Rumor: EDM - COL - STL: Mentioned by Friedman

[TheNumber4]

Has there been a thread on this rumor that Friedman mentioned in his 30 thoughts yet? I haven't seen one.

Stauffer who leaked the Larsson info also mentioned today on radio for Oilers fans to keep their eyes on Colorado.

So here's the rumour from Friedman:

Crazy proposal that made its way through the NHL on Tuesday: Tyson Barrie to Edmonton, Shattenkirk to Colorado and one of the Edmonton forwards (Hall? Jordan Eberle?) to St. Louis. The problem is some people are convinced this was someone’s concoction to see how fast it could get around.

This builds on the previous rumour that the STL GM wanted Eberle or Hall for Shatty. But considering Shatty can decide where he wants to go essentially with his ability to agree to or not agree to any extension this might work.

I think this trade works for all 3 teams. Colorado fans might need to chime in though.

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[Balthazar]

Besides, considering age (24 vs 27) and status (2 more RFA years for Barrie) I'd take Barrie over Shatty 10 times out of 10. Shatty will ask for even more money than Barrie so it'd be a pointless trade even if it was possible.

 

[TheNumber4]

Besides, considering age (24 vs 27) and status (2 more RFA years for Barrie) I'd take Barrie over Shatty 10 times out of 10. Shatty will ask for even more money than Barrie so it'd be a pointless trade even if it was possible.

That makes sense. Thanks for posting this. Probably a rumour without teeth then.

 

[FightingIrish17]

Maybe something around Barrie for Nugent-Hopkins. But I'm not sure COL wants to give up on Barrie, and I'm not sure if the Oilers want to move RNH now (at least not until seeing how the offence bounces back without Hall).

 

[CB Joe]

Colorado can't give up Barrie without a defenseman coming back.

 

[Balthazar]

Colorado can't give up Barrie without a defenseman coming back.

Sakic has been (reportedly) trying to acquire a top D via trade (using Duchene as a bait, maybe). If he can do it then Barrie for RNH makes a lot of sense. Otherwise, I agree with you. AVS aren't trading Barrie for a forward without getting some serious help at D first.

 

[TheNumber4]

Avs Fans: So if there's a chance Shatty signs in Colorado happily. Would you swap Barrie for Shatty?

 

[CB Joe]

Avs Fans: So if there's a chance Shatty signs in Colorado happily. Would you swap Barrie for Shatty?

Whats the point? He's basically just a slightly older left handed Barrie.

 

[TheNumber4]

Whats the point? He's basically just a slightly older left handed Barrie.

That's how I view it too. So why is Sakic not sold on Barrie?

 

[The Merchant]

Avs Fans: So if there's a chance Shatty signs in Colorado happily. Would you swap Barrie for Shatty?

Bit too much of a lateral move IMO.

 

[Got One Cup]

I understand Colorado fans saying it is a lateral move but Shattenkirk does put up more pts and runs a power play better than Barrie. Maybe that is enough incentive? Don't take this as bashing Barrie, he's a good young dman I would have no problem taking on my team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I understand Colorado fans saying it is a lateral move but Shattenkirk does put up more pts and runs a power play better than Barrie. Maybe that is enough incentive? Don't take this as bashing Barrie, he's a good young dman I would have no problem taking on my team.

And Barrie drives the play better at even strength.


Avs fans would much rather have Barrie at 5.5-6.0M over Shattenkirk at 7M. In our eyes they're basically the same player but Barrie is younger and likely looking for less money.



EDIT: As for the RNH/Barrie swap. That's another trade that makes less then no sense for the Avs. We have tonnes of Center depth and just drafted another Center in Jost in this years draft.

 

[Pierre Dagenais]

Whats the point? He's basically just a slightly older left handed Barrie.

he's a righty

 

[shadow1]

Avs Fans: So if there's a chance Shatty signs in Colorado happily. Would you swap Barrie for Shatty?

Yep. Shattenkirk is slightly better.

 

[gdsmack267]

Why is it the Avs cant add a D man to go along with Barrie? Why all this trade Barrie talk? You have the worst D core in the NHL. Might be smart to keep your best one

 

[CanadienShark]

Whats the point? He's basically just a slightly older left handed Barrie.

*Right handed

 

[tucker3434]

Avs not willing to Barrie, so they trade and pay for a more expensive version? No thanks.

 

[rumrokh]

Why is it the Avs cant add a D man to go along with Barrie? Why all this trade Barrie talk? You have the worst D core in the NHL. Might be smart to keep your best one

It doesn't make sense if they're dealing Barrie for a forward. It does make some sense if they're replacing Barrie with a better two-way defenseman. As good as he is, I definitely understand not wanting to spend that kind of money on a player with his flaws. If the Avalanche had a balanced core that was ready to contend and he could put them over the top, that's one thing, but I understand the belief that he's not a player to build around.

 

[Got One Cup]

Why is it the Avs cant add a D man to go along with Barrie? Why all this trade Barrie talk? You have the worst D core in the NHL. Might be smart to keep your best one

Maybe they are shopping Barrie+ to try to bring back a better dman?

 

[Evergreen]

Whats the point? He's basically just a slightly older left handed Barrie.

Shattenkirk is a righty.

 

[gdsmack267]

Maybe they are shopping Barrie+ to try to bring back a better dman?

My point is stop trying to upgrade Barrie. Move one of the top end forwards for a solid #2-3 D man so you can have Barrie + the new guy

 

[stpn47]

Why is it the Avs cant add a D man to go along with Barrie? Why all this trade Barrie talk? You have the worst D core in the NHL. Might be smart to keep your best one

Thankfully there's no chance at all that we would trade Erik Johnson

 

[shadow1]

My point is stop trying to upgrade Barrie. Move one of the top end forwards for a solid #2-3 D man so you can have Barrie + the new guy

Colorado is using both its top prospects (Bigras and Zadorov) in bigger roles this year (per Sakic).

So I don't think we will see them bulk up the blue line much.

 

[Ivan13]

I understand Colorado fans saying it is a lateral move but Shattenkirk does put up more pts and runs a power play better than Barrie. Maybe that is enough incentive? Don't take this as bashing Barrie, he's a good young dman I would have no problem taking on my team.

He does?

Anyway the proposed deal is terrible from Avs POV.

 

[gdsmack267]

Thankfully there's no chance at all that we would trade Erik Johnson

They're equal in my eyes. Just different type of players.