Player Discussion Erik Karlsson Discussion Thread | Part IV | Foot Surgery Edition

[slamigo]

https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-ekman-larsson-reach-verbal-agreement-on-extension-1.1110201


So TSN reporting that OEL and the team have a “verbal agreement” but Dorion says he’s not allowed to talk to EK about contracts....

 

[Very Stable Genius]

As if I couldn't get even more depressed about this team.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

As if I couldn't get even more depressed about this team.

the NHL gave him a warning earlier in the season for talking contract with the press.

 

[slamigo]

the NHL gave him a warning earlier in the season for talking contract with the press.

He can negotiate with EK. From what I understand, the NHL didn't like the team spelling out terms of the contract proposal to the press.
There's a huge difference between 'don't negotiate through the press' to 'I'm not allowed to negotiate with EK until July 1'.

If anything, getting a verbal agreement with EK would have been a wonderful distraction from the Randy Lee fiasco.

 

[Zorf]

https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-ekman-larsson-reach-verbal-agreement-on-extension-1.1110201


So TSN reporting that OEL and the team have a “verbal agreement” but Dorion says he’s not allowed to talk to EK about contracts....

I assume that Dorion is working the phones with Karlsson's agent. There's no chance that he isn't, especially with the draft coming up. If EK needs to be traded, the draft is the best time and place to do it.

Dorion is probably just playing it ultra safe with respects to talking about contracts with the media after he got his wrist slapped about it before.

 

[philb613]

Time for some reckless speculation..sort of, Bobby's agent believes both he and Karlsson are gone this summer. He did say the same thing around trade deadline though so who knows if it'll come to fruition this time around.

 

[Micklebot]

Time for some reckless speculation..sort of, Bobby's agent believes both he and Karlsson are gone this summer. He did say the same thing around trade deadline though so who knows if it'll come to fruition this time around.

Is there a source for this, not doubting it, but wouldn't mind seeing the context of the comments.

 

[philb613]

Is there a source for this, not doubting it, but wouldn't mind seeing the context of the comments.

Not a report no just from a friend in the organization, thus the preface of reckless speculation. But he's pretty close with Bobby so thought it was worth sharing given the nature of this particular thread.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Or maybe he should get rid of her if she’s that disgusting a person.

 

[BatherSeason]

the NHL gave him a warning earlier in the season for talking contract with the press.

Dorion is lying.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

I mentioned this weeks ago, it is pretty rampant from those in the know. What Count stated I heard a while ago , and lawmakers mentioned it before me...and a lot of whispers about it. Karl was on a mission to find out who was behind certain instagram posts,

Her Instragram account is no more, it has ceased to be, it has expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

 

[Zorf]

Melnyk selling will help.

One of my best good friends knows a player on the Sens. Enough that they text regularly. Story from the player on the team is that EK will sign if Melnyk sells the team. If not, it's less likely that he'll stick around.


I've never wanted Wondercarrot's prediction to come true more than right now.

 

[bert]

It doesn't make sense. Unless this girlfriend is a complete idiot and wants to lose any chance of having a sugar daddy. And no way Hoffman (or any player who isn't a superstar) would stick with a girlfriend who could cause that kind of damage to his professional career.

Well I dont think Hoffman is the sharpest tool in the shed. She's been problematic long before this rumor was started.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I agree EK will extend, but that's a little ambitious. Between Tampa, Boston, Toronto and now Buffalo and Florida on the come up, that's gonna be a tough feat. We need to hope our young guns all play like STUDS

If we get new owners will be able to afford a legit partner for EK. That will give us a top 3 of ek, blank, Chabot. Can compete with any forward group.

 

[slamigo]

Well I dont think Hoffman is the sharpest tool in the shed. She's been problematic long before this rumor was started.

She must fall on the high side of this chart.

 

[philb613]

She must fall on the high side of this chart.

Great show, I've played soccer against her in a coed league and I can tell you she fails Barney's test definitely more crazy than hot.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-ekman-larsson-reach-verbal-agreement-on-extension-1.1110201


So TSN reporting that OEL and the team have a “verbal agreement” but Dorion says he’s not allowed to talk to EK about contracts....

I legit wouldn't forgive myself for spending money on this team at this point.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I legit wouldn't forgive myself for spending money on this team at this point.

Agreed – and I'm expanding it to the Canadian Tire Centre as a whole. None of my money will go toward supporting the man whose business decisions are running my favourite team into the ground.

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Great show, I've played soccer against her in a coed league and I can tell you she fails Barney's test definitely more crazy than hot.

Can we just trade Hoffman's GF and keep him?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Can we just trade Hoffman's GF and keep him?

I'll have an offer on your desk in the morning.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Well I dont think Hoffman is the sharpest tool in the shed. She's been problematic long before this rumor was started.

How so?

 

[The Lewler]

Can we just trade Hoffman's GF and keep him?

Isn't he engaged to her ?

Sounds like he's locking dat crazy down .

 

[HSF]

https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-ekman-larsson-reach-verbal-agreement-on-extension-1.1110201


So TSN reporting that OEL and the team have a “verbal agreement” but Dorion says he’s not allowed to talk to EK about contracts....

not true

 

[slamigo]

not true

You're right. I decided to dig a little deeper:

On figuring out the contract value of what kind of money the team can offer to Erik Karlsson…

“I think we’ve addressed it. I want to be respectful here. I think we addressed it in the town halls. If you’re ready to pay the fine, I’ll go and sit down for a coffee afterwards. We have a CBA and I’m not allowed to say anything (publicly) until July 1st.”

The 'warning' from the NHL appears to have been related to Mark Stone contract talks.

On ideally wanting to get a Stone contract done before Karlsson’s deal…

“I might have gotten an email or maybe not gotten an email (from the NHL). Maybe warned or maybe not warned (by the NHL). I can’t talk about future contracts on a specific player (as I’ve been instructed) from our league. So I’m going to be very careful on that one, but when it comes to Mark Stone, we’ve had talks and they were productive. We feel confident that we can do something.”

Thoughts in Bold: Dorion's End of the Year Media Availability

 

[BatherSeason]

You're right. I decided to dig a little deeper:

On figuring out the contract value of what kind of money the team can offer to Erik Karlsson…

“I think we’ve addressed it. I want to be respectful here. I think we addressed it in the town halls. If you’re ready to pay the fine, I’ll go and sit down for a coffee afterwards. We have a CBA and I’m not allowed to say anything (publicly) until July 1st.”

The 'warning' from the NHL appears to have been related to Mark Stone contract talks.

On ideally wanting to get a Stone contract done before Karlsson’s deal…

“I might have gotten an email or maybe not gotten an email (from the NHL). Maybe warned or maybe not warned (by the NHL). I can’t talk about future contracts on a specific player (as I’ve been instructed) from our league. So I’m going to be very careful on that one, but when it comes to Mark Stone, we’ve had talks and they were productive. We feel confident that we can do something.”

Thoughts in Bold: Dorion's End of the Year Media Availability

Why would the Mark Stone contract talks be any different? They actually make less sense than a fine for talking about EK's contract. Stone is an RFA this year, teams talk about negotiations with RFAs all the time.

Maybe Dorion isn't lying, but he is very very bad at telling the truth then.