Speculation: Erik Karlsson only, or Gardiner+Myers for 11M ?

[newfy]

Need to figure out Lindstrom's potential before a UFA is signed.

You definitely do not need to figure out Lindstrom's potential when it comes to signing a player of Karlssons calibre. Potential of 2nd round pick with 6 points in the SEL this year or sign a multiple Norris winner that is only 28?

 

[PelagicJoe]

Gimme EK.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I prefer a defense where Dekeyser is not on the top pair... give me that one.

I prefer a defense without Dekeyser

 

[kliq]

IMO we sign Karlsson, no desire to sign Gardiner as I have no doubt that this fan base would turn on him in less then a month.

 

[Frk It]

Not sure about that. I could see Rielly is more that. Gardiner looks great on 2-season data, where majority of data comes without Tavares.

Doesn’t matter, even before Tavares they had stacked forwards.

That forward group has a ton of talent. They are inflating his numbers along with Rielly. Drop either one on a rebuilding team and watch those numbers drop off a cliff. And it’s not like he is someone like Niskanen, where he has a defensive game to make up for his points going down.

Personally I would pass on him. Wouldn’t be the worst signing we’ve made if it happens, but too many red flags for me.

 

[Henkka]

Doesn’t matter, even before Tavares they had stacked forwards.

That forward group has a ton of talent. They are inflating his numbers along with Rielly. Drop either one on a rebuilding team and watch those numbers drop off a cliff. And it’s not like he is someone like Niskanen, where he has a defensive game to make up for his points going down.

Personally I would pass on him. Wouldn’t be the worst signing we’ve made if it happens, but too many red flags for me.

More I wonder is his low long-term GAA, than high GF, which could be inflated because of that great offense. Relative number is great because of that GAA, not because of GF. Maybe Andersen saves him every night, but won't save others.

Gardiner is statistically the exact opposite, what people are saying him to be. That's somewhat weird.

 

[kliq]

Doesn’t matter, even before Tavares they had stacked forwards.

That forward group has a ton of talent. They are inflating his numbers along with Rielly. Drop either one on a rebuilding team and watch those numbers drop off a cliff. And it’s not like he is someone like Niskanen, where he has a defensive game to make up for his points going down.

Personally I would pass on him. Wouldn’t be the worst signing we’ve made if it happens, but too many red flags for me.

Keep in mind as well, reports that came out a few months back said it would likely take around 6-7 mil per year to sign him.

This is the the link I found, but I remember seeing it in a lot of places. Pierre LaBrun being the source sounds familiar.

[Leafs Links] Pierre LeBrun: "It will be between $6-7 million for Jake Gardiner if he hits the market, and not as much if he wants to be part of this puzzle in Toronto"; Sean Avery on playing for Mike Babcock | Maple Leafs Hotstove

 

[Henkka]

I was looking Gardiner's contract comparables, and found guys with ~6M range. And those deals are signed on earlier years with lower cap, so realistic number because of the rising cap would be something 6+, under 7M.

 

[obey86]

I'd take Gardiner. Not a fan of Myers.

Obviously I would take Karlsson over the combo.

 

[Bench]

Fortunately most human beings consider a multitude of factors when signing a 7 year contract.

This is interesting stuff. Do you have a TED Talk of yours you could link me to?

 

[kliq]

This is interesting stuff. Do you have a TED Talk of yours you could link me to?

Here is one

 

[SirloinUB]

This is interesting stuff. Do you have a TED Talk of yours you could link me to?

Nope. Id recommend talking to Erik Karlsson if you’d like more information on the factors that will influence his personal decision. It will be more accurate than arbitrary speculation.

 

[Bench]

Nope. Id recommend talking to Erik Karlsson if you’d like more information on the factors that will influence his personal decision. It will be more accurate than arbitrary speculation.

I made a joke about DeKeyser. That was pretty much it.

 

[SirloinUB]

I made a joke about DeKeyser. That was pretty much it.

This is good stuff. Do you have a Netflix special of yours you can link me to

Seriously though, people speculating about decisions they know nothing about is a peeve (good luck to me on the internet) and I see too much of it. As much as you were joking I see others trying to provide definitive answers on what EK may or may not do and it’s silly.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Erik Karlsson of course.

 

[Backhandbeauty]

Myers and Gardiner wow what a couple of great fits. Another injury prone defensemen in Myers and turnstile in Gardiner. They're totally going to turn things around. My interest in acquiring one or both of them is best illustrated by taking the number zero and then proceeding to take giant dump on it.

 

[pz29]

does Karlson even want to come here?

 

[KJoe88]

Karlsson hands down.

That said, Karlsson doesn’t hit FA. But if he does, we may have a chance.

 

[Henkka]

does Karlson even want to come here?

I'm just ivestigating through all teams which could have a chance for Karlsson.

I think best place would be Boston. Chara takes 1-year retirement deal and there you go:

Chara - Karlsson
Krug - Carlo
Moore - McAvoy

 

[Wyzer Plan]

No idea how you can say the future is bright. Until Detroit drafts and develops whoever they pick this summer and Karlsson has signed, the team is still the same one that is at the bottom of the league. So barring two major coups Detroit is and will continue to be a bottom feeder for the foreseeable future (2-3 seasons).

We just went through a complete overhaul as far as team identity goes. There is a lot to look forward too. It’s not very often teams go on a 25 year tear. I can be patient and watch some crappy hockey for a couple years. We have a lot of young talent man and it’s exciting to see how they all pan out. This doom and gloom atmosphere around here is killing me.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

does Karlson even want to come here?

I bet he would if we drafted Hughes?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Karlsson hands down.

That said, Karlsson doesn’t hit FA. But if he does, we may have a chance.

I think it's safe to assume, That he resigns with San Jose. Maybe in the 8 x 11.5 million range.

 

[Henkka]

I think it's safe to assume, That he resigns with San Jose. Maybe in the 8 x 11.5 million range.

There was some talk than Karlsson can't sign that 8-year deal before the trade deadline. Maybe it happens after that and not in the summer.

 

[InjuredChoker]

There was some talk than Karlsson can't sign that 8-year deal before the trade deadline. Maybe it happens after that and not in the summer.

yeah it's in the CBA.

 

[GMR]

does Karlson even want to come here?

If this was 2011 and we had a bunch of Swedes on the roster, I'd say yes.

It's a hard sell convincing a top free agent pushing 30, who's never won the Stanley Cup, that he should sign a long-term contract with a bottom feeder team.