Rumor: Drance of The Athletic Van - Mike Hoffman wants to go to team "x" but team "x" needs to move cap

[THE Green Man]

While not against this move if true (depending on the damage done to move money out) I think I would rather Granlund and Hamonic/Vatanen compared to the price Hoffman should get on a 1 year deal. Fill 2 holes compared to one. Giggity....

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Then considering Benning didn’t have the cap room to sign Tofoli, he’s definitely not got the cap space to sign a better player in Hoffman. So no way is Vancouver team “x”, right?

We will have to wait and see.

At this point any team who doesn't have cap space is possibly team "x" lol

 

[BCNate]

Which between Hoffman and
Tofoli would be considered on the higher tier?

Last 3 years
Toffoli- 61 goals, 125 points
Hoffman- 87 goals, 185 points

 

[MBH]

Friedman reported yesterday that Hoffman is possibly looking at a show me deal. It would be smart for Hoffman to sign with the young offensive Canucks to pump up his stats. He would either play beside Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvat

Show me deal??
The dude scored 36 goals two years ago and 29 in 69 last year.
He's a proven 25-35 goal 55-70 point guy.

 

[BCNate]

Then considering Benning didn’t have the cap room to sign Tofoli, he’s definitely not got the cap space to sign a better player in Hoffman. So no way is Vancouver team “x”, right?

Toffoli isn't a guy you make a crazy move to find space to offer term for. If Hoffman is OK with a 1 year deal and isn't looking to break the bank, you at least try to find a way. He makes our top 6 scary good if it happens.

 

[BWJM]

It would be interesting to see the Canucks PP units with Hoffman. Lots of fire power. Could just have Hughes QB like 3 shooters with Horvat infront of the net lol.

 

[BCNate]

Show me deal??
The dude scored 36 goals two years ago and 29 in 69 last year.
He's a proven 25-35 goal 55-70 point guy.

Show me deal isn't the right term. It's knowing that nobody can offer money and term this offseason, so you wait until next year to sign long term. Hall doesn't need a "show me" deal either, but took one knowing that he could make more in the long run by hitting the market next year.

 

[thefutures]

One year would be great but I just don't see a way Van sheds enough salary. Jim doesn't seem willing to pay the price for his bad contracts.

 

[voxel]

Last year set the price of a 1st round pick buyout with dead cap. $4.6M over two years for a 1st. So a player like Sutter will cost a 1st - although he still can play so maybe the other team sends back a 3rd. Lucic will cost multiple 1sts

Carolina Hurricanes buy out Patrick Marleau five days after trade

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Brutal to be a UFA for some guys.. Hoffman would be a prime candidate in any normal offseason to get an absurdly huge deal.

He woulda definately gotten a 7 year deal at a high salary that would most likely be regrettable for that team by about year 5 .. the usual thing that happens haha

 

[BCNate]

Yes Hoffman is quite a bit better

Statistocally 30% across the board, but would fill a massive need in Vancouver.

 

[voxel]

Show me deal isn't the right term. It's knowing that nobody can offer money and term this offseason, so you wait until next year to sign long term. Hall doesn't need a "show me" deal either, but took one knowing that he could make more in the long run by hitting the market next year.

$8M for a shortened season is a show me deal? Maybe slight discount.

 

[8999]

Benning has been trying to move the usual crap contracts for months but now he is magically going to wish harder that a team is going to want one of them ?
He never attached any assets to make cap room when his MVP goalie was a UFA but now he might to sign Hoffman ? Whaaaaat.

True but isn't the report only saying that the team would need to clear space, not that they can or are necessarily even trying to?

 

[voxel]

Brutal to be a UFA for some guys.. Hoffman would be a prime candidate in any normal offseason to get an absurdly huge deal

Yeah so many FAs will be screwed this season. Maybe even earn less than half of a normal year.

 

[BB06]

Last year set the price of a 1st round pick buyout with dead cap. $4.6M over two years for a 1st. So a player like Sutter will cost a 1st - although he still can play so maybe the other team sends back a 3rd. Lucic will cost multiple 1sts

Carolina Hurricanes buy out Patrick Marleau five days after trade

Staal who cost more went for a 2nd like 2 weeks ago. No way moving Sutter cost a first

 

[Mr Positive]

Brutal to be a UFA for some guys.. Hoffman would be a prime candidate in any normal offseason to get an absurdly huge deal.

He woulda definately gotten a 7 year deal at a high salary that would most likely be regrettable for that team by about year 5 .. the usual thing that happens haha

maybe the collapsing cap is saving these GMs from themselves though. Hoffman is a prime candidate to get paid but imo a prime candidate to have the next big contract that ages poorly.

 

[BCNate]

$8M for a shortened season is a show me deal? Maybe slight discount.

No, what I'm saying is that Hall knows that more teams will be able to offer more him money and term next year than could this year with the flat cap. I feel Hoffman is in the same spot. "Show me" deal is not the right term for that at all. It's more like "waiting to cash in".

 

[Mike Towers]

Flyers,Bruins or Jets.

 

[voxel]

Staal who cost more went for a 2nd like 2 weeks ago. No way moving Sutter cost a first

Eric Staal who makes $1M less than Sutter, plays twice as many games, and scores 20+ goals minimum? (And 42 goals two years ago) Of course he only cost a second... he’s still useful. Sutter is just a LTIR body.

 

[Mickey Marner]

These "prove it" deals seem a bit short-sighted, the cap isn't going up next year.

 

[frederixx]

It's probably Montreal and they are trying to move Tatar and Byron.

 

[voxel]

These "prove it" deals seem a bit short-sighted, the cap isn't going up next year.

But more teams will have cap space.

 

[BB06]

Eric Staal who makes $1M less than Sutter, plays twice as many games, and scores 20+ goals minimum? (And 42 goals two years ago) Of course he only cost a second... he’s still useful. Sutter is just a LTIR body.

Marc Staal.....

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Benning has been trying to move the usual crap contracts for months but now he is magically going to wish harder that a team is going to want one of them ?
He never attached any assets to make cap room when his MVP goalie was a UFA but now he might to sign Hoffman ? Whaaaaat.

Again,

CAP wasnt the issue with Markstrom.


Van had over 15 million in cap space this summer. They could have signed Markstrom to 8 mil a year if they wanted.

But they didnt want to commit because Markstrom wanted (and got) a No Movement Clause.

giving Markstrom an NMC means bye bye to Thatcher Demko and that was a non starter and rightfully so for the Canucks.

6 years I believe is also something they didnt want to go forward with Markstrom.

Great for Markstrom and his Agent tho, they were able to get a 36 mil contract in a flat cap, during a low economy, for a 30 yr old coming off an injury filled season. Markstrom hit the jackpot

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

It's the Islanders I'm guessing. He just saw them up close and personal in the qualifying round.