Value of: Dumping James Neal

[BLNY]

James Neal’s shooting percentage is #unsustainable. We will be happy with him once playoffs roll around.

This didn't age well.

 

[TeddyBare]

Coach and player do not like each other.

 

[super6646]

I’d offer kylington and a first. f*** him

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

I’d offer kylington and a first. **** him

To get rid of him?

Devils will take that offer

 

[super6646]

To get rid of him?

Devils will take that offer

Sold!

We need that cap space.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

To get rid of him?

Devils will take that offer

Canucks take it before you

 

[super6646]

Canucks take it before you

Lol no to a division rival....

Kylington and a second?

 

[John Johnson]

Lol no to a division rival....

Kylington and a second?

Thats still a pretty good offer.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Lol no to a division rival....

Kylington and a second?

I mean your 1st is pretty late anyway

Counter: Neal+Kylington+1st for 4th

 

[super6646]

I mean your 1st is pretty late anyway

Counter: Neal+Kylington+1st for 4th

Idk. Make it like a conditional 2020 2nd coming back (scores 20 goals and 40 pts) that turns into a third otherwise and I think we have a deal.

 

[Deen]

We basically signed present day Mike Richards.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Neal + Kylington + 1st + 2nd for Jack Johnson & Patric Hornqvist.

I don't know why. I still have a soft spot for "lazy" James Neal.

I assume Kylington is a young potential top-4 defenseman?

 

[InfinityIggy]

This didn't age well.

So real it hurts.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Neal + Kylington + 1st + 2nd for Jack Johnson & Patric Hornqvist.

I don't know why. I still have a soft spot for "lazy" James Neal.

I assume Kylington is a young potential top-4 defenseman?

He is and he's also not being traded to dump Neal's contract.

Also, that deal is awful for the Flames. Johnson is about as bad as Neal while Hornqvist at 32 doesn't exactly have a lot of productive years left either.

You could take out Kylington and the first and it's still an easy no.

I’d offer kylington and a first. **** him

Well thank goodness the actual GM is nowhere near as dumb as this.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Neal + Kylington + 1st + 2nd for Jack Johnson & Patric Hornqvist.

I don't know why. I still have a soft spot for "lazy" James Neal.

I assume Kylington is a young potential top-4 defenseman?

I think that deal would be fair without the 2nd considering we're dumping Johnson on them.

 

[super6646]

He is and he's also not being traded to dump Neal's contract.

Also, that deal is awful for the Flames. Johnson is about as bad as Neal while Hornqvist at 32 doesn't exactly have a lot of productive years left either.

You could take out Kylington and the first and it's still an easy no.


Well thank goodness the actual GM is nowhere near as dumb as this.

Getting rid of Bickel cost chicago teevo, and his contract wasn’t nearly as bad. Add to the fact kylington has no place in the lineup and we need to the cap space, you propose something.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Getting rid of Bickel cost chicago teevo, and his contract wasn’t nearly as bad. Add to the fact kylington has no place in the lineup and we need to the cap space, you propose something.

And you don't think Chicago regrets that now?

You don't throw away promising talent based on short term thinking. Kylington might not have a future in Calgary but that doesn't mean you just give him away. If he's moved, it should only be in a package deal that actually gives the Flames something they need, like a legit first line centre. Keep in mind, Kylington is waiver exempt for another season so calm down. There's no rush to do anything with him at the moment.

As for Neal, for better or worse, the Flames are stuck with him. Best case is he rebounds next year. Worst case, he's moved for a similar calibre forward, like Eriksson or Ladd. Or the Flames simply wait for a compliance buyout in the next lockout.

Flames have much bigger issues like finding a real number one centre and upgrading Jankowski into something good.

 

[gianni]

Dang. Bought out Troy Brouwer, just to bring in James Neal.

 

[super6646]

And you don't think Chicago regrets that now?

You don't throw away promising talent based on short term thinking. Kylington might not have a future in Calgary but that doesn't mean you just give him away. If he's moved, it should only be in a package deal that actually gives the Flames something they need, like a legit first line centre. Keep in mind, Kylington is waiver exempt for another season so calm down. There's no rush to do anything with him at the moment.

As for Neal, for better or worse, the Flames are stuck with him. Best case is he rebounds next year. Worst case, he's moved for a similar calibre forward, like Eriksson or Ladd. Or the Flames simply wait for a compliance buyout in the next lockout.

Flames have much bigger issues like finding a real number one centre and upgrading Jankowski into something good.

Oh not this again...

Just an fwi, tkachuk is getting 8 million this year, Bennett probably around 3, and we need Rittich re-signed and another goalie . Kylington doesn’t move the needle on a “legit #1C”, and how are we finding the cap space to do it even if we get one? Chances are, that #1C is more expensive than Monahan, so good luck with that.

 

[boredmale]

From and Islanders perspective Ladd for Neal, both 4 years remaining on their deals, Neal has a higher caphit(by 250k) but is 2 years younger

 

[justafan22]

Unpopular opinion: his contract is harder (not worse) to move than Lucic's.

You can flip Lucic, if you're willing to assume the signing bonus

 

[Riptide]

Just a hypothetical, but what would any rebuilding team want from Calgary to dump Neal? Probably doesn't happen this year anyway, but his cap hit is gonna be a problem long-term and he hasn't been a good fit here whatsoever.

Edit: Kylington and a first to dump him. Idk if that’s enough, but he’s been awful. Knew this thread would be handy when he did **** all in the playoffs.

It's always possible that he turns things around next season. And getting another season out of the way turns it into a 3 yr deal. Retain a little salary and I don't think it would be impossible to get him off the books without costing you a fortune... it just likely doesn't happen this summer.

 

[super6646]

It's always possible that he turns things around next season.

Why would he? Players in their early 30s who can’t skate for shit don’t often return to form, especially when they don’t look like they give a shit half the time.

 

[Riptide]

Why would he? Players in their early 30s who can’t skate for **** don’t often return to form, especially when they don’t look like they give a **** half the time.

More dedication to trading in the summer, more time to acclimatize to the team/linemates/etc. It's not exactly unheard of that a player will have a shit season then do better the following season. And while I agree Neal isn't the best of skaters, he's been the same shitty skater his entire career... and outside of his Pittsburgh stint where he was flanking Malkin, he's always been a 25g+ player. And that includes when he was 30 years old just the previous season in Vegas.

 

[T1K]

This might be a take most pens fans don’t agree with, but if we trade Kessel then I would trade for Neal if a 1st and Kylington are coming back with him. Assuming we get a 1st+ for Kessel then we could be in a position to acquire a high end pick via a trade.