GWT: English Premier League: 10/24 - 10/25/2015

Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Live in the Now, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. les Habs

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    Maybe Hazard isn't doing that, but don't be surprised if there are players in the game who are doing that. I think it's the wrong thing to do, but I think it's naive to think that it doesn't happen and hasn't happened a lot.

    Managers make a huge difference. Not to turn this into a Barça discussion, but the results with nearly the same players at Barça but with different managers speaks volumes. Some managers simply get the best out of players or the majority of players while some don't. I look back at Ronaldinho who was the best player in the World and who simply partied his way out of that position. Had Guardiola been in charge two years sooner, all other things being the same in terms of his managerial experience, that would have never happened. This isn't to say that Mourinho doesn't get the best out of his players the majority of the time, but even when things are going well players can stop performing. And let's face it, things aren't going well for Chelsea at the moment.

    I think there's something to having the right players that fit into your tactics as well. Chelsea aren't bereft of them, but I think they could improve on a few.

    I also think there's something to morale as Edonator mentioned and a lot of that can come from results. Chelsea aren't getting results at the moment like they're accustomed and Mourinho doesn't strike me as someone to pick up the players and get them out of a rut.

    Still to perhaps add to your point, I think Mourinho's record hasn't been put into context in the past. I've been saying it for years. Take his record with Inter. It was just after Calciopoli and they didn't really have much competition in the league at all. They also shouldn't have even been in the CL Final, though to be fair that was still a good run. On top of that his first stint at Chelsea saw massive spending and one of the most expensive sides in the game. At Madrid he had the most expensive side ever assembled. Even last season I would argue that while Chelsea deserved the league from what I saw, it was in part to an opponent like Man City not living up to it's potential as much as it was down to Chelsea. Of course Mourinho deserves credit for the difference if you ask me, but had Man City lived up to it's potential I think things would have been different.

    Before anyone jumps all over me for that last paragraph, I will say that I still think that Mourinho is a good manager in one sense of the word. He's proven in my opinion despite that context that I would put his record into and he's done jobs that I don't think many other managers could have done.
     
  2. Bakayoko Ono

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    How bad is this Sunderland team? It's like they have no idea what to do with the ball.
     
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    njdevsfn95 Help JJJ, Sprite.

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    Well the Universe is not letting me use my "one time" today.
     
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    YNWA14 Onbreekbaar

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    How does anyone lose 3 - 0 to Sunderland?
     
  6. Alklha

    Alklha Moderator

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    How does anyone lose 6 successive League games to Sunderland? :laugh:
     
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    Cassano nyeah eh

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    Tim Sherwood sacked one season after leading Villa to the FA Cup final.
     
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    This helps:

    @NewcastleStats: Fouls/card ratio:

    #SAFC - 11 fouls, 0 yellow, 0 red.
    #NUFC - 5 fouls, 2 yellow, 1 red.

    Newcastle were statistically superior in all but 1 aspect of the match that required a "penalty" to put it in Sunderland's favor.

    And of course the team fell apart after that because of the streak and all.
     
  9. Finnish your Czech

    Finnish your Czech J'aime Les offres hostiles

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    What did they just do to Rooney's head injury?
     
  10. McOilbleeder

    McOilbleeder We are all Kloppites

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    Also leading them to getting 1 point out of a possible 27.
     
  11. Jussi

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    Stapled it.
     
  12. Finnish your Czech

    Finnish your Czech J'aime Les offres hostiles

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  13. Jussi

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    Sterling off for Navas.
     
  14. Jussi

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    Still no shots on goal from either team.
     
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    Zzzzzz this game.

    Since everyone likes to **** on him every time he makes a mistake...Otamendi has been great this game.
     
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    I Eat Crow Fear The Mullet Sponsor

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    How deep in van Gaal's **** list is Memphis if Lingaard and Fellani are subbed on before him?
     
  17. Jussi

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    Schweini off for Fellaini. More (crappy) crosses coming....
     
  18. Jussi

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    Apparently he's been thinking too much that he's "all that" and off the pitch behaviour hasn't been very professional. His on pitch performances haven't that stellar lately either. "Growing pains"
     
  19. Jussi

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    And Valencia's injured again... Darmian on.
     
  20. Jussi

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    We have a shot on goal!
     
  21. Jussi

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    And now United have a shot on goal!
     
  22. Finnish your Czech

    Finnish your Czech J'aime Les offres hostiles

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    Well that was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back
     
  23. Jussi

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    Well that was boring. United had oodles of possession but City kept them out of scoring areas while United made some very poor crosses. Fitting that Fellainin header created the best scoring chance for United.
     
  24. Hesher

    Hesher Sagan for President

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    Memphis, Carrick, and Blind have all been in the doghouse since the Arsenal disaster.

    What a boring game.
     
  25. spintheblackcircle

    spintheblackcircle Big Bad Vlad

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    Kane with 3 goals, simple win over the Cherries.

    Up to 6th now, they have as good a shot as any at the top 4
     

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