Series Talk: ECSF-Florida Panthers vs Boston Bruins (FLA leads 3-2)

[Chaos2k7]

Missed the game tonight but I hope Reinhart is ok.

Stitches for sure, took that puck straight in the chicklets

 

[iam76]

2 shots on goal in the third...

 

[Chaos2k7]

 

[TD Charlie]

Heavily scrutinized

 

[tarheelhockey]

Just my 2 cents, but it’s wild that they allowed that goal to stand.

Specifically, Swayman’s blocker hand was coming up to make an attempt at the puck until Coyle pushed it back down, locking the goalie stick into their bodies as well. Swayman has a right to try and get that stick out there and make the save — the rulebook is explicit on that point. Just a completely botched call with massive repercussions for the entire season.

Plays like this are why the NHL needs to reduce the amount of video review. They’re telling the fans that the review will make the calls right, but way too often they actually make the situation worse by amplifying the outrage and leaving no excuse for a head-scratcher like this one.

 

[The don godfather]

Just my 2 cents, but it’s wild that they allowed that goal to stand.

Specifically, Swayman’s blocker hand was coming up to make an attempt at the puck until Coyle pushed it back down, locking the goalie stick into their bodies as well. Swayman has a right to try and get that stick out there and make the save — the rulebook is explicit on that point. Just a completely botched call with massive repercussions for the entire season.

Plays like this are why the NHL needs to reduce the amount of video review. They’re telling the fans that the review will make the calls right, but way too often they actually make the situation worse by amplifying the outrage and leaving no excuse for a head-scratcher like this one.

Hurts as a bruins fan we got robbed tonight. Anyways hopefully it evens out and Bruins continue to play more hockey.

 

[TotalHomer]

It's not like Boston was going to win this game anyway. The refs just though it would be better to accelerate the process.

100% Swayman wasn't going to make the save anyway. Good call.

 

[Ducati Boy]

No GI call was bad but that’s no excuse for Boston to allow Barkov to waltz through their team a minute later.

 

[HabzSauce]

It's not like Boston was going to win this game anyway. The refs just though it would be better to accelerate the process.



100% Swayman wasn't going to make the save anyway. Good call.

Yea Boston is getting crushed in this series

 

[BTO]

In too many threads to know if the actual rule has been posted but here ya go:


Translation: pushing a defender into his goaltender is the same thing as making contact with the goaltender yourself. Might be nice if the refs knew the rule. Or the situation room in Toron I mean Garry Bettman’s office.

 

[TD Charlie]

It's not like Boston was going to win this game anyway. The refs just though it would be better to accelerate the process.



100% Swayman wasn't going to make the save anyway. Good call.

Is that part in the books?

I thought it was just “contact preventing the goalie from making a play on the puck” which it absolutely did.

100 percent is also hyperbole. He was juuuust about down and out, but not entirely. Still had a shot to get a stick on it prior to contact

 

[Chaos2k7]

It's not like Boston was going to win this game anyway. The refs just though it would be better to accelerate the process.



100% Swayman wasn't going to make the save anyway. Good call.

It was 50/50 in my mind, those calls always are, but it was such a contrasting take to the TNT crew, thought I would share it.

 

[TD Charlie]

No GI call was bad but that’s no excuse for Boston to allow Barkov to waltz through their team a minute later.

Hell of a play by Barkov on that. Boston could never.

 

[BTO]

It was 50/50 in my mind, those calls always are, but it was such a contrasting take to the TNT crew, thought I would share it.

It’s not 50/50. Read the rule.

 

[tarheelhockey]

He was juuuust about down and out, but not entirely. Still had a shot to get a stick on it prior to contact

That’s my issue with the call. It doesn’t matter if the goalie is 99% out of the play. If he still has a shot at the puck — and Swayman did have a shot at extending his stick to make that save — then he has an absolute right to make that play unimpeded. It might only be a 1% chance, but it is a chance denied due to interference, and that makes it a no-goal.

This is pretty clear cut in the rulebook. They flat out botched it.

 

[TotalHomer]

100 percent is also hyperbole. He was juuuust about down and out, but not entirely. Still had a shot to get a stick on it prior to contact

I don't see it, Bennett had the entire net open there. Either way it was the slightest push and for them to overturn it has to be conclusive.

 

[Chaos2k7]

It’s not 50/50. Read the rule.

When they called it a goal on the ice, you knew they would have a harder time overturning it, they hate going against the on ice officials normally

 

[TotalHomer]

It was 50/50 in my mind, those calls always are, but it was such a contrasting take to the TNT crew, thought I would share it.

Yeah so again, it's not conclusive when you clearly have people with different opinions about it. You can't overturn the call based on that. If it had been called a no goal on the ice, different story.

 

[TD Charlie]

That’s my issue with the call. It doesn’t matter if the goalie is 99% out of the play. If he still has a shot at the puck — and Swayman did have a shot at extending his stick to make that save — then he has an absolute right to make that play unimpeded. It might only be a 1% chance, but it is a chance denied due to interference, and that makes it a no-goal.

This is pretty clear cut in the rulebook. They flat out botched it.

Yeah, no sense trying to accurately quantify it. It’s either 0 or more than 0. It seemed insanely obvious to me that Swayman had more than a 0 percent chance to get there

 

[BTO]

When they called it a goal on the ice, you knew they would have a harder time ouverturning it, they hate going against the on ice officials normally

Yes, I didn’t think they would overturn it either. Regardless, they got it wrong. Shocker. Got Bennett’s fist to Marchand’s head wrong too. Florida f***ing Angels.

 

[iam76]

 

[TD Charlie]

I don't see it, Bennett had the entire net open there. Either way it was the slightest push and for them to overturn it has to be conclusive.

It was enough of a push the Coyle turned left and accelerated. He was gliding toward the front of Swayman, then gets hit in the back and hangs a left into Swayman?

A push is a push. It was enough that it put Coyle into Swayman, who couldn’t move the right arm or right leg.

Bennet probably scores regardless (although then we could argue they missed a crosscheck on him to separate from Coyle more, but I’ll ignore that part) but probably means it’s enough to pull that off the board

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

lmao at that first reporter's voice breaking

 

[TotalHomer]

It was enough of a push the Coyle turned left and accelerated. He was gliding toward the front of Swayman, then gets hit in the back and hangs a left into Swayman?

A push is a push. It was enough that it put Coyle into Swayman, who couldn’t move the right arm or right leg.

Bennet probably scores regardless (although then we could argue they missed a crosscheck on him to separate from Coyle more, but I’ll ignore that part) but probably means it’s enough to pull that off the board

Look at the commentary in the post #1353. That's a different view.

Again, if it had been called a no goal on the ice I think they would've kept the call as a no goal. You can say they botched the call and that's fine but it's the slightest push that happens all the time around the crease.

 

[BTO]

Yeah so again, it's not conclusive when you clearly have people with different opinions about it. You can't overturn the call based on that. If it had been called a no goal on the ice, different story.

Have you read the rule? It has zero to do with impeding Swayman’s ability to play the puck. Bennett shoving Coyle into Swayman is the exact same thing, according to the rule, as if he went into the crease and initiated contact with Swayman himself. Did Geekie impede Bobrovsky’s ability to play the puck? No, there was no puck (!). Rather, he initiated contact with Bobrovsky, which “for the purpose of the rule” (according to the very wording of the rule itself) is precisely what Bennett did (and also, while we’re at it, apparently what Lauko did last game). But, you know, you can go ahead and read it for yourself.