Draisaitl @ 8.5/8yrs vrs Matthews @ 11.63/5yrs

Who do you choose?


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Garbageyuk

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Draisaitl all day, every day. He has actually hit 70 points in a season, and doesn't pull a disappearing act in the playoffs. Too bad he's on the Oilers though.
 

XXIV97

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Stop that nonsense, the stats show he plays the vast majority of the time with McDavid as a winger. His stats fall dramatically when that isn’t the case
Did I say he plays the majority of his time with Lucic and Reider? No, I stated that he plays with them.

Stop putting words into my mouth
 

XXIV97

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Hey guys! Did you know playing with Nylander is equal to playing almost 67% of the time with McDavid? Now I'm starting to think Nylander has the best contract in the NHL. Oh and playing 0.47% of your ice time on the PP with Marner is also up there with playing almost 67% of the time with McDavid!

Jeebus! I shudder to think what kind of contract THAT guy gets!!!
Are you saying that Nylander is better than Draisaitl?
 

LeafMaple

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Draisaitl's point production is heavily influenced by Mcdavid. Matthews is by far a way better player AINEC. Matthews anyday, no question in my mind
 
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Tad Mikowsky

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I see you are continuing your tradition of complaining about Leafs fans every chance you get.

Oh there we go, right back to the usual with you.

That’s impressive, going 12 minutes of “we feed the nhl”to “stop picking on us”. That’s quite the turnaround!
 

Deficient Mode

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Don't get these results personally. Matthews is a much better player when healthy and having a more costly/shorter contract means absolutely nothing for an elite player. $3M doesn't come close to making up the difference in results.
 

LeafsNation75

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Oh there we go, right back to the usual with you.

That’s impressive, going 12 minutes of “we feed the nhl”to “stop picking on us”. That’s quite the turnaround!
I didn't even quote you when I replied to @Rants Mulliniks and for some reason you quoted me with your Leafs fan agenda of us playing the victim. So you are the one with a problem of always doing that every chance you get.
 

The Winter Soldier

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Look no one is doubting that right now Draisaitl has more points than Matthews so far this season. However it's a fact that the games Matthews missed is a reason for that. So it does not mean Draisaitl is better than him no matter what their contracts look like.

What exactly are you saying here?

You would rather pay 11.634M per for a player on a current pace of 1.146 PPG on a 94 points pace over 82 games that has missed 34 games in the last 3 years than pay 8.5M per for a player that is currenly on a 1.2 PPG, on a 98,4 points pace over 82 games that has missed only 4 games in the last 3 years.

I'll break it down for you. Step by step. There should be no more excuses of what if arguments. Here are the facts.

Draisaitl 8.5M per.
66 pts, 55 games. 1.2 PPG
32 goals in 55 games. .581 GPG

82 game projection 98.4 points
82 game projection 47.7 goals

Matthews 11.634M per.

47 pts, 41 games. 1.146 PPG.
24 goals 41 games. .585 GPG

82 game projection 94 points
82 game projection 48 goals

So your what if argument of Matthews having more points is a false one, as is your missing games argument.

Draisaitl is producing better in actual numbers, on pace numbers and at 3.134M less than Matthews, has proven to be more durable, and is signed a year longer eating up an additional UFA year.

Well it is up to the poster to decide who is a preferable given the criteria the OP asked.
 
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LeafsNation75

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What exactly are you saying here?

You would rather pay 11.634M per for a player on a current pace of 1.146 PPG on a 94 points pace over 82 games that has missed 34 games in the last 3 years than pay 8.5M per for a player that is currenly on a 1.2 PPG, on a 98,4 points pace over 82 games that has missed only 4 games in the last 3 years.

I'll break it down for you. Step by step. There should be no more excuses of what if arguments. Here are the facts.

Draisaitl 8.5M per.
66 pts, 55 games. 1.2 PPG
32 goals in 55 games. .581 GPG

82 game projection 98.4 points
82 game projection 47.7 goals

Matthews 11.634M per.

47 pts, 41 games. 1.146 PPG.
24 goals 41 games. .585 GPG

82 game projection 94 points
82 game projection 48 goals

So your what if argument of Matthews having more points is a false one, as is your missing games argument.

Draisaitl is producing better in actual numbers, on pace and at 3.134M less than Matthews a season, plus a year longer eating up an additional UFA year.

Well it is up to the poster to decide who is a preferable given the criteria the OP asked.
Why is Matthews new contract even being used here? Technically he is still on his ELC and his new contract won't kick in until next season. So the reality is we have Draisaitl and his 8 year/$8.5 million AAV contract up against Matthews and his ELC of $3,775,000. If anything this question should be asked once Matthews starts making his $11,634,000 AAV next season.
 

The Winter Soldier

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Why is Matthews new contract even being used here? Technically he is still on his ELC and his new contract won't kick in until next season. So the reality is we have Draisaitl and his 8 year/$8.5 million AAV contract up against Matthews and his ELC of $3,775,000. If anything this question should be asked once Matthews starts making his $11,634,000 AAV next season.

Look at the title of the OP. You may want to read the first post of the thread too. And you have not addressed my post with your injury excuse.

Here it is again. Try as you may to avoid the facts.

You would rather pay 11.634M per for a player on a current pace of 1.146 PPG on a 94 points pace over 82 games that has missed 34 games in the last 3 years than pay 8.5M per for a player that is currenly on a 1.2 PPG, on a 98,4 points pace over 82 games that has missed only 4 games in the last 3 years.

I'll break it down for you. Step by step. There should be no more excuses of what if arguments. Here are the facts.

Draisaitl 8.5M per.
66 pts, 55 games. 1.2 PPG
32 goals in 55 games. .581 GPG

82 game projection 98.4 points
82 game projection 47.7 goals

Matthews 11.634M per.

47 pts, 41 games. 1.146 PPG.
24 goals 41 games. .585 GPG

82 game projection 94 points
82 game projection 48 goals


So your what if argument of Matthews having more points is a false one, as is your missing games argument.

Draisaitl is producing better in actual numbers, on pace numbers and at 3.134M less than Matthews, has proven to be more durable, and is signed a year longer eating up an additional UFA year.

Well it is up to the poster to decide who is a preferable given the criteria the OP asked.
 

LeafsNation75

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Look at the title of the OP. You may want to read the first post of the thread too. And you have not addressed my post with your injury excuse.

Here it is again. Try as you may to avoid the facts.

You would rather pay 11.634M per for a player on a current pace of 1.146 PPG on a 94 points pace over 82 games that has missed 34 games in the last 3 years than pay 8.5M per for a player that is currenly on a 1.2 PPG, on a 98,4 points pace over 82 games that has missed only 4 games in the last 3 years.

I'll break it down for you. Step by step. There should be no more excuses of what if arguments. Here are the facts.

Draisaitl 8.5M per.
66 pts, 55 games. 1.2 PPG
32 goals in 55 games. .581 GPG

82 game projection 98.4 points
82 game projection 47.7 goals

Matthews 11.634M per.

47 pts, 41 games. 1.146 PPG.
24 goals 41 games. .585 GPG

82 game projection 94 points
82 game projection 48 goals


So your what if argument of Matthews having more points is a false one, as is your missing games argument.

Draisaitl is producing better in actual numbers, on pace numbers and at 3.134M less than Matthews, has proven to be more durable, and is signed a year longer eating up an additional UFA year.

Well it is up to the poster to decide who is a preferable given the criteria the OP asked.
I saw the title. However you were the one who mentioned their stats so far this season and used their contracts to make Draisaitl look even better. So either way I'm still correct that this season Matthews is on his ELC deal and not his new contract until the start of next season.
 

The Winter Soldier

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I saw the title. However you were the one who mentioned their stats so far this season and used their contracts to make Draisaitl look even better. So either way I'm still correct that this season Matthews is on his ELC deal and not his new contract until the start of next season.

The OP does not mention ELC's. You are trying to change the OP. Not so fast. The primary question is who do you prefer Draisaitl at 8.5M or Matthews at 11.634M? Look at the title. So again. Are you going to dodge all night?

I'll break it down for you. Step by step. There should be no more excuses of what if arguments. Here are the facts.

Draisaitl 8.5M per.
66 pts, 55 games. 1.2 PPG
32 goals in 55 games. .581 GPG

82 game projection 98.4 points
82 game projection 47.7 goals
Missed games last 3 seasons. 4

Matthews 11.634M per.
47 pts, 41 games. 1.146 PPG.
24 goals 41 games. .585 GPG
Missed games last 3 seasons 34

82 game projection 94 points
82 game projection 48 goals


So your what if argument of Matthews having more points is a false one, as is your missing games argument.

Draisaitl is producing better in actual numbers, on pace numbers and at 3.134M less than Matthews, has proven to be more durable, and is signed a year longer that eats up an additional UFA year.
 
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Rants Mulliniks

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Oh good, we went from victim complexes to messiah complexes.

Well you have to love a place that has a thread complaining about what they pay their star player and how it affects them all the while having their hand out so you'll float their existence, no?

If you don't like it, sue me. Fortunately for you, you won't have to pay the lawyer because you can use my money to sue me.
 
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