Center Ice Scrum*
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WOW is this post full of fail.
First off, You're telling me a team with limited center depth like the Leafs do didn't have a spot for Kadri at the beginning of the year? Kadri should have been a lock on paper to make your team and he didn't earn it. Eberle did because he proved to the Oilers he can stick with the team for a full season. Both players were gifted roster spots at the beginning, the difference is Eberle stuck with his spot.
Second, maybe making Team Canada at the Worlds isn't a great accomplishment, but making it as a 19 year old without NHL expierience is.
Third, do you really believe Eberle shouldn't be getting hype for what he did in the World Juniors? I mean he's only the leading scorer for Team Canada all time in that tournament right?
If you really want to say Eberle led all of the teams he's played for to losing results than I guess I'll point out Kadri was also on the World Junior team in 09/10 and he was able to lead Canada to a silver medal instead of gold for Canada, which you forgot to mention for some strange reason. Oh yea and that awesome London Knights team Kadri was playing for wasn't able to win the Memorial Cup either. By your logic you'd consider Kadri a winning player because he's never actually won anything. Smart.
oh boy.. lol
1. I'm agreeing with you all and I know Kadri wasn't good enough for the roster spot, but Leafs didn't hand him squat. If they did, he would've gotten killed by the fans and media. As for Eberle, the oilers made space for those 3 players, hypothetically speaking if Eberle didn't make the team out of camp who was going to replace him (another prospect)? I'm just saying that Kadri was in a situation where if he didn't make the team as a top 2 center he was gonna get sent down regardless. Eberle was not in that situation. I do give Eberle credit for making the Oilers lineup, i'm just saying the expectations and pressure was not there.
2. There are a couple from NCAA this year who are playing for the USA national team. Making the team isn't a reflection only on how good you are but also on the fact that NHL players don't wanna play the extra few weeks (if they're not playing in the playoffs at the time). Good on Eberle for making it last year and this year, i'm not knocking him for it.
3. World Juniors is good and Eberle was clutch with his scoring, and i'm not saying he shouldn't get the hype for it. I'm just saying people are praising him as a god just because he did well at world juniors. NHL is not the world juniors. Also i pointed out in another post, how Eberle was set up as the offensive guy along with hall in that world juniors, where as kadri who i think played on that line too sometimes was slotted in as an energy guy who was supposed to be physical and chip in here and there. However, once again I'm not knocking Eberle on his accomplishments but this is the only tournament where he's succeeded given he also played on very good teams with very good players (and so did Kadri and i get that).
4. I was talking about Eberle not being able to lead the Regina Pats into the WHL playoffs. Which you play whatever 60-70+ games for. World Juniors is a crap shoot where you can falter like Canada has done one too many times lately. Kadri and Eberle were in similar spots with the Pats and Knights. Both had very similar teams and limited secondary scoring. Looking at those circumstances I'm just saying Kadri was able to get his team to the playoffs and then once in the playoffs, he was able to perform quite well. He's been a very good playoff performer all his OHL career not just last year, but last year he played on a pretty weak team. So the main point here being, in similar situations in their respective CHL leagues, Kadri was able to carry his team to the playoffs (which Eberle wasn't able to do) and Kadri performed very well in the 2 series the Knights played. I understand that in the grand scheme of things anything short of a championship trophy is a fail but that also negates your or someone else's argument who brought up Eberle won WHL MVP or something.. because his team couldn't even make the playoffs.
I was not talking about the world junior short comings because it is a crapshoot tournament. Canada vs. any team in a best of 7 series gets Canada the win 99.9% of the times.