Is Tatar remotely close to Karlsson in impact?
Your right, no team is giving up the players you listed but if you read my posts , I went out of my way to state roster players are not what Ottawa should be looking for .
Have I been drinking? Nice.....Is there something you need to share with us?
What are these pieces TB is willing to part with, any reliable sources? So far no one has been to reliable.
Right now , Ottawa can sit on this.
They have no obligation to accommodate Karlsson.
Managers (and owners) are willing to pay almost any price to acquire a player that will put them over the top. Karlsson has that capacity. At TDL when
1) you let a team keep their roster players.
2) cap space requirements are minimal
3) futures is all your asking
And Oh, I'm not a Sens fan, don't know what ever gave you that impression.
No, Karlsson is clearly a far better player than Tatar. I don't think anyone in their right mind would suggest otherwise.
But you can't compare these two players in a vacuum. One (Tatar) is young, under control for 3+ seasons, and has a comfortable cap hit. The other (Karlsson) is a pending UFA, apparently is keen on playing in Tampa, is only willing to extend with one team, and will be looking for a contract anywhere in the neighborhood of 10-11.5 mil a pop.
These are completely different circumstances. If we've learned anything since 2006, it's that, in a Cap NHL, GM's place a massive emphasis on A) Franchise icons (Crosby, Ovechkin, Kane, Kopitar, etc.) that are part of the team and community over the long haul... B) Players under team control with a cap-friendly term... and C) Young players who can step in, make an impact, on rookie and bridge contracts.
No team is going to give up a ton to rent Karlsson at the deadline. It doesn't matter how good he is, it's franchise suicide unless you win the Cup.
Now, you keep saying "futures" but what's that mean exactly?! At the deadline, sure, a contender will give up a 1st, 2nd and B prospect to rent Karlsson (if they even still have their 1st to trade). But that is a garbage return for a franchise player.
As for what other teams are offering... Here's what we believe is accurate (based on multiple reports):
- DAL: Willing to give up Honka and picks, but reluctant to part with Heiskanen.
- VGK: Unwilling to part with Glass, who Ottawa wants in any deal with Vegas.
- TAM: Names being thrown around include Sergachev, Foote, Cirelli, Johnson, Raddysh etc.
It's been clear, by all indications today, that Tampa is currently willing to give up the most because Karlsson is open to extending with them. If other teams are already unwilling to give up a haul for Karlsson now (when they can have him for the whole season), why would they miraculously be willing to give up more in March to rent him for 2 months?? Makes zero sense.
It appears a deal with Tampa was done, until Melnyk insisted Ryan be included. That is the issue. Melnyk needs to get over it.
I assumed you were a Sens fan because you are / were arguing on their behalf, like they should just play hardball with Karlsson on spite in hopes some team will give up a king's ransom to rent him at the deadline. It doesn't work that way in the new NHL.
According to MacLean, people around the league are saying that, "teams who can't sign Karlsson to an extension aren't even offering up as much as the package it took to get O'Reilly." That goes to show you how much GM's value players under control (and de-value pending UFAs that could strive for max dollars).
