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Speculation: Duchene trade looking back
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we all knew it was bad from the begninning. no need to make a thread out of it
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Holy jumping the gun batman
tho I do think the aves did good on the trade.
tho I do think the aves did good on the trade.
One of the worst trades in NHL history. Ottawa is done for possibly a decade +.
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Duchene will turn it around eventually. It just may not be in Ottawa. He's still a low-mid range #1c.
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I'm happy. The Seguin trade was said to be unbeatable in terribleness since the jumbo Joe trade. This has wiped that clean
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Duchene is a first line center. Not top 10 or even top 15, but still a first line center.
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May be over rating Kamenev a tad but as an Avs fan I couldn't be happier. Just getting Duchene off the roster was valuable. Everything else is gravy.
Eric Lindros for Forsberg and the rest
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibault, Kovalenko and Rucinsky
Ray Bourque for Brian Rolston, Sami Pahlson, Martin Greneir and a 1st (Martin Samuelson)
Rob Blake and Steve Reinprecht for Adam Deadmarsh, Aaron Miller, Jared Aulin, 2 1sts (David Steckel and Brian Boyle)
But yeah it has potential, but I'd rule out it ever topping Lindros. It's like being James Bond after Connery.
I certainly wouldn't call Girard a "super stud" prospect, nor do I think Kamenev is a future 2C, and Hammond definitely isn't a solid backup. No need to exaggerate all of the pieces, they did well in the trade.
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Well, Ottawa keeps there top 10 pick this year which gives us a shot at Dahlin Zadina..ect
and keep White Brown Chabot Chlapik Formenton Batherson Gagne Jaros Englund and Hogberg. Literally didnt take a dent into our current prospect pool
Duchene has been great the past 10 games, better than Turris and much better at even strength - but our team as a whole looks horrible which in turn makes the trade look a hell of a lot worse.
It will all depend on how this pans out - either we sign him to a reasonable deal or flip him next deadline for a good return as well.
Its a lot of B & C assets for a really good player, but hell it is still 7 players for one which is amazing for the Avs
Losing Turris killed us from a leadership perspective, but I personally would not have signed him for 6 years so I am okay with it
and keep White Brown Chabot Chlapik Formenton Batherson Gagne Jaros Englund and Hogberg. Literally didnt take a dent into our current prospect pool
Duchene has been great the past 10 games, better than Turris and much better at even strength - but our team as a whole looks horrible which in turn makes the trade look a hell of a lot worse.
It will all depend on how this pans out - either we sign him to a reasonable deal or flip him next deadline for a good return as well.
Its a lot of B & C assets for a really good player, but hell it is still 7 players for one which is amazing for the Avs
Losing Turris killed us from a leadership perspective, but I personally would not have signed him for 6 years so I am okay with it
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Duchene's heating up though. 7 points in his last five games.
He's been pretty solid throughout most of his time with the Sens, but he was having trouble developing chemistry with his linemates so he wasn't putting up points. Now he and Hoffman look pretty good together. I know the Sens suck this season, but it's not because of Duchene. He's one of the few players on this team that's actually playing well.
Turris has cooled off a bit lately and even though Colorado got a pretty good haul, they're relatively unproven so far. Is it not possible to wait a bit longer before making hyperbolic statements about who won and lost a trade?
He's been pretty solid throughout most of his time with the Sens, but he was having trouble developing chemistry with his linemates so he wasn't putting up points. Now he and Hoffman look pretty good together. I know the Sens suck this season, but it's not because of Duchene. He's one of the few players on this team that's actually playing well.
Turris has cooled off a bit lately and even though Colorado got a pretty good haul, they're relatively unproven so far. Is it not possible to wait a bit longer before making hyperbolic statements about who won and lost a trade?
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Just so we’re clear....otttawa only gave up this...
Kyle Turris (upcoming UFA)
Andrew Hammond (borderline NHL backup goalie)
Shane Bowers
2018 first-round pick
2019 third-round pick.
None of the players Colorado received were top end. Even when the trade was made the 1st was middling.
Girard is decent but he was never considered an“A” prospect, neither was Kamenev.
This trade is the perfect example of quality for quantity. But imo, I never considered Duchene quality.
Kyle Turris (upcoming UFA)
Andrew Hammond (borderline NHL backup goalie)
Shane Bowers
2018 first-round pick
2019 third-round pick.
None of the players Colorado received were top end. Even when the trade was made the 1st was middling.
Girard is decent but he was never considered an“A” prospect, neither was Kamenev.
This trade is the perfect example of quality for quantity. But imo, I never considered Duchene quality.
Duchene is better than his stats in Ottawa show. He’s a good player. He’ll bounce back.
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As a Canes fan. I am glad we didn't give up Slavin, Pesce, Hanifin, or Faulk for Duchene. I hope he turns it around for Ottawa's sake.
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Well, I don't think you remember that Nashville and Turris were also involved. Nashville gave up pieces to get Turris, which added to Colorado's asset gains.
Look, this site is obsessed with futures, but you don't know how how this trade is gonna be until they're all playing for the Colorado Avalanche.
Unless Ottawa loses Karlsson, and Duchene when he's a UFA. Then yikes...
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He has 8 points in the last 8 games and for the most part has played very well, meanwhile Turris is going through his own slump production wise. There’s peaks and valleys to every season, but still everyone is so quick to rush to judgement. It’s incredible to watch year after year.
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I wouldn't have called Sam a stud prospect before I saw him play on regular basis, but he is doing absolutely amazing things as an 19 year old, and he is a blue chipper. Most people don't know he could've played at this past WJC, or that he was the runner up to Chabot for QMJHL D of the year last season, and that he won that award the season prior to that. Kid is legit and since Tyson went down he has shown great offensive instincts to go along with steady defensive game. Kid's a gem, and quite frankly I think Joe raked it in with this trade, Shane is playing great at BU, Kamanev is a good prospect, Sam is killing it in the NHL, 2nd and 3rd rounder are nice as well, but the biggest kicker is the chance for Ottawa's pick to be in the top 5 next year.
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In regards to Hammond, I think he can be a capable back up. Solid maybe a generous word but let’s be honest he was a throw in who I doubt has a future in Colorado and even his NHL status is in the air moving forward. He hasn’t even played a minute of hockey in Colorado, suggesting he made the return better is a little much.
just a coincidence the avs immediately surge while the sens tank after the trade. preds and avs benefitted while the sens didn't.. duchene fan boys in denial.
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