Stonz
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They did just buy an AHL team.
Gillis' response to the idiot who asked about the ticket prices in relation to a decreasing cap was right on point, like it or not.
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They did just buy an AHL team.
Gillis' response to the idiot who asked about the ticket prices in relation to a decreasing cap was right on point, like it or not.
The Bob Cole
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I've known people that have worked there... outside those 'front office' staff you see on the site some of you are talking about, most people are making peanuts there.
In professional sports, staff members 'sacrifice' their salary... teams expect people want to work for them no matter what and that if you aren't the right person at their stated salary, then someone else is willing to work for it. In any of the 4 major leagues, only the top brass make good money, the rest are well below pay grade for equal opportunities in other organizations.
Also - those prices next year were set well before the team failed out of the playoffs. STH were sent them in probably March or early April... people are just picking up on it now because it's relevant since the team sucked. Should they reduce it after a year like this... yah. But, they already set their prices...
BC Ben
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All the stuff I get as a STH isn't enough to balance the high cost vs poor playoff result ratio. I know its childish to compare that against the success the regular season has held, but at what point do they consider ticket prices too high? When STHs opt out and those on the blueline waitlist decide to pass on paying the exhorbitant prices?
I had thought to upgrade my STH package next year, but not when it will cost me a significant increase yet again... At this point, I don't make any money on the resale to games I cannot attend - I practically give the tickets away when family or friends attend. Why would I buy more tickets and take a loss because the market is saturated with tickets from other dissillusioned STHs?
I had thought to upgrade my STH package next year, but not when it will cost me a significant increase yet again... At this point, I don't make any money on the resale to games I cannot attend - I practically give the tickets away when family or friends attend. Why would I buy more tickets and take a loss because the market is saturated with tickets from other dissillusioned STHs?
Yes its getting ridiculous. I am on the blueline waitlist and seriously considering dropping out. I am having a hard time justifying it when the Canucks are giving money to the NHL to keep other teams afloat that have ticket prices at half the cost.
yeah i wish people recognized this. even intelligent people i respect fall into that from time to time.
thefeebster
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When I was in university looking for a job and knew someone working there, they told me it was about $12/hr. But that was about 5 years ago... could have changed.
Jack Tripper
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gillis was the one who brought it up, almost to the point of disgust that theyd have to resort back to negative tactics to get better outcomes next season
id agree that there are better ways to implement thse strategies and undoubtedly a new coaching staff will assist with that but i just thought it was interesting that gillis seemed to think this team didnt already rely on these kind of tactics
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He does say that he will push back, but then he follows it by saying even Holland admits that they puck will have to be dumped into the corner now, more often than not. Later, he says there was very little available when talking about his Roy acquisition... He also was rumoured to be going after Torres, Clowe at the same time.
I think his message is mixed.
To me, what he does with Roy will be especially telling. Given what's out there, now and into the near future, Roy seems a prime candidate to retain. But he's a small, skilled C that didn't get it done here, in the end. So does he go back to the Booth/Torres/Clowe types, at the expense of skill staring right at him, or does he go with the most purely skilled option?
There is an immediate choice here that will let us know where his head is.
Yeah, 'He's all that was available.' is hardly a ringing endorsement.
If he wants to be bigger and skilled, Roy doesn't exactly fit the bill. I do think though that if MG can manage to bring in a big skilled C, they should move Kesler to RW. Kesler isn't really a playmaker, and while he is OK at faceoffs, faceoffs were a huge problem all year including the playoffs.
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Yeah, 'He's all that was available.' is hardly a ringing endorsement.
A big skilled left shooting 2nd line C would give us a one two punch for faceoffs, and help our team a lot all round, but I fear that is asking too much...
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I think this is the closest you will find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Weiss
If talks between him and Florida have broken down, I wonder if we can trade the rights to Roy for the rights to Wiess.
Yeah, 'He's all that was available.' is hardly a ringing endorsement.
Doubt it. MG just trying to cover himself and make it seem like he had no other choice. Maybe he was all that's available for a 2nd and a prospect. MG's just cheap. He always has been cheap. ffs, he couldn't even get torres.
I was impressed with Roy's skill in the regular season. He has some sick vision and is very shifty. Kinda like a crappier Patrick Kane. During the playoffs, TSN showed his recent playoff stats. I can't remember it properly but I was not impressed. I think they said he had 1 goal in his last 20 or 30 playoff games. I was disappointed after that. 
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The biggest thing with Boston, and it's clear in the way that come playoffs when Krejci came alive...suddenly Lucic and Horton are back to looking like the dangerous weapons on the wing that gave us fits...is that these sort of 'big power wingers' need guys who can dish the puck effectively to really work well. It's a symbiotic thing, that combination of 'power winger' + 'slick playmaking center'. It allows the skilled guy space to operate, and that skill allows the big bruisers to do work offensively, and really get rolling with some momentum behind them, where they become nearly impossible for most Defenders to handle. We don't really have either part of that mix right now.
Yeah, 'He's all that was available.' is hardly a ringing endorsement.
Agreed. A playmaking center in the more conventional mold who is good enough to justify moving Kesler to the Wing would be HUGE in boosting this team's ability to score in the playoffs. I wouldn't even say they need to be 'big', as per the above points. Just...'bigger than Roy'.
Weiss is certainly still an option.
The other guy that i keep coming back to, is Paul Stastny in Colorado, where things just aren't fitting right with the setup they have there and the young team they're building. If there was any way we could pry a guy like Stastny out of Colorado (who won't be in division next year), i think that's the sort of move that would radically change the composition of this team...in one move, opening up a ton of new options for the coach and line combinations, as well as truly providing what Gillis 'hoped' Roy might be able to offer...another player who can stand on their own as an offensive threat, no matter who you pair them with.
Pip
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Doubt it. MG just trying to cover himself and make it seem like he had no other choice. Maybe he was all that's available for a 2nd and a prospect. MG's just cheap. He always has been cheap. ffs, he couldn't even get torres.
What was he supposed to do with Torres? they had a better pick than us and we had no second rounder Were we supposed to give a first rounder?
y2kcanucks
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It's about time people started thinking like this! I've been saying this for years, and is the prime reason why I'm fully on board with relocation. It disgusts me when we have to pay ridiculous prices to go to a Canucks game, when people in Phoenix can go to a Coyotes game for $10 and still don't go.
If the Canucks raise prices and raise single game prices next year I guarantee next season will be the year our sell-out streak ends (barring a major acquisition that gets people excited).
It doesn't matter is AV is a bad coach or not; it is time for a change.
If what I read in the newspaper is true Canuck owners wanted AV gone last year, but Gillis talked them out of it.
Personally, I don't think Gillis can talk them out of it again. I predict that if Gillis somehow was able to keep AV, if they started to faulter come game time, it could be Gillis's head on a platter.
mrmyheadhurts
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Roy trade? What year was the 2nd rounder that we gave up for him? I don't remember if it was this years or next years.
Bourne Endeavor
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Maclean's bias has become increasingly worse. It is hardly uncommon for him to blatantly cut Friedman off should he have a point. Even Healy, moron that he usually is, has to deal with a similar degree of arrogance should he attempt to highlights points Maclean doesn't like. It's among the reasons CBC never discusses refs, praise notwithstanding.
Barney Gumble
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Who was this better choice for a 2nd line center that was dealt at the trading deadline?
So you would deal a 1st round pick for him?
Pip
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I was just watching old game footage of the 2003 Vancouver Canucks from their January 8, 2003 game against the Ottawa Senators. That team had a ton of grit. The bottom two lines featured Cooke-Linden-Lindgren, and Ruutu-Chubarov-Letowski. Both lines were quick, and smashed the opponent on every forecheck. They threw their weight around whenever they could, and had the skill and ability to score. Chubarov's skill was massively underrated, and he made a few excellent plays including a nice saucer pass to Ruutu. Ruutu, Linden, and Cooke all scored.
The top two lines, meanwhile, were very good. The West Coast Express line was dominant against the Senators. Morrison had the tenacity and speed to pursue pucks. Bertuzzi had the skill and size to make Chara's work in the crease difficult. Often, he would wrestle with Chara in the crease, creating havoc. He and Naslund had immense chemistry, and the two had several give-and-go plays. Markus had that game-breaking ability and patience as well. When the three of them started moving the puck along with Ohlund in the offensive zone, the opposing players had no idea how to contain them. Ed Jovanovski was injured, so they placed Sopel at the point. Salo and Allen were the point men on the second powerplay unit. At that point, Markus had goals in five straight games, points in nine games, four consecutive game-winning goals, and had scored 30 goals in the first 41 games of the season to lead the league.
Crawford was fiery as a coach, and the players had incredible jump. They looked fantastic, defeating the Ottawa Senators 6-4. Dan Cloutier nearly cost them the game with bad giveaways and long-range gaffes, but everyone in front of him played very well. On Cloutier's fourth goal against, John Garrett blamed Murray Baron for not blocking the shot rather than Cloutier for misplaying the shot. The team won in spite of Cloutier.
We lack the proper mix of players right now. That 2003 team was built well. The bottom two lines had skill, speed, grit, and determination. They hit anything in sight. The West Coast Express carried the play whenever they had the puck. Naslund and Morrison were quite defensively sound, and all three forwards on that line were physical; Markus nudged a few players off the puck, doing just enough to separate them from it and steal it. if Bertuzzi received it, he often led the rush starting from his own blue line; Naslund would often carry it out from his own zone into the offensive zone. They were very creative with their breakouts.
On the Sedins' line, Trent Klatt was often quite physical with the opposition, doing much of the dirty work while the twins moved the puck.
The 2012-13 team, in comparison, looks quite mediocre. I honestly think the team needs to be built like the 2003 team. They were aggressive, physical, intimidating, and had the skill to succeed. They looked better than most now give them credit for. Their primary downfall was their goaltending.
The top two lines, meanwhile, were very good. The West Coast Express line was dominant against the Senators. Morrison had the tenacity and speed to pursue pucks. Bertuzzi had the skill and size to make Chara's work in the crease difficult. Often, he would wrestle with Chara in the crease, creating havoc. He and Naslund had immense chemistry, and the two had several give-and-go plays. Markus had that game-breaking ability and patience as well. When the three of them started moving the puck along with Ohlund in the offensive zone, the opposing players had no idea how to contain them. Ed Jovanovski was injured, so they placed Sopel at the point. Salo and Allen were the point men on the second powerplay unit. At that point, Markus had goals in five straight games, points in nine games, four consecutive game-winning goals, and had scored 30 goals in the first 41 games of the season to lead the league.
Crawford was fiery as a coach, and the players had incredible jump. They looked fantastic, defeating the Ottawa Senators 6-4. Dan Cloutier nearly cost them the game with bad giveaways and long-range gaffes, but everyone in front of him played very well. On Cloutier's fourth goal against, John Garrett blamed Murray Baron for not blocking the shot rather than Cloutier for misplaying the shot. The team won in spite of Cloutier.
We lack the proper mix of players right now. That 2003 team was built well. The bottom two lines had skill, speed, grit, and determination. They hit anything in sight. The West Coast Express carried the play whenever they had the puck. Naslund and Morrison were quite defensively sound, and all three forwards on that line were physical; Markus nudged a few players off the puck, doing just enough to separate them from it and steal it. if Bertuzzi received it, he often led the rush starting from his own blue line; Naslund would often carry it out from his own zone into the offensive zone. They were very creative with their breakouts.
On the Sedins' line, Trent Klatt was often quite physical with the opposition, doing much of the dirty work while the twins moved the puck.
The 2012-13 team, in comparison, looks quite mediocre. I honestly think the team needs to be built like the 2003 team. They were aggressive, physical, intimidating, and had the skill to succeed. They looked better than most now give them credit for. Their primary downfall was their goaltending.
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Barney Gumble
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^ Cloutier wasn't great but he wasn't the *only* problem with that team. Blueline, while not horrible, simply wasn't good enough or of decent enough calibre even if Cloutier was just "average" to have any success in the playoffs.
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