Erik Karlsson vs. David Rundblad

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Chez Weber

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In the future these 2 guys on the blue line will afraid the penality killers.

Even if Rundblad was amazing in the SEL, Karlson has alredy proven to be good on north american ice.

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It's Karlsson for sure.

Rundblad has a lot of things to prove in many areas of the game. Can he defend against NHLers? Can he do some of the things he's doing against better competition, in a faster tempo? Is there room on the same roster for two so very similar offensive defensemen? Why did I bring helium instead of air?
 

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Rundblad can.

He certainly can't. Rundblad will never posses the speed and first step of Karlsson. Few in the league do or will. That's going to be a big difference between DR and EK. When EK gaffs, he usually just hunts down the player he gave the puck away with his explosiveness. Rundblad, another defenseman who is prone to making errors, won't have that advantage on NHL players.
 

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He certainly can't. Rundblad will never posses the speed and first step of Karlsson. Few in the league do or will. That's going to be a big difference between DR and EK. When EK gaffs, he usually just hunts down the player he gave the puck away with his explosiveness. Rundblad, another defenseman who is prone to making errors, won't have that advantage on NHL players.

Yeah but at 6-3 200 lb, he won't have to as much specially down low.
 

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Yeah but at 6-3 200 lb, he won't have to as much specially down low.

He's quite soft defenseman, good at protecting puck but should use his size More When defending. Both are elite with the puck but runblad is Well below average without. Rundblad is offensively par with karlsson if not Better.they're Very differend players.
 

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Karlsson . Karlsson is good offensively and defensively while Rundblad have some issues in defending. Rundblad could end better player easily but i would take Karlsson i just love his game. They're nearly same age it's Karlsson easily. Karlsson was 2nd best point producer for Sens last season as a defenceman.

Saw enough of Karrlson to say that if Runblad is not as good a defender as Karlsson is, then he may have a tough time finding an NHL career. Karlsson is not a good defender. Excellent PP guy, great with the puck, but has shown no ability to stop people in any way as of yet. That was easily on display last year.
 

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Saw enough of Karrlson to say that if Runblad is not as good a defender as Karlsson is, then he may have a tough time finding an NHL career. Karlsson is not a good defender. Excellent PP guy, great with the puck, but has shown no ability to stop people in any way as of yet. That was easily on display last year.

Is this serious? It's amazing how underrated EK is defensively. Yes he's prone to mistakes and needs to work on his pivots, but there are a lot of times where he makes the perfect defensive play to break up a play, they just go completely unnoticed it seems.
 

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Saw enough of Karrlson to say that if Runblad is not as good a defender as Karlsson is, then he may have a tough time finding an NHL career. Karlsson is not a good defender. Excellent PP guy, great with the puck, but has shown no ability to stop people in any way as of yet. That was easily on display last year.
Karlsson at his best is a good defensive player in this league, he is just still very inconsistent with the defensive effort. Karlsson is a very good PKer, which shows that when he really focuses on D and isn't thinking whatsoever about scoring, he is very good defensively. His positioning is good and his speed getting from pt. A to pt. B in the zone is incredible. He also backchecks very well when he does screw up. When he gains strength in his upper body and becomes a bit more comfortable in his own zone, he will be average defensively. If he makes a true commitment to the defensive side of the game, he could be a quite good defender. Rundblad will obviously need to work harder than Karlsson on defense if he wants to have a solid NHL career but at this point its not the most important thing. Even if he's not NHL ready defensively, he will be given the chance to develop it at the NHL level. I have little doubt that Rundblad will be an NHL regular, and I think a cerebral player like him will do okay defensively because of a)smaller ice surface, and far more importantly, b) he will be playing within a far more organized system (I'd assume-- this is sort of going off of what we saw with and heard from Patty Wiercioch). Rundblad is also much bigger and more physical than Karlsson, and Richardson has done well to polish those qualities in some of our DMen (Campoli, Lee). I expect Rundblad to be heavily coached, and I believe that if he works hard he could eventually surpass Karlsson defensively.
 

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Saw enough of Karrlson to say that if Runblad is not as good a defender as Karlsson is, then he may have a tough time finding an NHL career. Karlsson is not a good defender. Excellent PP guy, great with the puck, but has shown no ability to stop people in any way as of yet. That was easily on display last year.

Watch the PK.
 

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Rundblad was well below average at SEL at defensive zone, he needs coaching at using his big body. Tim Erixon played with him in SEL and was way better at defensive zone and could produce at Offense. Now Rundblad projects PP specialist, i hope he get's good coaching for his defense.
 

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He certainly can't. Rundblad will never posses the speed and first step of Karlsson. Few in the league do or will. That's going to be a big difference between DR and EK. When EK gaffs, he usually just hunts down the player he gave the puck away with his explosiveness. Rundblad, another defenseman who is prone to making errors, won't have that advantage on NHL players.

both players will ahve to cut down turnovers as they get more experience but Rundblad has the size advantage while Karlsson may be faster. hard to say at this point which will be better especially since Rundblad can skate really well for a big guy.
 

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Rundblad was well below average at SEL at defensive zone, he needs coaching at using his big body. Tim Erixon played with him in SEL and was way better at defensive zone and could produce at Offense. Now Rundblad projects PP specialist, i hope he get's good coaching for his defense.

as he gets more experience I think he will be fine in his own end. he has all the tools to improve greatly there and with Maclean here, who has worked with Lidstrom for year, he might be the prefect guy.
 

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Saw enough of Karrlson to say that if Runblad is not as good a defender as Karlsson is, then he may have a tough time finding an NHL career. Karlsson is not a good defender. Excellent PP guy, great with the puck, but has shown no ability to stop people in any way as of yet. That was easily on display last year.

I have an idea. Let's forget about +/- for a few seconds.

Fact. Erik Karlsson was an excellent penalty killer when given the opportunity towards the end of the season.

Fact. Erik karlsson does make errors in his defensive zone which sometimes lead to goals.

Fact. Erik Karlsson has shown that he can be a good player in his own zone when he wants.

Fact. Erik karlsson is young and still learning ways of the game and will develop his defensive game while working on consistency.
 

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I have an idea. Let's forget about +/- for a few seconds.

Fact. Erik Karlsson was an excellent penalty killer when given the opportunity towards the end of the season.

Fact. Erik karlsson does make errors in his defensive zone which sometimes lead to goals.

Fact. Erik Karlsson has shown that he can be a good player in his own zone when he wants.

Fact. Erik karlsson is young and still learning ways of the game and will develop his defensive game while working on consistency.

Karlsson has the same trouble every other 20 year old d-men have. Defending is alot about consistency and routine which are traits that have to be grown. He will be a star for a very long time. I do think Rundblad has the potential to become even better. He's an exciting player to watch. Swedens Bobby Orr! whadyasay? :naughty:
 

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Rundblad and Karlsson are completely different players.

I think Rundblad will be better.
 

YNWA14

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no they arent they are a lot closer than most player comparisons actually

They play completely different games. The only reason they get compared is because they're both Swedish and they both put up points.
 

HSF

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They play completely different games. The only reason they get compared is because they're both Swedish and they both put up points.

not sure if you are serious

both should be excellent PP QB. It is like comparing Redden to Boyle. Yes they are similar
 

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Yeah I'd have to say Karlsson- but with the benefit of knowing that I get to watch both on my team, and don't have to choose ;)
 

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I don't believe it is a fair comparison to use Karlsson's best season in the SEL vs. Rundblad's. Karlsson last season in the SEL was as an 18 year old, whereas Rundblad's was as a 20 year old. How many points did Rundblad put up as an 18 year old?

All that being said, I don't give a rat's ass who's gonna be better as long as they both kick ass as Sens for years to come!!!
 
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