Rumor: Drance of The Athletic Van - Mike Hoffman wants to go to team "x" but team "x" needs to move cap

[LetsGOJackets!!]

Please sign in Columbus.. Hoffman energizes a team that really needs scoring ES and PP.

 

[mouser]

Again,

CAP wasnt the issue with Markstrom.


Van had over 15 million in cap space this summer. They could have signed Markstrom to 8 mil a year if they wanted.

But they didnt want to commit because Markstrom wanted (and got) a No Movement Clause.

giving Markstrom an NMC means bye bye to Thatcher Demko and that was a non starter and rightfully so for the Canucks.

6 years I believe is also something they didnt want to go forward with Markstrom.

Great for Markstrom and his Agent tho, they were able to get a 36 mil contract in a flat cap, during a low economy, for a 30 yr old coming off an injury filled season. Markstrom hit the jackpot

In past expansion situations the Canucks would simply trade Demko to another team for a decent return. It would make no sense for Markstrom to agree to a 4-6 year deal without protection from the expansion draft.

 

[violaswallet]

Thomas Drance of the Athletic Vancouer who also used to be employed by the Florida Panthers says he has been told Mike Hoffman definitely has chosen a team he wants to go to. Called them team "x"

Drance then says the only problem is team "X' needs to clear cap space before signing Hoffman. Hoffman's camp has given team X a grace period before they eventually have to sign one of the other offers. Apparently Hoffman has like 5 offers from 5 different teams.

Drance strongly suggested that team "X" is the Vancouver Canucks but hasnt been able to confirm it himself.

It sorta fits the clues tho as Canucks have a need in the top 6 but also is up against the cap.

I guess if we see someone like Virtanen, Sutter, Baertschi or Roussell traded soon then we can perhaps expect a Hoffman to Vancouver signing soon.

Friedman reported yesterday that Hoffman is possibly looking at a show me deal. It would be smart for Hoffman to sign with the young offensive Canucks to pump up his stats. He would either play beside Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvat

*will post the podcast radio hit as soon as tsn 1040 makes it availbale*

It could actually be Florida too: we only have about 5.5M left in space which is not enough. Our main local guy mentioned it today.

given the Weegar news it could make sense? We previously told Hoff that we needed to clear space for him

 

[DingDongCharlie]

sure. 5 teams. I am sure there isnt just 1 team interested but they are trying to shake them down for more money by releasing a crap story like this...

Did his agent use to sell used cars?

Yeah I doubt he’s got 5 offers on the table. There’s only about 5 clubs that could afford him without moving cap

 

[violaswallet]

Yeah I doubt he’s got 5 offers on the table. There’s only about 5 clubs that could afford him without moving cap

Florida, Columbus and Nashville all likely made offers. Boston is rumored in as well. So it seems feasible

 

[Souker]

It's probably Montreal and they are trying to move Tatar and Byron.

Not sure I’d pick Hoffman over Tatar... unless it’s for contractual reasons.
Sure, Hoffman is a better shooter but Tatar brings more to the table in my opinion.
I feel like some fans are letting a small 10 game sample cloud their evaluation of him this off season.

 

[THE Green Man]

In past expansion situations the Canucks would simply trade Demko to another team for a decent return. It would make no sense for Markstrom to agree to a 4-6 year deal without protection from the expansion draft.

How do you figure? Using the most recent expansion as reference, Pittsburgh let Vegas select MAF and protected Murray. The difference being MAF was already under contract. Markstrom basically was saying to the Canucks, am I your goalie for the next 5 years or are you going with the young guy who is progressing? When the Canucks wouldn’t give him his NMC he had his answer and went elsewhere.

 

[mouser]

How do you figure? Using the most recent expansion as reference, Pittsburgh let Vegas select MAF and protected Murray. The difference being MAF was already under contract. Markstrom basically was saying to the Canucks, am I your goalie for the next 5 years or are you going with the young guy who is progressing? When the Canucks wouldn’t give him his NMC he had his answer and went elsewhere.

Pittsburgh traded a draft pick to Vegas to pick MAF.

 

[AcerComputer]

Maybe he signs with the Leafs, they're a team that would need to clear cap space!

 

[JAK]

The cap management has been an absolute joke. When your 3 best players are making under 12.5 million combined, 2 of them on ELCs and you've just tasted the playoffs for the first time there's just no way in hell you should be in a cap crunch. Benning's cap management is among the worst in the league if not the worst.

If the Canucks hadn't been wasting their money on junk they could have been weaponizing their cap space in the most opportune time to do so while signing great value deals like a Toffoli, Hoffman, Dandanov etc.

This is really an embarrassing spot to be in for Benning.

Bad take.

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Boeser at the point of signing Sutter and Eriksson?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Pettersson at the point of signing Beagle and Roussel?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Quinn Hughes at the point of signing Tyler Myers?

At the time of the signings, these made perfect sense. GMs cannot count on rookies being Calder nominees in back to back to back years.

People can hate on the signings at the time, but no one can hate on the results of the current cap crunch.

 

[THE Green Man]

Bad take.

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Boeser at the point of signing Sutter and Eriksson?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Pettersson at the point of signing Beagle and Roussel?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Quinn Hughes at the point of signing Tyler Myers?

At the time of the signings, these made perfect sense. GMs cannot count on rookies being Calder nominees in back to back to back years.

People can hate on the signings at the time, but no one can hate on the results of the current cap crunch.

At no point did it make ANY sense to give Beagle 4 years at that age.

 

[Bobby Digital]

Bad take.

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Boeser at the point of signing Sutter and Eriksson?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Pettersson at the point of signing Beagle and Roussel?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Quinn Hughes at the point of signing Tyler Myers?

At the time of the signings, these made perfect sense. GMs cannot count on rookies being Calder nominees in back to back to back years.

People can hate on the signings at the time, but no one can hate on the results of the current cap crunch.

At no point did any of these signings make sense except mabey Myers. Myers is still a bad signing just not to the level of stupidity as the others.

You don't over pay bottom 6 players while giving them term. You don't as a supposed "rebuilding" team hand out a 6 year deal to an extremely injury prone player showing signs of decline.

 

[Kcb12345]

Oh how badly I wish this was the Stars lol. It's not tho they're pretty much confirmed to be done this offseason

Nill did mention though we could see a deal with a team that is tight against the cap and has to move someone.

 

[lawrence]

not Vancouver. they would have signed Toffoli instead.

Vancity is looking for another dman still as per latest rumours.

 

[yvrtojfk]

Bad take.

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Boeser at the point of signing Sutter and Eriksson?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Pettersson at the point of signing Beagle and Roussel?

Could anyone have predicted the emergence of Quinn Hughes at the point of signing Tyler Myers?

At the time of the signings, these made perfect sense. GMs cannot count on rookies being Calder nominees in back to back to back years.

People can hate on the signings at the time, but no one can hate on the results of the current cap crunch.

Lol

 

[Hostile Offer]

Please sign in Columbus.. Hoffman energizes a team that really needs scoring ES and PP.

Adding both Hoffman and Domi doesn't exactly sound like a direction Torts would approve of.

 

[Nazzlind]

Oh how badly I wish this was the Stars lol. It's not tho they're pretty much confirmed to be done this offseason

Nill did mention though we could see a deal with a team that is tight against the cap and has to move someone.

you guys want Jordie Benn back?

 

[Aqualung]

In past expansion situations the Canucks would simply trade Demko to another team for a decent return. It would make no sense for Markstrom to agree to a 4-6 year deal without protection from the expansion draft.

To boot, 30-34 is not considered terribly old for most goalies and on average Markstrom should play terrific hockey throughout the majority of that contract.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Canucks can fit him in with a Sutter trade. Or Virtanen/Benn.

Miller-Pettersson-Hoffman
Pearson-Horvat-Boeser
Roussel-Gaudette-Leivo
Motte-Beagle-MacEwan

 

[FreeMcdavid]

It could actually be Florida too: we only have about 5.5M left in space which is not enough. Our main local guy mentioned it today.

given the Weegar news it could make sense? We previously told Hoff that we needed to clear space for him

Ironically the Canucks would very much be interested in Weegar

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Canucks can fit him in with a Sutter trade. Or Virtanen/Benn.

Miller-Pettersson-Hoffman
Pearson-Horvat-Boeser
Roussel-Gaudette-Leivo
Motte-Beagle-MacEwan

at what AAV under this model?

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Virtanen for Lauzon.

why for Van?

Virtanen is slotted to be in the top 6 this season and even possibly on the top line with Pettersson.

Lauzon would be Vancouver's 5-7 Dman

value isnt there

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Weird if it's Vancouver, since Benning always comments on the good character of players on the team, and "bad character" players have always failed here (Leipsic, Prust, Del Zotto). Hoffman was basically charged with cyber bullying and/or harassment, at least alleged of it.

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Weird if it's Vancouver, since Benning always comments on the good character of players on the team, and "bad character" players have always failed here (Leipsic, Prust, Del Zotto). Hoffman was basically charged with cyber bullying and/or harassment, at least alleged of it.

charged and alleged are completely different things

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

charged and alleged are completely different things

IIRC they got a police no contact order and a civil suit filed against them. In those circumstances, either party might be crazy so probably best to steer clear of both of them if you care that much about character.