Proposal: EDM-MTL (Warning: RNH)

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  1. Kobe Armstrong

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    To Edmonton:

    Paul Byron
    2018 first
    Michael McCarron

    To Montreal:
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

    Fair? Over/underpayment?
     
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    I think oilers decline
     
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    JOKER 192 Me for President

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    So 1st OA

    for

    Waiver wire player

    late 1st

    1ST round bust.
     
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    I don't think draft position should matter, look a what Yakupov was traded for. RNH would rank 9th out of 10 among the last 10 first OA picks (not including this years).

    That being said, Oilers say no.
     
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    BleedBlue14 UrGeNcY

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    1st OA holds no merit on RNHs value. Just say good 2C instead. RNH is no McDavid. That being said though the pieces from MTL are essentially roster scraps that you can find for a dime a dozen aside from a probably late first.
     
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    RNH may not be a worth a whole lot, but McCarron is a bust and a late 1st round pick + Byron doesn't get it done.
     
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    No no no no.
     
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    That 2018 first, in potentially the best draft since 2003, might be too much for the Habs to give up?
     
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    MTL seems like they are in win now mode. I think if they have a shot to upgrade their roster at especially the center position the (probably late) first is expendable.
     
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    Since the 1st Rounder will likely be a top 15 in a strong draft year, I would do it.
     
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    If the Habs acquired RNH, the pick would be bottom 15.
     
  12. Empoleon8771

    Empoleon8771 It's Sprong's Fault

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    Replace Byron with Danault and I think Edmonton would do that deal.
     
  13. Kobe Armstrong

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    2016-17 stats:

    Paul Byron: 81 games, 22 goals, 21 assists, +21
    RNH: 82 games, 18 goals, 25 assists, -10

    Byron also has a steal of a contract at 1.1 million while RNH has a 6 million dollar deal.

    Nuge also played 250 more minutes than Byron, and scored 8 less even strength goals. RNH is also producing less on a much higher scoring team than Byron, and isn't nearly as good on the PK.
     
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    No way Oilers consider this
     
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    #weakpost

    Edmonton traded the first overall for a 3rd round pick, they sure got fleeced huh?
     
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    There's this thing called quality of competition. It's where one guy goes head to head with the elite forwards in this league and the other plays soft minutes and feeds off of lesser opponents. I'll let you guess which one does which.
     
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    So why do you add to Byron then if he is so good?
     
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    Byron played on our shutdown line and scored 4 shorthanded goals the past 2 seasons
     
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    Isn't it obvious? Montreal needs a center and is deep on LW. Centers have more value than wingers. I'm just posting the stats as proof that they have a similar impact on the ice currently
     
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    Bad for Edmonton.
     
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    I just don't see the urgency for the Oilers to want to do this.

    McDavid's extension does not kick in for a year, might as well have center depth, having RNH means McLellan can play McDavid and Draisaitl together for stretches if he wants, so I don't see the Oilers bailing on that.

    RNH is a player that will draw interest from plenty of other teams next summer IMO. Vegas, Arizona, Colorado, Vancouver, San Jose, and others would have interest in him on top of Montreal obviously.
     
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    So if Crosby's on the ice, Julien is throwing out Paul Byron, is he? Paul Byron is a depth left winger who had a career year last season. I'd be shocked to see him duplicate it. I actually like the guy, but in no world are these two comparable. If Paul Byron had RNH's workload from last season the Oilers probably would've missed the playoffs.
     
  23. Julio Jones

    Julio Jones It was 28-3 ffs

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    montreal will have a high pick no matter what so edm will do it
     
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    A91 Oilers + Real Madrid

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    Ha. No
     
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    I don't think MTL's pick will be that high to be honest. A Claude Julien team with Carey Price is getting 90 points in a regular season minimum.

    Now what they do in the playoffs is a different story altogether, but regular season wise I don't see them being bad at all.
     

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