Value of: Duchene vs RNH

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  1. Luckylarry

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    Of these two, which (if traded) will return more value?
    I see them as pretty even.
     
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    Duchene is worth at least 2x what RNH is. Duchene has a lot more potential while RNH is forever a 2nd line center.
     
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    Duchene for sure
     
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    It probably depends on how they both do this season. Sakic has been holding out to hit the lotto while Chia maybe forced to move RNH at some point so that needs to be taken into account as well.
     
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    Duchene is the better player... but RNH has the 4 years of term, thus giving the new team certainty beyond MDs 2 yrs. I think that you're right, when these guys are traded, the values will be fairly similar.
     
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    Come on... at least 4x
     
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    Duchene has a lot more value than RNH has IMO. At their best, Duchene is a clear level above RNH and Duchene was at that level more recently than RNH was. The Oilers also are in a much tighter spot with RNH and will likely have to undersell him due to the cap, the Avs don't technically have to trade Duchene.
     
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    RNH seems like a passive type of player to me. Not nearly as quick as Duchene. And both guys have been playing on **** teams for awhile. 13-14 Avs and last year's Oilers being the outliers.

    Duchene at his best was one of Canada's impact players. Only players I saw who matched or exceeded him in the World Cup were Tavares and the Sid line. I don't think RNH has that level in him.
     
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    Duchene is worth more, but RNH has longer team control and is younger.

    I think people are underrating how much RNH or overrating how much Duchene will return.
    I think both will get a blue-chip prospect/ young player but Duchene will get an extra 1st Round pick.
     
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    Duchene would be in consideration for the Canadian Olympic team (and would probably make it) if NHLers were going to the South Korea Olympics.

    RNH would be a consideration for the World Hockey Championship Roster and wouldn't be a shoe-in.
     
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    Now I do think Duchene > RNH.

    But do you REALLY think Duchene is one of Canadas best lets say 14 forwards. A lot has changed over the past few years. He wouldn't sniff the olympic team this time around

    RNH would be a shoe-in for the world hockey championship roster to think otherwise is just flat out wrong. He also was an impact player at the World cup of hockey for team North America so theres that.
     
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    Was Duchene not on the World Cup team less than a year ago?
     
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    Oilers fan but its not even close. Duchene is worth significantly more.
     
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    RNH being under team control for 2 extra yrs would make him the more attractive trade target, if I am a GM giving up top assets.
     
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    Duchene has, is, always will be the better player.
     
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    RNHs value is so low right now that it's going to be hard to get anything big for him. He is overpaid and everyone knows the Oilers will be hurting for cash very soon. Add to that he's an average at best 2C.
     
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    I didn't realize how bad of a year Nuge just had. I knew Duchene's was abysmal but I didn't realize Nuge's was basically as terrible

    Duchene is coming off a 41 point season dude.....
     
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    Duchene is worth more by quite a bit based off of scenarios (oilers cap) however in a vacuum Duchene is maybe worth late first more.
     
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    I think the impact of these players would be similar if each player was put in the same situation.

    Duchene likely has more cache due to Olympics but RNH has a longer contract.

    I think players have similar value and would have a similar impact.
     
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    RNH's contract length is a non-issue considering that he is overpaid for what he is. Duchene is on a pretty good deal for a guy only a year removed from 30 goals, that's going to have a lot more value to a team going all in for the next two years.
     
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    I don't care if he's a better individual player, he quit on his team/teammates this past season. He simply isn't a team player or a leader. I wouldn't trade for either player based on what they would cost.
     
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    Everyone quit on Colorado last season. Even landeskog, the team captain
     
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    Here's a very statistical article comparing RNH to Draisaitl: https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2017/08/19/comparing-nuges-oranges-and-draisaitls-oranges/

    You likely won't read the whole thing if any of it but long story short the situations a player is used in drastically changes their results.

    If I asked you who would be more impactful on a team between Duchene and Draisaitl, you or at least most would say Draisaitl. The conclusion of the article is that RNH and Draisaitl are actually really close in on ice impact. I bet Duchene and RNH are a lot closer than you think.
     
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    MacKinnon didn't seem to have quit his team.
     
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    Despite the fact that RNH was drafted 1st overall and is 2.5 years younger?

    Okay...
     

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