Mata
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Here’s a question for Erie fans..
30 games left in the season. What type of expectations do you have, and could it change your opinion of Hartsburg?
I want him gone regardless. But obviously if things go great from now until end of the year, then the organization probably keeps him. So, what would it take for you fans to also be okay with them keeping him
They have about half their remaining games against teams hovering around or worse than .500. At the very least, I want to see them team win 19 games down the stretch. Would put them at 35 wins. That would give them a chance to get to 6th seed. The goal would then be to win at least 2 playoff games and be competitive
Piggy backing off of the opinion question NOA and for Erie Fans;
Who has been your biggest growth player this first half and who has kinda played below expectations in your minds?
I am most impressed by Hoffman. The kid never takes a shift off, got inserted into the penalty kill and does a great job clogging the middle. He isn't our most skilled player, but he plays big nearly every night and I think it goes relatively unseen because of our depth/talent.
Singer has been my biggest let down. I expected his goal tally to be much higher considering he has a great shot and is on PP1 most of the time.
I think the maturation of our younger players is starting to come to fruition with guys like Morton, Cohen, Lockhart, and if you want to count Swankler I'm not opposed to that as he is in his first year with us. Campbell is as advertised, though has his moments where he lapses, when he is on he can be lights out.
They’re gonna be awfully hard pressed to go 19-11 down the stretch. Aren’t they 16-22 right now?Here’s a question for Erie fans..
30 games left in the season. What type of expectations do you have, and could it change your opinion of Hartsburg?
I want him gone regardless. But obviously if things go great from now until end of the year, then the organization probably keeps him. So, what would it take for you fans to also be okay with them keeping him
They have about half their remaining games against teams hovering around or worse than .500. At the very least, I want to see them team win 19 games down the stretch. Would put them at 35 wins. That would give them a chance to get to 6th seed. The goal would then be to win at least 2 playoff games and be competitive
They’re gonna be awfully hard pressed to go 19-11 down the stretch. Aren’t they 16-22 right now?
I’ll give you shootout losses. Basically a coin flip skills competition at that point but every team has 5-6-7-8 games that were one goal losses or EN 2 goal losses where they should have had it. Every team in the O has shown somewhere between a little inconsistency and a lot of inconsistency. I’ve watched 35 games of ridiculous line juggling and kids being hurt, kids being gone for tournaments and D retiring due to concussions too. Erie had some bad luck with Imports, which always hurts bad and I can’t see them winning a playoff round once the top teams solidify their rosters. I certainly wouldn’t be adding from a bare draft pick cupboard and I think they’d be better served long term to win less games this year and recruit another top pick the way they did Drysdale. You can pride yourself on adding quality late round picks to supplement or enhance your roster but you can’t live on that and expect to build a Championship core.
I’ll give you shootout losses. Basically a coin flip skills competition at that point but every team has 5-6-7-8 games that were one goal losses or EN 2 goal losses where they should have had it. Every team in the O has shown somewhere between a little inconsistency and a lot of inconsistency. I’ve watched 35 games of ridiculous line juggling and kids being hurt, kids being gone for tournaments and D retiring due to concussions too. Erie had some bad luck with Imports, which always hurts bad and I can’t see them winning a playoff round once the top teams solidify their rosters. I certainly wouldn’t be adding from a bare draft pick cupboard and I think they’d be better served long term to win less games this year and recruit another top pick the way they did Drysdale. You can pride yourself on adding quality late round picks to supplement or enhance your roster but you can’t live on that and expect to build a Championship core.
Piggy backing off of the opinion question NOA and for Erie Fans;
Who has been your biggest growth player this first half and who has kinda played below expectations in your minds?
I am most impressed by Hoffman. The kid never takes a shift off, got inserted into the penalty kill and does a great job clogging the middle. He isn't our most skilled player, but he plays big nearly every night and I think it goes relatively unseen because of our depth/talent.
Singer has been my biggest let down. I expected his goal tally to be much higher considering he has a great shot and is on PP1 most of the time.
I think the maturation of our younger players is starting to come to fruition with guys like Morton, Cohen, Lockhart, and if you want to count Swankler I'm not opposed to that as he is in his first year with us. Campbell is as advertised, though has his moments where he lapses, when he is on he can be lights out.
Lol glad you brought that up MataNormally I would agree with you shootouts are a coin flip...
Then there is this years coaching. Perhaps if he put in our top offensive threats into shootouts our record would be better. That being said we have had the coach favorite in a couple and a defenseman going in another. Under Hartsburg it is more of a 30/70 us/them.
I don't agree on this one. I just looked at his stats (and others) and he has had some good streaks this year. I think with Sproule and many other players such as D'amato, Hoffman, who aren't getting the same ice time opportunities, and not much pp then production will be much less. Also, many games playing on bottom lines and some games not much ice time at all. Others who get to play 1st pp, plus top 6 minutes should be producing big points. Sproule, D'Amato are still 7th and 8th on team in points.Biggest disappointment for me is Sproule. He just hasn’t quite been a productive player on offense throughout his career. I expected it to really click for him this year
I don't agree on this one. I just looked at his stats (and others) and he has had some good streaks this year. I think with Sproule and many other players such as D'amato, Hoffman, who aren't getting the same ice time opportunities, and not much pp then production will be much less. Also, many games playing on bottom lines and some games not much ice time at all. Others who get to play 1st pp, plus top 6 minutes should be producing big points. Sproule, D'Amato are still 7th and 8th on team in points.
Sproule hasn’t been given the opportunity lately but he had plenty early on. He’s a former first round pick in his 3rd year. Expectations are higher for him vs many others
I think Sopa, barring any more serious injury to the squad, moves us a tier above Flint, SOO, and Owen Sound mostly because of the depth of the roster we have. The only thing holding us back from competing for a 3, 4, or 5 slot is coaching (now) and the early season injuries that in my mind cost us 3 - 5 wins.
We CAN compete against the top with our roster in a playoff series as evidenced by this previous road trip, the biggest problems being inconsistency and IMO, being outcoached, not so much lack of talent/depth.
Danial Singer waived and sent down to the Niagara Falls Canucks of the GOJHL. A little surprised no one else wanted him, I thought he had played a little better recently, but didn't really fit in on this roster. That trade stands out even more now as a huge failed opportunity by Brown, everything surrounding Lodnia really, though it's rumored he didn't have many options in the matter.
I assume this means Swankler is healthy and MacDougall is returning soon, as this puts the team down to 13 forwards (with Bressette in Jr. B).
MacDougall possible for the weekend. Possible winger coming from London
Fox and Donnay helped launch Erie on their 4 year run. I'd say that worked out for you.You know I was just thinking yesterday : this would be an ideal time to complete a trade with London for ANOTHER overrated player for which we overpay for ..
Just like we usually do with Niagara
Brown : you have SUCKER written all over your forehead .. wake up and quit overpaying would ya ??
You know I was just thinking yesterday : this would be an ideal time to complete a trade with London for ANOTHER overrated player for which we overpay for ..
Just like we usually do with Niagara
Brown : you have SUCKER written all over your forehead .. wake up and quit overpaying would ya ??
Fox and Donnay helped launch Erie on their 4 year run. I'd say that worked out for you.
I'd say the trouble is you guys emptied your draft cupboard and went on an unprecedented 4 year run. Now Brown has no idea how to restock. That trade today was ridiculous - just throwing away draft picks. It's like putting your last $50 on 00 on the roulette wheel.
Even if he had an idea, it's still going to take time. Personally I think finally getting the OHL championship was worth it, not to mention the caliber of hockey you should have enjoyed. How soon you forget.