Confirmed with Link: Erik Gustafsson v.2 traded to Montreal

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Reminder: they chose to waive Ghost, having a stellar season, over Gustafsson because they didn’t want to risk Gus being claimed. Financial realities aside, they took on that risk over what is now a 7th rounder.

And people don’t think Fletcher wins in the margins!
 

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Reminder: they chose to waive Ghost, having a stellar season, over Gustafsson because they didn’t want to risk Gus being claimed. Financial realities aside, they took on that risk over what is now a 7th rounder.

And people don’t think Fletcher wins in the margins!

Really fascinating to watch people manage to defend this guy.

All he does is bleed value at every chance he gets. Constantly. It's the only possible future this team has under him.
 

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I don’t know what’s more surprising, that the Flyers got something for him, or that Montreal wanted him
 
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Biggest asset in this trade is the ipen contract slot. Flyers were at 50 before today. Maybe they cn now signcates/Attard
 
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Opens a slot and dumps a mistake, with a 2 year hangover.
I don't understand that: Gustafsson's contract is for one year, ending this year, no? The retained money is this year only, isn't it? Or are you referring to something else?
 

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So we bought a 7th round pick for 50% of the remainder of Gustafsson’s salary.

41 games on the roster divided by 56 total games = 73% played with 27% remaining. 27% times $3,000,000 salary is roughly $800,000. We retained half of that. So by my math we essentially paid $400,000 for a 7th round pick. Call me crazy, but that seems like bad asset management. Should have just traded him for “future considerations” or made the 7th round pick conditional.
 

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Reminder: they chose to waive Ghost, having a stellar season, over Gustafsson because they didn’t want to risk Gus being claimed. Financial realities aside, they took on that risk over what is now a 7th rounder.

And people don’t think Fletcher wins in the margins!

What risk? At the time Ghost was playing meh. And he's still a 3rd pair guy.
So either they get out from under his contract (and make it more likely Seattle takes Voracek or JVR) or they have a little cap flexibility going into the TDL.

They need to clear real cap room (Laughton got a raise about equal to what they'll save by replacing Raffl with a kid on an ELC).
Whether they sign or trade for a top four RHD, we're talking $5-8M or so.

NHL doesn't allow you to roll cap money forward like the NFL.
So Gus was a waste, but not one with future ramifications.
 

HeyHanrahan

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The alternative was to pay him 800k to eat the suite popcorn.
Yeah I get that the alternative is worse. I’m just trying to point out the colossal waste of cap space Gustafson was. He was so bad we couldn’t give him away for free, yet Fletcher decided to waive Ghost instead.
 

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So we bought a 7th round pick for 50% of the remainder of Gustafsson’s salary.

41 games on the roster divided by 56 total games = 73% played with 27% remaining. 27% times $3,000,000 salary is roughly $800,000. We retained half of that. So by my math we essentially paid $400,000 for a 7th round pick. Call me crazy, but that seems like bad asset management. Should have just traded him for “future considerations” or made the 7th round pick conditional.

You have to consider the intangibles of that 7th round pick
 

deadhead

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Yeah I get that the alternative is worse. I’m just trying to point out the colossal waste of cap space Gustafson was. He was so bad we couldn’t give him away for free, yet Fletcher decided to waive Ghost instead.

We couldn't give Ghost away either, people wanted money retained. That's why Fletcher was confident Ghost wouldn't be claimed.
 
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What risk? At the time Ghost was playing meh. And he's still a 3rd pair guy.
So either they get out from under his contract (and make it more likely Seattle takes Voracek or JVR) or they have a little cap flexibility going into the TDL.

They need to clear real cap room (Laughton got a raise about equal to what they'll save by replacing Raffl with a kid on an ELC).
Whether they sign or trade for a top four RHD, we're talking $5-8M or so.

NHL doesn't allow you to roll cap money forward like the NFL.
So Gus was a waste, but not one with future ramifications.

At the time, Ghost was playing well. Like he's played all season. It was a debacle of a decision only spared by the fact that a lot of other GMs are also pretty stupid. When they're hunting for improvements at D in the market they're going to regret passing.

Hockey Guys aren't brilliant people.
 

JVR21

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Yeah I get that the alternative is worse. I’m just trying to point out the colossal waste of cap space Gustafson was. He was so bad we couldn’t give him away for free, yet Fletcher decided to waive Ghost instead.
Or you can think of it as salvaging $400,000 on what would have otherwise been a sunk cost and getting a 7th rounder to boot.
 

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