Proposal: EDM-MTL (Warning: RNH)

BleedBlue14

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So 1st OA

for

Waiver wire player

late 1st

1ST round bust.

1st OA holds no merit on RNHs value. Just say good 2C instead. RNH is no McDavid. That being said though the pieces from MTL are essentially roster scraps that you can find for a dime a dozen aside from a probably late first.
 

Kcb12345

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To Edmonton:

Paul Byron
2018 first
Michael McCarron

To Montreal:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Fair? Over/underpayment?

RNH may not be a worth a whole lot, but McCarron is a bust and a late 1st round pick + Byron doesn't get it done.
 

Fatass

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To Edmonton:

Paul Byron
2018 first
Michael McCarron

To Montreal:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Fair? Over/underpayment?

That 2018 first, in potentially the best draft since 2003, might be too much for the Habs to give up?
 

BleedBlue14

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That 2018 first, in potentially the best draft since 2003, might be too much for the Habs to give up?

MTL seems like they are in win now mode. I think if they have a shot to upgrade their roster at especially the center position the (probably late) first is expendable.
 

Kobe Armstrong

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2016-17 stats:

Paul Byron: 81 games, 22 goals, 21 assists, +21
RNH: 82 games, 18 goals, 25 assists, -10

Byron also has a steal of a contract at 1.1 million while RNH has a 6 million dollar deal.

Nuge also played 250 more minutes than Byron, and scored 8 less even strength goals. RNH is also producing less on a much higher scoring team than Byron, and isn't nearly as good on the PK.
 

belair

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2016-17 stats:

Paul Byron: 81 games, 22 goals, 21 assists, +21
RNH: 82 games, 18 goals, 25 assists, -10

Byron also has a steal of a contract at 1.1 million while RNH has a 6 million dollar deal.

Nuge also played 250 more minutes than Byron, and scored 8 less even strength goals. RNH is also producing less on a much higher scoring team than Byron, and isn't nearly as good on the PK.

There's this thing called quality of competition. It's where one guy goes head to head with the elite forwards in this league and the other plays soft minutes and feeds off of lesser opponents. I'll let you guess which one does which.
 

howkie

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2016-17 stats:

Paul Byron: 81 games, 22 goals, 21 assists, +21
RNH: 82 games, 18 goals, 25 assists, -10

Byron also has a steal of a contract at 1.1 million while RNH has a 6 million dollar deal.

Nuge also played 250 more minutes than Byron, and scored 8 less even strength goals. RNH is also producing less on a much higher scoring team than Byron, and isn't nearly as good on the PK.

So why do you add to Byron then if he is so good?
 

Kobe Armstrong

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There's this thing called quality of competition. It's where one guy goes head to head with the elite forwards in this league and the other plays soft minutes and feeds off of lesser opponents. I'll let you guess which one does which.

Byron played on our shutdown line and scored 4 shorthanded goals the past 2 seasons
 

Kobe Armstrong

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So why do you add to Byron then if he is so good?

Isn't it obvious? Montreal needs a center and is deep on LW. Centers have more value than wingers. I'm just posting the stats as proof that they have a similar impact on the ice currently
 

Soundwave

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I just don't see the urgency for the Oilers to want to do this.

McDavid's extension does not kick in for a year, might as well have center depth, having RNH means McLellan can play McDavid and Draisaitl together for stretches if he wants, so I don't see the Oilers bailing on that.

RNH is a player that will draw interest from plenty of other teams next summer IMO. Vegas, Arizona, Colorado, Vancouver, San Jose, and others would have interest in him on top of Montreal obviously.
 

belair

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Byron played on our shutdown line and scored 4 shorthanded goals the past 2 seasons

So if Crosby's on the ice, Julien is throwing out Paul Byron, is he? Paul Byron is a depth left winger who had a career year last season. I'd be shocked to see him duplicate it. I actually like the guy, but in no world are these two comparable. If Paul Byron had RNH's workload from last season the Oilers probably would've missed the playoffs.
 

Soundwave

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I don't think MTL's pick will be that high to be honest. A Claude Julien team with Carey Price is getting 90 points in a regular season minimum.

Now what they do in the playoffs is a different story altogether, but regular season wise I don't see them being bad at all.
 

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