Erik Karlsson says the Senators would have still traded him even if he re-signed with them

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  1. LeafsNation75

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    something bad must have happened between him and melynk
     
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    Makes you wonder what Melnyk's forensic doctors actually found...
     
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    maybe he refused to interview Melnyk originally
     
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    Melnyk wants to run the cheapest team possible. that's all there is to it
     
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    that uber ride was the last straw
     
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    My best guess is a magnet in his leg which attracted Matt Cooke's skate blade. It's the only answer.
     
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    Wow..

    If I'm an NHL prospect being drafted by the Senators, I think i'd probably look across the pond for somewhere else to play until Euge is out.

    This really does guarantee that Ottawa is nothing more than a farm club for the rest of the league until Melnyk is gone.
     
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    what a bunch of crap. ufa's like karrlson all get no movement clauses. they would never sign him if they were going to trade him. he picked up the puck at end of season for a reason cause he wasn't coming back.
     
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    As a Knights fan, there is a part of me that hopes they send Formenton and Tkachuk back to London to avoid the lunacy that is sure to take place this year in Ottawa.
     
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    Well yes, there was no way melnyk was going to pay one player 10m++.

    A trade was bound to happen
     
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    I have no doubt that the "offer" they made on July 1 did not include a NMC. They knew it wouldn't be accepted, just as Karlsson did. The whole "we offered 11 million a year" is crap if it didn't include a guarantee that Ottawa would be paying that 11 million.
     
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    was definitely a token offer to appease/lie to the fans and season ticket holders. Sneaky
     
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    It's really too bad for Ottawa
     
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    Well, this is kind of known. Dorion said they decided they would trade him in February when they wanted to rebuild

    He's probably referring to signing the contract the Sens offered him on July 1st, which was reportedly 7yrs $70M, with no bonuses, front loads, or NMC/NTC. Just completely standard.
     
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    Oh, absolutely. Melnyk/Dorion sat there and fed Sens fans a load of bull**** in hopes that STH would re-sign. Well congrats, only 4000 of them did, and you've probably pissed them off by lying to them.
     
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    Yeah he knew he wasn't coming back because they told him in february that they were trading him lol.
     
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    When you sign a year prior to your deal ending,
    Even if the new deal contains a full nmc and ntc you are still operating on your current deal which only had a 10 team ntc list. That’s always the risk of signing a year in advance when your current deal doesn’t have a full ntc.

    Tyler Johnson could have been moved in June without any restrictions before his ntc kicked in.

    But generally once a team locks in a superstar they generally won’t deal him.
     
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    Uber.
     
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    His new contract might have had a complete NMC but his old one (which still has 1 year in it) did not... so he could be right in saying they would have still traded him
     
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    First Heatley, than Alfie, than Spezza, now Karlsson...
     
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    Sens ownership fed us a line of bull**** a lot of us saw coming a mile away. But for some reason there are Sens fans out there who don’t care and will gladly consume ownerships BS and happily ask for another serving. Mind blowing really.
     
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    This is basically what happened to Jeff Carter in Philly. He signed an extension and his 11 year deal would have had a NTC, but they traded him to Columbus before his NTC kicked in and it was voided because the new team didn't have to honor it.

    From a players perspective it just makes no sense to sign the deal before you have guarantees, that is unless you are happy to play in whatever city they might trade you to.
     
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