Proposal: EDM & MIN

[rockinghockey]

MIN is looking at making some moves I was thinking Zucker to EDM.
What would it take get Zucker in EDM. He would look good in EDMs top 6 plus he is signed long term.

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[DeagleJenkins]

MIN is looking at making some moves I was thinking Zucker to EDM.
What would it take get Zucker in EDM. He would look good in EDMs top 6 plus he is signed long term.

picks and or prospects. depends how you view him? having a down year as is the entire team after a career year last year. with his contract are you needing to send cap back?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

This feels like a set up......let me guess, you offer us coffee and we wake up handcuffed to Lucic?

 

[Sota Popinski]

First off this isn't a proposal. This is a 'value of' thread.

I would say Yamamoto and Bear, but it would be tough because Zucker makes $5.5 million per and the Oilers don't have any cap space. Minnesota would have to take back contracts and the Oilers don't have many expirings.

 

[Rask Decisions]

Something comparable in value to Victor Rask. You could probably talk Fenton into taking Lucic with $1-2 million retained.

 

[redwings25]

mn doesnt need yam or bear. they need somone who can put the puck in the net. zucker is decent at it, better than anyone then the oil would trade. so this goes nowhere.

 

[Bazeek]

I wouldn't mind sending Zucker to the Oilers, but I have a hard time thinking of what we'd want back. Especially anything that'd work cap-wise.

Edit: I'd do it for Sekera and the 2019 1st. The Oilers, I suspect, would not.

 

[HolyGhost]

MIN is looking at making some moves I was thinking Zucker to EDM.
What would it take get Zucker in EDM. He would look good in EDMs top 6 plus he is signed long term.

Klefbom?

 

[cwede]

So you want people to propose 'value' for the player coming back, while ignoring EO's extreme Cap contraints?

 

[TFHockey]

Klefbom?

That's way too much. Look at how our D is without Klefbom. Yikes.

 

[HolyGhost]

That's way too much. Look at how our D is without Klefbom. Yikes.

Money wise. Other than that can not be done

 

[TFHockey]

Money wise. Other than that can not be done

Money has to move, totally agree with you. However the Oilers lose a Zucker - Klefbom trade. They're just too thin on the back end.

At least the team has some good prospects coming. Jones, Bear and Lagesson maybe aren't ready for the prime time yet but they're close. It's good to seem home grown prospects actually do well.

 

[AKL]

I wouldn't mind sending Zucker to the Oilers, but I have a hard time thinking of what we'd want back. Especially anything that'd work cap-wise.

Edit: I'd do it for Sekera and the 2019 1st. The Oilers, I suspect, would not.

The 1st would be about the only enticing thing they could offer for him other than the three obvious players. In my eyes.

 

[HolyGhost]

Money has to move, totally agree with you. However the Oilers lose a Zucker - Klefbom trade. They're just too thin on the back end.

At least the team has some good prospects coming. Jones, Bear and Lagesson maybe aren't ready for the prime time yet but they're close. It's good to seem home grown prospects actually do well.

Deal only makes sense if either Larsson or Klefbom are included.

 

[Bazeek]

The 1st would be about the only enticing thing they could offer for him other than the three obvious players. In my eyes.

Yeah, it's hard. I can actually see taking Sekera back to make the cap work: it's a big contract but we could probably ride it out for 2 years and play him on the second pairing next to Spurgeon. It'd allow us to move Brodin for a possible Zucker replacement up front. The defense is worse and more expensive, but it shakes up the forwards a little. It's just hard to think of anything from Edmonton besides the 1st that'd make it worth our while.

 

[AKL]

Deal only makes sense if either Larsson or Klefbom are included.

Makes sense for who? The Wild don’t really need either of those players.

 

[ref19]

RNH for Zucker would be interesting.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

RNH for Zucker would be interesting.

I would be very afraid of what the add from our end would have to be.

 

[Bazeek]

I would be very afraid of what the add from our end would have to be.

I bet they'd like a replacement center back. Someone around the same age that's had a few 45-ish point seasons.

 

[rockinghockey]

I don’t see Tucker being worth a top 5 pick as that is where I see that pick being.
Sekera has looked good in his first game back. Very good with that first pass. We would want Zucker to play with RNH.
Sekera, 2nd and a prospect like Bear/or one of our prospects coming up from CHL.
I don’t see Sekera as having negative value.
Lucic can’t see any GM taking thst contract back.

 

[Bazeek]

I don’t see Tucker being worth a top 5 pick as that is where I see that pick being.
Sekera has looked good in his first game back. Very good with that first pass. We would want Zucker to play with RNH.
Sekera, 2nd and a prospect like Bear/or one of our prospects coming up from CHL.
I don’t see Sekera as having negative value.
Lucic can’t see any GM taking thst contract back.

I wouldn't say that Sekera has negative value, but it seems like Edmonton's overloaded at LD and needs to shed cap so he'd be a nice one for them to part with. At least that's how it looks from afar. And Minnesota would need some incentive to take him back.

Still, I agree that it's hard to see Zucker and some cap relief being worth a top-5 pick. If our 1st was in the 20's like it usually is I'd offer to add it, but I'm not sure it'll be far behind Edmonton's at this rate. Maybe our 2nd? Probably doesn't work regardless.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Deal only makes sense if either Larsson or Klefbom are included.

There has been talk of picks and prospects. That doesn't mean salary going back has to be Larsson or Klefbom. Jeez.

 

[57special]

This feels like a set up......let me guess, you offer us coffee and we wake up handcuffed to Lucic?

 

[57special]

Yeah, EDM can't afford to give up any of their decent players, and don't have any cap space to send back only picks and prospects. They might do (just brainstorming, here)Pulju, a 2nd, and Russel/Sekera, as the cap numbers sort of work out. I do think that Zucker is a good player, and MIGHT be an answer for the forward depth that EDM so desperately needs. Not having to give up Klefbom, Bouchard, or Nurse would be key for them.

At this point, MN would be giving up on the season, and hoping that Pulju can be turned into something useful in the long run.

I don't think either team will be crazy about the trade, but realistically, what do they expect? Personally, I would hate to trade our fastest player (Zucker) and have him explode in EDM just like Nino has down in CAR. As good as Aho is, Draisaitl and McDavid are better.

There is something very Raskian about Puljujarvi.

 

[57special]

Klefbom?

EDM needs Klefbom far more than MN does. MN has Suter and Brodin at LHD, and Seeler is a decent, budget friendly option on the 3rd pairing.