Series Talk: ECQF: Carolina Hurricanes vs New York Islanders (CAR Leads 3-1)

[LetsgoCanes]

Should win 4 before you start to flex.

Your assessment is dying on the vine.....

 

[Fire Sweeney]

This has to be the end for Patty Roy.

 

[Borsig]

Damn, feels so bad for the Islanders... you are the better team, play better, but your opponent getting the W's...

Every single reaction to this post is a laugh. Oof.

 

[Extra Texture]

I’m just shocked at how completely the Canes have manhandled the Isles, who were on fire at 8-1-1 to grab their playoff spot. I never thought all that momentum NYI had built would translate to absolutely nothing

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Since we are talking about everything the Isles fans have said or done, why dont we also bring up the Canes fans who posted pictures of the 9/11 World Trade Center attack? I would say that is pretty sick too, no?

Its a social media influencer whose sole goal is drive up attention to his profile for money. Its the sad state of affairs that is the social media. The more controversial the post, the more attention it gets. Some people have no morals when it comes to trying to make money

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I’m just shocked at how completely the Canes have manhandled the Isles, who were on fire at 8-1-1 to grab their playoff spot. I never thought all that momentum NYI had built would translate to absolutely nothing

They've made the games close though, outside of empty netters they've all been 1 goal games. on paper the Canes could easily be winning every game by 2-3 goals but they haven't been. credit to the Isles as they've been better than 3-0 suggests.

 

[BMOK33]

Lol at saying the Canes goaltending is the problem after the saves Freddie made last night. And that's on the back of a .951 save % since he came back from his medical issue as well as putting up stellar numbers in the run last year that was only outdone by a combination of a Canes inability to score meeting up with a red hot Bob.

I'm saying its killed them in their series losses...the Isles have no ability to finish at all which can make Andersen look fine but I do not trust him at all vs better teams. I felt he was bad in the series vs FLA last year overall

 

[Megustaelhockey]

This has to be the end for Patty Roy.

He's been coach of the Islanders for three months.

I swear this league needs some kind of environmental sustainability award for how quickly it recycles coaches...

 

[BMOK33]

This has to be the end for Patty Roy.

He more or less said when he was hired in not so many words that he's probably going to be the GM once Lou retires. I think he's coaching next season and thats it, its hard for me to see Lou staying around as GM more than another year.

 

[Svechhammer]

I'm saying its killed them in their series losses...the Isles have no ability to finish at all which can make Andersen look fine but I do not trust him at all vs better teams. I felt he was bad in the series vs FLA last year overall

Lol

Your bias is showing

 

[llamateizer]

This has to be the end for Patty Roy.

Same end as Cooper when they got swept in 2019?

 

[BMOK33]

Lol

Your bias is showing

I honestly was all out for Carolina in that series because I have so many damn FLA bandwagon friends since my family lives down in south Florida. He was sneaky bad in that obviously Carolina was not allowing boatloads of goals but he was just brutal in those game 3-4s in Florida, he even screamed at the D I think after the last second goal that lost them the series. I simply do not think he has the cojones to be a SC winning netminder, any Leafs fan will tell you it was never below the shoulders that was the issue, it was above

 

[Khelandros]

I’m just shocked at how completely the Canes have manhandled the Isles, who were on fire at 8-1-1 to grab their playoff spot. I never thought all that momentum NYI had built would translate to absolutely nothing

It's not like the Islanders were beating the world to go 8-1-1

 

[Identity404]

Every single reaction to this post is a laugh. Oof.

Honestly, I thought it was sarcasm.

 

[MessierII]

I’m just shocked at how completely the Canes have manhandled the Isles, who were on fire at 8-1-1 to grab their playoff spot. I never thought all that momentum NYI had built would translate to absolutely nothing

There’s no game to game momentum in the playoffs. Every game is a reset.

 

[BMOK33]

I’m just shocked at how completely the Canes have manhandled the Isles, who were on fire at 8-1-1 to grab their playoff spot. I never thought all that momentum NYI had built would translate to absolutely nothing

Its fairly typical for that to happen over the years....usually when a team does that its their big boys who carry them but once you get to the playoffs those guys inevitably get shutdown or focused on. We saw Ottawa make that run a few years back then just go quietly once the first round began. The Isles might have been a big pain in this series had the likes of Horvat/Barzal been better since their role guys have actually done very well. More often the rule that works better is when a 1-2-3 seed goes cold the final week or two, they often go out in round 1. I have not found that teams who get hot the final week or two necessarily go deep though FLA sure did last year

 

[DaveG]

East was pretty weak aside from 3 teams this year.

maybe 5 teams, but yeah no argument there. Pretty drastic swing from the last few seasons, though there were signs even last year.

 

[BMOK33]

maybe 5 teams, but yeah no argument there. Pretty drastic swing from the last few seasons, though there were signs even last year.

The East is basically NYR/CAR. I think BOS/FLA are GOOD but do I think they can win a cup this year? No. I think Bob is too unreliable and BOS is just not as elite as they were a few years ago. That does not mean they won't win but to me the winner of NYR/CAR probably wins the cup. I do think VGK is the only true threat to either in a final

 

[DaveG]

The East is basically NYR/CAR. I think BOS/FLA are GOOD but do I think they can win a cup this year? No. I think Bob is too unreliable and BOS is just not as elite as they were a few years ago. That does not mean they won't win but to me the winner of NYR/CAR probably wins the cup. I do think VGK is the only true threat to either in a final

FLA I can see winning if Bob actually carries his heater into the final unlike last year, but we'll see. Bob can be flakey as we have seen in the past. When he turned back into a pumpkin last year they were cooked. Boston I won't write off until they finally flirt with missing the playoffs the way Tampa did this year.

Vegas and Dallas scare the piss out of me out West, not sure how that's a first round matchup.

 

[BMOK33]

FLA I can see winning if Bob actually carries his heater into the final unlike last year, but we'll see. Bob can be flakey as we have seen in the past. When he turned back into a pumpkin last year they were cooked. Boston I won't write off until they finally flirt with missing the playoffs the way Tampa did this year.

Vegas and Dallas scare the piss out of me out West, not sure how that's a first round matchup.

The stupid format sort of allowed BOS/VGK to tank. As it turns out both might regret it. BOS now probably wishes they played TB and in 3 days maybe VGK will have wished they got VAN if DAL wins 2 of the next 3 and VGK finds themselves in a must win game 6 at home to avoid a game 7. I think with Demko down they'd have loved VAN, they simply tried to get the matchup they knew favored them with Dallas

 

[bleedgreen]

This has to be the end for Patty Roy.

lol why? I can’t stand the guy either but their season didn’t seem to be going anywhere when he was hired and they made the playoffs with clearly improved play. He's probably never looked better as a coach.

 

[Peltz]

I'm not sure about that. Canes have smothering D and Igor can be rattled. I think any of the 4 can win vs each other. Counting Boston as well

Igor hasn't had a bad playoff game since early in his first ever series against the pens two years ago.

He's been sensational against the Canes that year, then against the Lightning (despite elimination) and last year against the Devils (again despite elimination).

Even when the Rangers are knocked out in the past two years, Shesty has 100% been their best player by a long shot. And last year against the Devils, he was the best player on the ice for either team in all 7 games. Like, it wasn't even close. It was Igor alone v. Devils with a guest appearance of Kreider every few games and that's it.

This year, he's been good (not sensational) to take a 2-0 lead so far against the capitals too. He hasn't let in a soft goal and has made some killer saves last game.

While you can't predict how goalies will play, I do not think if the Canes eliminate the Rangers, it will be due to Shesterkin letting in softies. It will be because the Canes got a lot of second chance opportunities the rangers couldn't defend and then were able to successfully defend against the Rangers at 5v5 and on the PK.

And those are definitely not outside the realm of possibility here. Rangers are beatable. But it's not due to Shesterkin at all in my humble opinion. He's the guy I worry about least right now.

 

[Extra Texture]

There’s no game to game momentum in the playoffs. Every game is a reset.

Well that's truer than the regular season, but what I mean is they seemed to be playing in a style that would translated well to the postseason, from what I saw. Tight games that were going down to the wire and involved holding on to slender leads or deciding it in OT.

It's not like the Islanders were beating the world to go 8-1-1

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Yeah, there were not any real stompings in there, but some solid wins, too. Nashville, taking 3 of 4 points off the Rangers (and 2 minutes away from 2 wins). And close games where a single goal was the difference (and so the team had to tighten up). Looking back, every game from April 4-9 was settled by a late empty netter. I realize beating Philly and NJ down the stretch wasnt that big of an achievement.

 

[Peltz]

They've made the games close though, outside of empty netters they've all been 1 goal games. on paper the Canes could easily be winning every game by 2-3 goals but they haven't been. credit to the Isles as they've been better than 3-0 suggests.

How often are playoff games not one goal games though? I feel like that's more often than not the case.

I genuinely am asking. I have no idea if I'm right.

Anyways, here's hoping for a reverse sweep. I've been waiting decades for a Rangers / Islanders series. Feels like I'm going to continue waiting decades at this point.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

How often are playoff games not one goal games though? I feel like that's more often than not the case.

I genuinely am asking. I have no idea if I'm right.

Anyways, here's hoping for a reverse sweep. I've been waiting decades for a Rangers / Islanders series. Feels like I'm going to continue waiting decades at this point.

	SHARE OF GAMES W/ MARGIN OF …
YEAR	1 GOAL	2 GOALS	3 GOALS	4+ GOALS	AVG. MARGIN
2022	25%	25%	18%	31%	2.71
2018	35	21	21	23	2.53
1988	37	22	20	22	2.43
1995	35	31	14	20	2.43
1987	41	25	16	18	2.32
1992	33	31	20	15	2.30
1997	35	23	29	13	2.29
2019	43	17	17	22	2.26
1996	40	18	24	18	2.24
1991	41	24	22	14	2.22

SOURCE: ESPN


some data from playoffs first round, from this article:

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