Value of: Ekholm

[Soundgarden]

Nashville is probably going to be in sell mode this year and Ekholm is a good top pairing or a great 2nd pairing guy with lots of playoff experience who only makes 3.75 this year and next.

Curious what kind of package we can get for him, I figured something similar to the Muzzin deal, 1st plus two prospects, but because of Covid I'd be ok with including a reasonable cap dump/roster player coming back as well.

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[Flgatorguy87]

We should absolutely retain and take back if needed. Nashville should weaponize their cap space. Easy for me to say as it's not my money, but in theory they have opportunity to do this.

 

[Soundgarden]

We should absolutely retain and take back if needed. Nashville should weaponize their cap space. Easy for me to say as it's not my money, but in theory they have opportunity to do this.

Yes, that would certainly up the price if that's an option.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I expect the Bruins to be all over this guy.

 

[Soundgarden]

I expect the Bruins to be all over this guy.

They have a lot of interesting prospects and young guys for sure.

 

[preds1]

We should absolutely retain and take back if needed. Nashville should weaponize their cap space. Easy for me to say as it's not my money, but in theory they have opportunity to do this.

Then there better be more quality than a late 1st in a weak draft+ a bottom pair dman or 3rd liner.....both of which we have plenty of already.

 

[CraigsList]

Bruins would definitely be front runners.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I just wonder if David Poile will really give up that easily. I will basically believe he trades players with term left when I see it. Now, the impending-UFAs like Granlund, Haula... by all means, this is going to be a lost year and he might as well get whatever he can for them.

But I still don't see him doing what other teams think of as a rebuild/retool and trade off players with even a year of term left like Ekholm, because Poile in his head is just going to think the Preds will magically snap out of it and be competitive next season.

But if there are financial benefits that add on top of that, maybe he'll get a different directive. Even saving half the salary this year on some players might help cushion the massive losses the team might be expecting, so maybe in a lost year, ownership would rather pile on all the cushions they can, and direct Poile accordingly.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Muzzin type value no?
1st + two 2nds or two recently drafted 2nd round prospects or somewhat close to that.

Hoping Zito would call Stralman and Hornqvist to help convince Ekholm to make his way to FLA.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Muzzin type value no?
1st + two 2nds or two recently drafted 2nd round prospects or somewhat close to that.

Hoping Zito would call Stralman and Hornqvist to help convince Ekholm to make his way to FLA.

Why not Muzzin type value?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Why not Muzzin type value?

Yes, Muzzin type value

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Yes, Muzzin type value

ah, poor comprehension on my part

 

[HabsAddict]

If a team is desperate for a very good defenseman, they will pay a "Muzzin like" price.

People are forgetting or ignoring the Leafs situation when they traded for Muzzin. They were desperate and they overpaid.

Poster wet dreams aside, Bbinz highly values his prospects and picks. He wont part with them unless he wins the trade. Or at least breaks even. Plus we are far from any need to add to a pretty good defense. Lastly, Ekholm doesn't move us into a different catagory, just makes us a bit better. Preffer to pay for an impact forward...like Getzlaf.

Good luck with that "Muzzin like" return.

 

[Mrfenn92]

If a team is desperate for a very good defenseman, they will pay a "Muzzin like" price.

People are forgetting or ignoring the Leafs situation when they traded for Muzzin. They wete desperate and they overpaid.

Poster wet dreams aside, Bbinz highly values his prospects and picks. He wont part with them unless he wins the trade. Or at least breaks even. Plus we are far from any need to add to a pretty good defense. Lastly, Ekholm doesn't move us into a different catagory, just makes us a bit better. Preffer to pay for an impact forward...like Getzlaf.

Good luck with that "Muzzin like" return.

There are other teams besides yours

 

[Ziggdiezan]

If a team is desperate for a very good defenseman, they will pay a "Muzzin like" price.

People are forgetting or ignoring the Leafs situation when they traded for Muzzin. They were desperate and they overpaid.

Poster wet dreams aside, Bbinz highly values his prospects and picks. He wont part with them unless he wins the trade. Or at least breaks even. Plus we are far from any need to add to a pretty good defense. Lastly, Ekholm doesn't move us into a different catagory, just makes us a bit better. Preffer to pay for an impact forward...like Getzlaf.

Good luck with that "Muzzin like" return.

Why was the Muzzin signing an overpayment?

Muzzin type defenders return 1st+ at the deadline with less than a year on their deal most years. Muzzin had just under 2 years, tons of cup experience etc. Wouldn't say it was an overpayment at all

 

[Martin Skoula]

If a team is desperate for a very good defenseman, they will pay a "Muzzin like" price.

People are forgetting or ignoring the Leafs situation when they traded for Muzzin. They were desperate and they overpaid.

Poster wet dreams aside, Bbinz highly values his prospects and picks. He wont part with them unless he wins the trade. Or at least breaks even. Plus we are far from any need to add to a pretty good defense. Lastly, Ekholm doesn't move us into a different catagory, just makes us a bit better. Preffer to pay for an impact forward...like Getzlaf.

Good luck with that "Muzzin like" return.

In what way did they overpay? Established #2/3 defensemen with a year left under contract return between 1st + 2nd + 2nd to 1st + 1st + 2nd almost exclusively. Every defensemen that has been traded in the past decade that met those criteria has gotten that price almost exactly.

 

[Soundgarden]

If a team is desperate for a very good defenseman, they will pay a "Muzzin like" price.

People are forgetting or ignoring the Leafs situation when they traded for Muzzin. They were desperate and they overpaid.

Poster wet dreams aside, Bbinz highly values his prospects and picks. He wont part with them unless he wins the trade. Or at least breaks even. Plus we are far from any need to add to a pretty good defense. Lastly, Ekholm doesn't move us into a different catagory, just makes us a bit better. Preffer to pay for an impact forward...like Getzlaf.

Good luck with that "Muzzin like" return.

You've made your opinion known in the Montreal thread. If Montreal doesn't want to offer anything then Boston, Washington, Edmonton, Florida, or Colorado might be interested.

 

[Go Wings]

Like others have said it makes a lot of sense for Boston to acquire him. They have the picks and prospects and their window is now to win more cups.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

He'd be loved in Boston. For all the lack of hits talk, he has plenty of grit, a nasty streak, and when he is fed up he has no problem showing it.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Why was the Muzzin signing an overpayment?

Muzzin type defenders return 1st+ at the deadline with less than a year on their deal most years. Muzzin had just under 2 years, tons of cup experience etc. Wouldn't say it was an overpayment at all

In what way did they overpay? Established #2/3 defensemen with a year left under contract return between 1st + 2nd + 2nd to 1st + 1st + 2nd almost exclusively. Every defensemen that has been traded in the past decade that met those criteria has gotten that price almost exactly.

Because Muzzin isn't no Jeff Petry....that's why but I definitely agree with you both, Muzzin type value falls right in line for Ekholm, similar term left, similar age and productivity as a #3D.

 

[Mersss]

In what way did they overpay? Established #2/3 defensemen with a year left under contract return between 1st + 2nd + 2nd to 1st + 1st + 2nd almost exclusively. Every defensemen that has been traded in the past decade that met those criteria has gotten that price almost exactly.

Except Poster is looking for more than what the Leafs paid for Muzzin by asking Habs fans for the likes of Norlinder (WAYYY better prospect than what the Leafs traded)

As Said in the other thread

Habs would offer

1st + Poehling, 1st + 2nd + Fairbrother, 1st + 2nd + Hillis, 1st + 2nd + Ikonen, 1st + Fleurysomething along those lines

Not touching Caufield-Norlinder-Struble-Harris-Guhle-Brooks.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

He'd be loved in Boston. For all the lack of hits talk, he has plenty of grit, a nasty streak, and when he is fed up he has no problem showing it.

Definitely. I would actually much prefer we traded Ellis if one of them has to go (and with their ages, one of Josi, Ellis, Ekholm really do need to).

 

[Mrfenn92]

Except Poster is looking for more than what the Leafs paid for Muzzin by asking Habs fans for the likes of Norlinder (WAYYY better prospect than what the Leafs traded)

As Said in the other thread

Habs would offer

1st + Poehling, 1st + 2nd + Fairbrother, 1st + 2nd + Hillis, 1st + 2nd + Ikonen, 1st + Fleurysomething along those lines

Not touching Caufield-Norlinder-Struble-Harris-Guhle-Brooks.

That’s the Habs trade thread
You don’t have to like the ask nor meet it but the preds don’t have to say yes because that’s what your comfortable giving up
There are other teams in the league

 

[Mersss]

That’s the Habs trade thread
You don’t have to like the ask nor meet it but the preds don’t have to say yes because that’s what your comfortable giving up
There are other teams in the league

Not saying otherwhise, but hoping for more is dellusionnal, he won't fetch more in a shortened season with an ED coming up at the end of the season!

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

That’s the Habs trade thread
You don’t have to like the ask nor meet it but the preds don’t have to say yes because that’s what your comfortable giving up
There are other teams in the league

There are definitely sufficient existing threads for Habs fans to share what they are NOT going to offer for a Preds player.