Drouin vs Nylander

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

No, I said he could take over a game like few can. That doesn't at all imply Nylander can't take over a game, just that Drouin can do it better.

Can you quantify this in any way? Nylander was MVP of a world tournament at age 21 and tied Gretzky's record for points for that age. Being able to take over a tournament like Gretzky says more to me than what you're saying. He was also completely dominant in the playoffs and has a case for the best forward in that series

 

[Razz]

As a Leafs fan it's a wash to me. I have no doubt that Nylander will have more points than Drouin in the foreseeable future but he's on a far better team offensively than Drouin. Playing on Matthews' line is quite the advantage.

If Drouin was on the Leafs I'd feel Drouin would have the better outlook so yeah, a wash.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Can you quantify this in any way? Nylander was MVP of a world tournament at age 21 and tied Gretzky's record for points for that age. Being able to take over a tournament like Gretzky says more to me than what you're saying. He was also completely dominant in the playoffs and has a case for the best forward in that series

I am stating this as my opinion based on my viewings of each player. The level I saw from Drouin in the 15-16 playoffs vs the Penguins was a higher level than anything I've seen from Nylander. That's not a knock on Nylander - if Drouin could maintain that level of play he'd be in the tier just below McDavid.

 

[Menzinger]

It's got to be Nylander.

Has proven more offensively, higher chance at transitioning over to centre, and is a monster of a possession player.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I am stating this as my opinion based on my viewings of each player. The level I saw from Drouin in the 15-16 playoffs vs the Penguins was a higher level than anything I've seen from Nylander. That's not a knock on Nylander - if Drouin could maintain that level of play he'd be in the tier just below McDavid.

Well I disagree unless you missed Nylander's playoffs + WHC. But even so, I still don't see the logic to base your whole opinion on 1 playoff series

 

[TDK67]

Even though I watched almost every single Leafs game last year, I kind of forgot just how insanely talented Nylander is. The more I see his highlights and the more I dig into his underlying metrics (elite possession + elite zone entries + elite passing leading to shots + elite shot generation + awful oISH%), the more I can see him easily crossing the 30+ goals & 40+ assists threshold this year to separate himself from the Drouin/Aho/Galchenyuk/etc comparisons and put himself in the Top 10F league wide conversation. Obviously nothing is guaranteed, but don't be surprised if he and Matthews form one of the most lethal duos in the league next year.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Both are going to be superstar player.

Now : Nylander.

Future : I don't know. Drouin is going to be a amazing too... he got really amazing talent like Nylander, in 2013 Draft, i like him more than MacKinnon (Barkov my favorite). Drouin playing with player like Boyle, Namestnikov, Filppula etc...

It's pretty equal to me. Two very talented player, very great hockey IQ, i really like both...

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Nylander.

This highlight package highlights a lot of what Nylander was doing to the caps in the playoffs last year, and it carried over to the Worlds.

https://streamable.com/wn0mn

Drouin is more stylistically similar to Marner IMO but Marner is a better player than him as well. IMO Marner is the best of the 3(Drouin/Nylander).

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[KevSkillz4]

Both are going to put 70 points next season.

 

[ChiefWiggum]

At the same age, I liked Drouin more than Nylander but right now, it looks like Drouin may not live up to his hype.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Well I disagree unless you missed Nylander's playoffs + WHC. But even so, I still don't see the logic to base your whole opinion on 1 playoff series

If you were to read my posts in this thread, you'd see that I am not basing my "whole opinion" on 1 playoff series.

You seem intent on putting words in my mouth so I think I am done discussing this with you.

 

[Varcus]

Ok Drouin is not as bad as this poll indicates.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ok Drouin is not as bad as this poll indicates.

How does the poll indicate drouin is bad... nylander and drouin are pretty close talent wise, potential and now.... all this poll indicates is more people are comfortable nylander is/will be better option.



That being said id take drouin personally.

 

[bert]

Tough one. I'll take Drouin by a hair - I feel like he'll struggle with consistency but when he's on he can take a game over like few can. His performance in the 15-16 playoffs vs the Penguins was unbelievable.

Drouin is a grittier, faster player with an equal level of skill, Nylander has more hockey sense. I dont think this poll should be so one sided but I understand why based on how their careers have gone thus far. I think that it could be anyones guess as to who ends up the better player, as a sens fan I am jealous of both the Habs and Leafs. If either players manages to switchs to center it will make them more valuable and I think both organizations are hoping they can do so.

Good poll and the results arent suprising, I personally like Drouin more but they are both fantastic talents.

 

[La Masse]

Drouin is a grittier, faster player with an equal level of skill, Nylander has more hockey sense. I dont think this poll should be so one sided but I understand why based on how their careers have gone thus far. I think that it could be anyones guess as to who ends up the better player, as a sens fan I am jealous of both the Habs and Leafs. If either players manages to switchs to center it will make them more valuable and I think both organizations are hoping they can do so.

Good poll and the results arent suprising, I personally like Drouin more but they are both fantastic talents.

Nylander has the better shot IMO,his wrister is filthy

 

[Revelation]

Lol what have you done for me lately



Drouin is on another level

 

[Morgs]

Lol what have you done for me lately



Drouin is on another level

Literally everything has pointed to Nylander being better so far in their respective careers. He has a much better chance at being a C, and he's a year younger.

Hold on to one great play though.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Lol what have you done for me lately



Drouin is on another level

When you can't use stats to make your argument, post a single play to prove your case. Really impressive

 

[Hokinaittii]

Nylander.

 

[Toene]

Too close to call.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Ok Drouin is not as bad as this poll indicates.

Yes he is.

It's insulting to Nylander to really mention these two in the same sentence.

 

[WilliamNylander]

I think they will both have dominant seasons this year. I like Drouin and think he has superstar potential but I'm going Nylander here.

 

[Advanced stats]

Lol what have you done for me lately



Drouin is on another level

Ok... instead of using "lately"...would you rather use Drouin's 32 points in 70 games as a rookie compared to Nylander's 61 points as a rookie?

Or would you rather use the half season where Drouin literally benched himself?

Nylander is so much better. Drouin has been underwhelming for where he was picked.

 

[heretik27]

Nylander, but Drouin could surprise a few people this season and finally start hitting his stride.

 

[slimbob8]

Long term either could end up the better player and it shouldn't surprise anyone. Right now though judging from what we've seen from both, it should be Nylander without a doubt.