Rumor: Ekblad available

[Asymmetric Solution]

Ristolainen and Victor Oloffsson for Ekblad?

 

[violaswallet]

Bouchard, Lavoie, 14 OA, 2021 1st and Russell

We turned down Klefblom, Bouchard and the 14th overall..

I think it is a lot of value, but doesn't really replace Ekblad. If we had to trade him immediately and wanted to blow up our team, I think package would be interesting though

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

is this still the analogy.. your logic is so clearly flawed

No it's not because you changed it. And then you accuse me of changing it. How dare you. Just take a deep breath, collect your thought and possibly try again.

 

[TeddyBare]

forgot he was a righty

that alone adds so much to the price.

 

[Cotton]

Maybe do a little research and see how else our owner makes money on the arena. Yes the panthers lose money but he doesn’t.

That’s kinda my entire point, my Finnish friend. When the team is in the red you need to cover the costs, so he’s actually eating into his profits by doing so. A smart businessman will eventually cut free from the anchor.

 

[violaswallet]

That’s kinda my entire point, my Finnish friend. When the team is in the red you need to cover the costs, so he’s actually eating into his profits by doing so. A smart businessman will eventually cut free from the anchor.

A smart businessman does not fire-sale his assets that have long-term value unless he has a liquidity crisis and cannot afford it. Ekblad provides an incredible amount of value for his contract as compared to say Stralman.

You cut the assets that you are bad values (benefits-costs).

His financial position shows that we do not have a liquidity crisis.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

This debate with you will lead to nowhere, you will defend him and I won't.

You haven't defended anything on your side. Show me some stats/metrics.
Your words and evaluation mean nothing without anything to back it up.

 

[Djp]

Could they be in the mix for Pietrangelo?

If they traded him they would.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

I’m not sure why draisaitl is involved in any conversation here. He is firmly ingrained in this community and lives and breathes hockey. I’m not sure he would be excited to play for a market like sunrise.

 

[violaswallet]

If they traded him they would.

That could be the only reason I could think for trading Ekblad, but even then I'm not so happy about: we'd be getting older and more expensive when we have Barkov/Huberdeau coming up for extensions

 

[violaswallet]

I’m not sure why draisaitl is involved in any conversation here. He is firmly ingrained in this community and lives and breathes hockey. I’m not sure he would be excited to play for a market like sunrise.

We bring it up to explain why rare players aren't reasonably traded for packages; we tried many times to explain it without examples but it seems like examples work best

 

[Vinman88]

To all who are inclined to have a young , well rounded RHD on the rise on a good contract. Draft your own guy and put in the years to maybe, possibly, have him turn out to be better than average and stay healthy also. Some of these proposals are just poor from the start. You don't get something for nothing.

 

[JohnHodgson]

With Matheson being one of the worst contracts in the NHL, could they be looking to package him with Ekblad?

From a Canucks perspective, I would be able to stomach Matheson if we could get Ekblad on a cheaper deal.

To Fla:
Boeser
Stecher
Eriksson

To Van:
Ekblad
Matheson

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

To all who are inclined to have a young , well rounded RHD on the rise on a good contract. Draft your own guy and put in the years to maybe, possibly, have him turn out to be better than average and stay healthy also. Some of these proposals are just poor from the start. You don't get something for nothing.

Hope you kept the same energy from the wacky drai + 1st for ekblad proposal lol. Anyways, I think if he wants to compete and play in full arenas, he should come back home somewhere in canada.

 

[Vinman88]

With Matheson being one of the worst contracts in the NHL, could they be looking to package him with Ekblad?

From a Canucks perspective, I would be able to stomach Matheson if we could get Ekblad on a cheaper deal.

To Fla:
Boeser
Stecher
Eriksson

To Van:
Ekblad
Matheson

What would you consider Erikssons deal? A ripe tomato

 

[The Moose is Loose]

No it's not because you changed it. And then you accuse me of changing it. How dare you. Just take a deep breath, collect your thought and possibly try again.

You think Draisaitl is worth less than Ekblad. At that point the outside factors don’t even matter because their values aren’t even close.

i think you’re just trolling at this point

 

[Hierso]

With Matheson being one of the worst contracts in the NHL, could they be looking to package him with Ekblad?

From a Canucks perspective, I would be able to stomach Matheson if we could get Ekblad on a cheaper deal.

To Fla:
Boeser
Stecher
Eriksson

To Van:
Ekblad
Matheson

Is Mathesons deal really that bad? He isn't great but he is sub 5m signed for a long term, if you compare it to really bad deal alá Jeff Skinner i just don't see it as one of the worst.

 

[Vinman88]

Hope you kept the same energy from the wacky drai + 1st for ekblad proposal lol. Anyways, I think if he wants to compete and play in full arenas, he should come back home somewhere in canada.

And maybe he can watch the Stanley Cup awarded to another sunbelt team from loonie Canada for another 27 years aye?

 

[JohnHodgson]

What would you consider Erikssons deal? A ripe tomato

Eriksson is only owed $5m in real cash for the next 2 years while retaining a $6m cap hit. It is actually a valuable contract for a team looking to cut costs.

Matheson is owed $30M in real cash for the next 6 years.

Both players are what they are, a bottom pairing dman / 4th line forward.

Eriksson can actually be a defensive forward and kill penalties whereas Matheson was basically unplayable this year in the playoffs.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Lmao, line every rumor from up north, I’ll wait for confirmation down here. There was a rumor we were cutting cap space from up north that was false

Heck Barkov and Ekblad are the last players that Florida would move. This is getting really

 

[TOGuy14]

Unless Marner can play Center and you're assuming that we're signing Pietrangelo, then please don't whine when people give TOR fans shit bc of their solipsism. Even if we swapped Ekblad for Marner to play 2C and signed Pietro at 9m x 7y, we're still taking on an ungodly amount of cap that would make even my own caveats untenable--let alone your original nonsense.

Cap doesn't matter to the Panthers, they aren't a cap team.

Marner is only owed 35M over the next 5 seasons. 7M per

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Sure: Just not elite enough to make it worth it. Bouchard is a good prospect, but not a clear top pairing defenseman on expectation. Florida already has a pick there.

Your offer makes sense if we are rebuilding. Otherwise we need an overpayment.

I get that. I made the offer as a suggestion more due to the financial side for Florida. Not soo much as a rebuilding move as a solid futures package with money savings. I wouldn't move Ekbald either but apparently the Panthers might be looking to rebuild and cut cost

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

A Marner - Ekblad swap as a basis interests me

Dude if Florida deals Ekblad, It's not going to be for a player making $3.4 million more then him. If Ekblad is truly on the market then ownership is probably cutting some cap not taking more on.

 

[FinlandPanther]

That’s kinda my entire point, my Finnish friend. When the team is in the red you need to cover the costs, so he’s actually eating into his profits by doing so. A smart businessman will eventually cut free from the anchor.

So he’s going to cut the Panthers and not get any money? I’m not sure you understand. It’s all or nothing.

 

[TOGuy14]

Dude if Florida deals Ekblad, It's not going to be for a player making $2.4 million more then him. If Ekblad is truly on the market then ownership is probably cutting some cap not taking more on.

Cap hits don't matter in Florida

Both are owed the same amount of money over the next five years