by Vegas in that series I'm not sure he would be "understood" by the SJ fans quite so much.

Sure, he tries hard while he's on the ice but do we really know whether he's reached his full potential?

 

[Mud Turtle]

So glad he’s gone. That’s all I’ll say.
The mood on the team is so different now. Night and day.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I've heard too many stories on him walking out on his tab. I mean people were nice to him, he just likes to think he's better than everybody else.

I feel like he's making stuff up too, I mean either he genuinely has bad planning considering Maurice said he had to just show up if he wanted to play, but he had horrible scheduling, proper scheduling is a must in the NHL.

But I mean, I feel after Buff, Ladd and several other Jets retire they're going to go Full Send on Evander Kane.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I wish the reporter would ask him why are you lying? You say you asked for a trade every year in Winnipeg, yet you signed a extension with the Jets. Never heard of someone asking for a trade but signing with the team for another six years.

I've always assumed he signed that to make himself a more attractive trade piece. The acquiring team gets some term and cost certainty.

 

[bennylundholm]

Kane ran up 500k in gambling debts in Vegas between playoff games. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that fans might not relate to him, and inferring it's a Winnipeg or Buffalo thing is just dumb. If the Sharks had been knocked out by Vegas in that series I'm not sure he would be "understood" by the SJ fans quite so much.

Sure, he tries hard while he's on the ice but do we really know whether he's reached his full potential?

He's dishonest, a thief, not much upstairs and selfish on and off the ice.
I'm surprised he's doing as well as he is this season.
I predict he will self-destruct later this season or next and San Jose will desperately try and trade him.
He does skate his butt off on the ice, but usually has no idea where he's going. The old skate fast down the wing and shoot at the goalie was his play with the Jets.
A cancer on any team.

 

[JetsNut]

The guy is a supreme tool. Back in the second season the team was here I was out celebrating with a group of friends at a downtown bar where we knew the DJ very well. We had a section reserved with bottle service. The DJ came over and knew how big a Jets fan I was. He said that Kane had just walked in, and he asked him to come over and inform us that he and his buddies (not Jets players) would join us if we ordered the bottles for them. With him looking on, I looked up and laughed and just shook my head. DJ told me after that he was pissed and they left shortly after.

 

[Gm0ney]

Quick question. Which fan base embraces a player that doesn't like the city and wants to play somewhere else? It's not just a Winnipeg thing based on insecurity. Fans don't like players that don't want to play for their team or live in their city. No mystery there.

Winnipeggers seem a little extra-defensive about it. I think if Kane had embraced the city, a lot would've been forgiven. But man, the media were on him fast - you think everyone but Kane is a boy scout? There's lots of stuff that doesn't make it to the airwaves or papers...

 

[Derfel]

There's little to no chance he's telling any truth in that interview. The fact that he even asks "are we rolling?" means he has different stories for different people.

He talks about "branding himself", and then talks about not being able to go out without being recognized. He talks about being a "polarizing figure", but complains about headlines.

If even half of the stories I've heard from people (in the restaurant industry, ticketing, facilities, hotels, etc.) are true, Winnipeg as a city is better off without him here for half the year.

The guy is a flake, always will be a flake, and 5 years from now, no one will be talking about Evander Kane.

 

[iannn]

Kane did build his brand here (and in other cities he's played). It just wasn't a good one lol.

Ignoring the stuff in Winnipeg, this is a player who has not been liked by basically any of his teams or teammates.

In Buffalo:

• Got into multiple altercations with teammates in practice and had teammates directly call him a selfish f***er (Falk/Gorges)
• Was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing for assaulting women in a club and refusing a bouncers orders to leave
• Was investigated for sexual assault (no charges) and later sued
• Was suspended by the team multiple times for missing practices or staying out too late partying

In San Jose

• Sued by a Las Vegas casino for accruing over $500k of gambling debt (ongoing)
  
• Sued by an unnamed woman who says he pressured her to abort a pregnancy and agreed to pay her, only to later refuse (ongoing)

I'm sure there are many others that are unreported or between teammates only. Guy's a tool.

 

[scelaton]

Winnipeggers seem a little extra-defensive about it. I think if Kane had embraced the city, a lot would've been forgiven. But man, the media were on him fast - you think everyone but Kane is a boy scout? There's lots of stuff that doesn't make it to the airwaves or papers...

Defensive? Are you kidding?
99/100 Winnipeggers far prefer the TNSE 'brand' (ie, values) to the Kane 'brand'.
That's not defensiveness, just good taste.

 

[Zippity]

Kane did build his brand here (and in other cities he's played). It just wasn't a good one lol.

Ignoring the stuff in Winnipeg, this is a player who has not been liked by basically any of his teams or teammates.

In Buffalo:

• Got into multiple altercations with teammates in practice and had teammates directly call him a selfish ****er (Falk/Gorges)
• Was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing for assaulting women in a club and refusing a bouncers orders to leave
• Was investigated for sexual assault (no charges) and later sued
• Was suspended by the team multiple times for missing practices or staying out too late partying

In San Jose

• Sued by a Las Vegas casino for accruing over $500k of gambling debt (ongoing)
  
• Sued by an unnamed woman who says he pressured her to abort a pregnancy and agreed to pay her, only to later refuse (ongoing)

I'm sure there are many others that are unreported or between teammates only. Guy's a tool.

You forgot when Kane got his lights punched out at a Winnipeg bar.
He sure seemed super nervous explaining that incident, maybe Buff will clear the air one day.
He was probably LATE for the meeting and all of his stuff was thrown in the shower.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Kane did build his brand here (and in other cities he's played). It just wasn't a good one lol.

Ignoring the stuff in Winnipeg, this is a player who has not been liked by basically any of his teams or teammates.

In Buffalo:

• Got into multiple altercations with teammates in practice and had teammates directly call him a selfish ****er (Falk/Gorges)
• Was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing for assaulting women in a club and refusing a bouncers orders to leave
• Was investigated for sexual assault (no charges) and later sued
• Was suspended by the team multiple times for missing practices or staying out too late partying

In San Jose

• Sued by a Las Vegas casino for accruing over $500k of gambling debt (ongoing)
  
• Sued by an unnamed woman who says he pressured her to abort a pregnancy and agreed to pay her, only to later refuse (ongoing)

I'm sure there are many others that are unreported or between teammates only. Guy's a tool.

I just want to provide some context to that $500,000 gambling debt, because I don't think it really shows just how much insane action he had to be putting into play to rack up that much debt.

Even the worst 'typical' blackjack player using the standard sub-standard strategy would be playing only at about a 2% disadvantage. Which means that to lose $500,000, on average, that means he'd have to have made $X in total bets, where 2% of X is 500k.

That's a total of TWENTY FIVE MILLION dollars in bets, on average, to lose $500k playing blackjack even as bad as Kane does.

This was all in one night between playoff games, so he can't have been at it too long. 8 hours, max? And when you're playing with an entourage and slowing down and showboating and revelling in the limelight, you're looking at 60 hands an hour MAX.

That would be an average bet of about $50,000 **a hand** over EIGHT HOURS with normal luck. Bad luck? Fine, 25k a hand? 20k at the worst. He could also have floated the loan and spent more money on overpriced booze for his entourage, but floating a loan for half a million to treat a bunch of professional hangers-on ain't much better.

So yeah, whichever way this panned out, it happened at *one unsupervised night* in Vegas, like, the only night he could squeeze some trouble in. And by God, he went cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

Like I'm no psychologist, I can only tell you what the numbers say. And they spell "DEGENERATE".

So yeah, pardon me for being inclined to think it's more a "Kane thing" than a "Winnipeg thing".

 

[Teemusalami204]

Perfect example on how anything media related can be subjective.

There was obvious questions that were not allowed to be asked related to kane's other situations.

Remember when Tyson met the mayor of an city he was in and the reporter asked about the rape charge out of no where.

That needed to happen here

 

[Jets 31]

I'm so glad Kane isn't a Jet but i'm a little embarrassed that he's Canadian , he's such a arrogant fool and thinks he's above everyone else .

 

[sting13]

He's dishonest, a thief, not much upstairs and selfish on and off the ice.
I'm surprised he's doing as well as he is this season.
I predict he will self-destruct later this season or next and San Jose will desperately try and trade him.
He does skate his butt off on the ice, but usually has no idea where he's going. The old skate fast down the wing and shoot at the goalie was his play with the Jets.
A cancer on any team.

That's a pretty serious accusation by calling him a thief. What did he steal? was he charged? I don't like him but no bar or establishment in Winnipeg has come forward to say he walked out with out paying.

 

[Guffman]

So 95% of the fans were great, but he wanted out because of 5%?

Lol, it's going to be a tough life if he is always worried about not getting 100% approval.

I bet it was Sipowicz! He’s the reason Kane did not feel comfortable in Winnipeg. Sip, what did you say to him at the coffee shop?!

 

[cheswick]

I wish the reporter would ask him why are you lying? You say you asked for a trade every year in Winnipeg, yet you signed a extension with the Jets. Never heard of someone asking for a trade but signing with the team for another six years.

He was an RFA. It’s not like he could just go anywhere. Of all the things not to believe in that interview, him asking for a trade every off season is the most believable. He would rather play somewhere else but no so much that he would turn down a guaranteed contract.