Proposal: EDM - PIT

[T1K]

Not happening unless we get someone better in return...

haha I wasn’t implying the OP trade as a basis of a RNH trade

 

[780il]

haha I wasn’t implying the OP trade as a basis of a RNH trade

Yeah ik just that if we were to trade him it would only make sense if we were getting someone better in return. On the Pens that's Guentzel/Crosby/Malkin. In other words no f***ing way.

 

[oilynutz]

You are aware that the Penguins gave up Archibald for nothing like 3 years ago, right? Archibald would be in the AHL if he was in the Penguins organization, he's definitely not better than any of their top-12 forwards (13 if you include Guentzel) and I have doubts he's better than Lafferty or Blandisi either.

Have you watched him recently? In his last 10 games he has 4 goals and 3 assists. He isn't an AHL player...

This trade would make the Oilers worse. Galchenyuk is bad on defence and doesn't play with tenacity.

I would consider a trade straight up Galchenyuk for Russell. I would not trade Archibald and a 2nd for a 3rd and a 5th...

 

[66-30-33]

Easy pass unless Oilers add their 1st round pick which they obviously wont. Russell is your mess.

 

[T1K]

Yeah ik just that if we were to trade him it would only make sense if we were getting someone better in return. On the Pens that's Guentzel/Crosby/Malkin. In other words no ****ing way.

Absolutely ridiculous logic. Why would the Pens consider trading any of those guys for RNH??? Lmao

Uh yeah, no **** you’d trade RNH for Sid

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

That's a yikes worthy proposal. Yikes.

God no from the Penguins POV. At least Galchenyuk's contract is done after this year, Russell is still under contract for another year after this. Definitely not.

Oof. Thought Russell was pending UFA as well. Yeah, Pens can’t do this.

 

[780il]

Absolutely ridiculous logic. Why would the Pens consider trading any of those guys for RNH??? Lmao

Uh yeah, no **** you’d trade RNH for Sid

If you read the whole post you would see the part where i said "no f***ing way"...
Symbolizing it would ever happen...

English is hard, not everyone gets it.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why do the Pens want to add Russell again? Like, I'm not even bothering with the other pieces of the OP proposal. I don't see any reason the Pens want Russell.

 

[JackFr]

Yeah no nice try.

 

[Tender Rip]

Have you watched him recently? In his last 10 games he has 4 goals and 3 assists. He isn't an AHL player...

I always liked Archibald. I also really liked Joe Vitale... and almost loved Letestu.
Its easy to like these guys as dirt cheap 4th liners you expect nothing from, when you get speed and hustle and a bit of production.

But while Archibald might be in the lineup on an injury ravaged Pens team, he would at most be a 4th liner, and he wouldn't play when we're healthy. Never mind a nice hot streak now. Brian Gibbons has had a couple of those also, and now he is back in the AHL, because that's who he is. I would be very surprised if it is not also the direction on Archibald - either when Edmonton gets forward depth one day, or when he is traded to a team that has it.

 

[King1s]

No to Galchenyuk

 

[wej20]

Why do the Pens want to add Russell again? Like, I'm not even bothering with the other pieces of the OP proposal. I don't see any reason the Pens want Russell.

Russell is definitely redundant here with JJ actually playing decently. Trying to get the most out of both JJ and Russell seems like tempting fate.

 

[thadd]

You are aware that the Penguins gave up Archibald for nothing like 3 years ago, right? Archibald would be in the AHL if he was in the Penguins organization, he's definitely not better than any of their top-12 forwards (13 if you include Guentzel) and I have doubts he's better than Lafferty or Blandisi either.

You've got a gift for stating the obvious.
James Neal was useless to the Calgary Flames and he's probably going to score 30 goals with the Oilers this year.
We'd seriously love to another another 1 or 2 Archibalds on our team.
While Kassian was injured Archi looked good around the net.
Dude plays a mean game and he's one of the big reasons why our PK has been so damn good this year.
I'd be very excited if we could lock him up for 3 years for 1M per season.
Given his lack of value it would be down right stupid for Edmonton to trade him given how he has much more value to the Oilers than his perceived value to all the other teams in the NHL.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

That's a yikes worthy proposal. Yikes.

God no from the Penguins POV. At least Galchenyuk's contract is done after this year, Russell is still under contract for another year after this. Definitely not.

Yeah but Jack Johnson needs a buddy.

 

[T1K]

If you read the whole post you would see the part where i said "no ****ing way"...
Symbolizing it would ever happen...

English is hard, not everyone gets it.

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[thadd]

Russell is definitely redundant here with JJ actually playing decently. Trying to get the most out of both JJ and Russell seems like tempting fate.

Yeah, probably.
It sucks having a guy the knows his own limitations, makes good decisions in the defensive zone, pastes guys with clean hits, stays out of the penalty box and is consistently among the league leaders in shots blocked.
I highly doubt he's even on the trade table given how he's got a limited NMC and 1 year left on his contract after this season.
Again, Penguins would probably be better off trying to pry Larsson away.

 

[wej20]

Yeah, probably.
It sucks having a guy the knows his own limitations, makes good decisions in the defensive zone, pastes guys with clean hits, stays out of the penalty box and is consistently among the league leaders in shots blocked.
I highly doubt he's even on the trade table given how he's got a limited NMC and 1 year left on his contract after this season.
Again, Penguins would probably be better off trying to pry Larsson away.

Pens have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side, no need for Larsson.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

No.

 

[Peat]

Oof. Thought Russell was pending UFA as well. Yeah, Pens can’t do this.

Eh. I reckon you could probably move Russell relatively easy as a 1 year rental in the summer, particularly if the team was willing to pay his signing bonus first, so the acquiring team were getting 4m worth of cap hit for 1.5m worth of actual salary (coughOttawacough). Only problem is he'd have a 15 team trade list.

I'm not sure this trade really improve us all that much, and I'm not sure how much is left in Russell's tank, but I do like the value. To the point I can't imagine Edmonton actually doing it.

 

[Jerkbait]

Trade not bad but too complicated. Alex G will fetch a 3rd alone. Dont need Russel at this time.

 

[thadd]

Pens have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side, no need for Larsson.

You've got a good point. Russel is a lefty, but a lot of people will argue that he's better on the right side so this proposal doesn't really make sense for either team, right?

 

[BHD]

Hard pass. The Pens already have Johnson.

 

[TFHockey]

Pens have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side, no need for Larsson.

Ouch.

 

[TFHockey]

To PIT
Kris Russel
Josh Archibald
2020 2nd (EDM)

To EDM
Alex Galchenyuk
2020 3rd (PIT)
2020 5th (PIT)

I want to be blunt here.. say what you want about Archibald being an AHLer or Russell having too large a contract, but I don't doubt their commitment to the game of hockey. I absolutely doubt Galchenyuks.

He is obviously the most talented player in this deal and somehow he is the worst player in it.

 

[McSuper]

To PIT
Kris Russel
Josh Archibald
2020 2nd (EDM)

To EDM
Alex Galchenyuk
2020 3rd (PIT)
2020 5th (PIT)

The only thing I would change would be Archibald out and another piece in . Granlund ? Khaira ?