Value of: Dustin Brown (or similar) to CAR

[GIN ANTONIC]

So, maybe in the minority here for Canes fans but even though the team is playing relatively well with a pretty good record I think they are lacking in veteran presence and if Mr. Game 7 doesn’t come back midway I don’t think they might reach their potential with this young team. I like Staal as a player, leader and captain but I don’t think he’s necessarily vocal or holds guys responsible enough. Maybe Brindamour fills that role but still nice to have another strong leader.

OK, let’s get the to the thread... I realize that Dustin Brown leaving LA is super unlikely for a variety of reasons but what would LAK be looking for to move him?

- 35 y/o Physical RH shot winger with scoring touch and leadership
- 60+ and 50+ point seasons the last two seasons
- 2 more years at $5.8 cap hit and $4 mil real dollars

If not Dustin Brown then who would be a reasonable comp?

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[Kingspiracy]

Picks and prospects, I doubt he moves, but stranger things have happened. LA do have a quite a few veteran guys that may offer some leadership that may be available. (lewis, clifford, carter, kovalchuk etc)

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Picks and prospects, I doubt he moves, but stranger things have happened. LA do have a quite a few veteran guys that may offer some leadership that may be available. (lewis, clifford, carter, kovalchuk etc)

Canes have a loaded farm team and tons of picks so the fit is there. We have multiple 1sts and 2nds this year, etc.

Hypothetically what would it take for Dustin Brown straight up and also at 50% retained?

 

[Kingspiracy]

Canes have a loaded farm team and tons of picks so the fit is there. We have multiple 1sts and 2nds this year, etc.

Hypothetically what would it take for Dustin Brown straight up and also at 50% retained?

I wouldnt have a clue. Its very hard to gauge value on an older player.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Canes have a loaded farm team and tons of picks so the fit is there. We have multiple 1sts and 2nds this year, etc.

Hypothetically what would it take for Dustin Brown straight up and also at 50% retained?

I also doubt Brown moves but i think u would be looking at a 2nd and top end defensive prospect for all his contract. Looking 1st and prospect at 50%

 

[Sparky206]

Carter would be more likely, they wont move brown.

 

[spockBokk]

I'm not so sure they really need a vet presence anymore. I think someone like Brown or Williams would certainly help round out the top 9, but I think they'll be fine learning as they go along this year. They actually have the talent to win games this season they have no business winning. The pros of vet leadership and the cost to obtain a guy like Brown, etc I think are overblown versus the experience the CAR young guys will get throughout the rest of this season.

I'd think the braintrust would more so be looking for a young-ish F that fits the RBA playing style that can grow with the current core. It'd help immensely if that potential F was a right shot and even more so, if he could also take draws.

The top 2 guys on my wishlist are Kapanen and Roslovic, but I don't think either of them gets dealt for what CAR would be offering. So, maybe a guy like Carter or Brown from LA would be the best fit, all depending on cost. Meaning, I wouldn't give up a 1st and/or top prospect for either of those guys. I would give up a 1st for Kapanen, and I'd easily trade from CAR's depth on D prospects for Roslovic.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Carter would be more likely, they wont move brown.

Think the idea of moving Carter has come up and he implied that he would just retire if dealt that’s why I didn’t go that route. I realize that Brown is in a very similar position given his tenure with LA

 

[RedMenace]

You can have one very lightly used Justin Abdelkader.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Think the idea of moving Carter has come up and he implied that he would just retire if dealt that’s why I didn’t go that route. I realize that Brown is in a very similar position given his tenure with LA

never happened fake news

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

never happened fake news

Oh ok, my bad on that. Either way I don’t expect either to be traded

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Oh ok, my bad on that. Either way I don’t expect either to be traded

Brown u are right highly doubt hes available he bleeds la kings Carter however is available imo or damn well should be. It would require working with him on where he would like to go.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

1st and a good prospect for 50% retention on Brown would be a fine move by both teams.

I would sooner move Carter than Brown. Carter’s value is harder to gauge, but he is still a useful player, on pace for 20+ goals. 2nd and good prospect for 50% retention on Carter would work from my perspective.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Toffoli for a 2nd+

Doubt Brown or Carter get dealt, but maybe. If Lewis was healthy, he'd add a good vet presence

 

[YP44]

ya, I do not see Brown being moved. He will retire a king.

Carter could be avaible and is starting to look really good just not burying the chances, but the key for me is he is getting to areas to have really good chances. Something he struggled with last year.
Toffoli is obviously available.

One player I think would do well with the canes and have a low acquisition cost is Lewis. He is a very versatile bottom 6er who would provide great leadership.

The player i think would fit best for the Canes is a return of Justin Williams.

 

[Reaper45]

Can'tr see them moving Brown at all. Carter would be a good fit for Carolina. His scoring isn't what it used to be still doing well so far this season and his physicallity has ramped up big time. He's laid a few big hits so far this season.

I think Lewis would be a decent add too.

 

[Unsustainable]

Toffoli for a 2nd+

Doubt Brown or Carter get dealt, but maybe. If Lewis was healthy, he'd add a good vet presence

This would be a good value trade for us.

 

[go4hockey]

Think the idea of moving Carter has come up and he implied that he would just retire if dealt that’s why I didn’t go that route. I realize that Brown is in a very similar position given his tenure with LA

Carter has stated a number of times he plans on playing out his contract and has never mentioned retiring, that was just a guess by a guy that has little or no ties when it comes to LA

 

[YP44]

This would be a good value trade for us.

What would LA have to take back to make the cap work? If there is max retention could that 2nd become whichever 1st (leafs or Canes) pick is lower?

 

[spockBokk]

What would LA have to take back to make the cap work? If there is max retention could that 2nd become whichever 1st (leafs or Canes) pick is lower?

I’d be shocked if CAR gives up a 1st for a rental.

 

[YP44]

I’d be shocked if CAR gives up a 1st for a rental.

I agree but you can't steal second with your foot on first.

 

[Unsustainable]

What would LA have to take back to make the cap work? If there is max retention could that 2nd become whichever 1st (leafs or Canes) pick is lower?

2nd, McGinn, and prospect?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

1st and a good prospect for 50% retention on Brown would be a fine move by both teams.

I would sooner move Carter than Brown. Carter’s value is harder to gauge, but he is still a useful player, on pace for 20+ goals. 2nd and good prospect for 50% retention on Carter would work from my perspective.

I don't think it's a fine move for Carolina. I'd rather keep the 1st. Besides, even at 50% retained, the Canes can't take on his cap hit this year and I can't see Brown moving at all.

 

[kilowatt]

I would imagine Carolina would prefer Toffoli for something like a second in 2020 and perhaps a conditional third in 2021 if Toffoli re-signs, rather than taking the gamble on Brown. I would also be really upset if the Kings traded Brown, but that's just my homerism speaking.

 

[unicornpig]

Brown does t get moved unless they are blown away by the offer