Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by fazon, Mar 15, 2011.
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Poor man's Bobby Orr for a comparison to Murphy? 8.5D is too high of a rating too. Yes his numbers in junior are spectacular, but I can't see that guy being anywhere near the great Bobby Orr, poor or not.
Other than that, great list, nice comparisons.
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I know Murphy is no Bobby Orr, hence the "poor man's" part. I think 8.5 D is a fair rating, at least the "D" part is. But now that I look at it, Ryan Ellis is very comparable to Murphy and has a 7.5 C so I'll think about changing that for the next release.
Well, I think 8.5D is fair grade. Ellis has similar skillset to Murphy but is and projects to be way smaller than Murphy (who is two years younger and bigger now not even mentioning that he can still grow a little bit).
Valid points. Ellis has more upside and the ability to add size.
If anything, the D is staying though.
Contrary to popular belief, Ellis and Murphy aren't comparable at all.
Completely differnt offensive defensmen and Ellis's weakest area (Skating) is Murphys biggest boon. A comparison that gets thrown around a lot but is one of the weakest. Not sayig Murphy is as good but really the closest comparison is Coffey or Green.
I can see what you mean and I guess you're right there but I would not compare Murphy to (Mike?) Green at all. Green is big and physical. I would agree with a Coffey comparison though.
sean courtier is only a 7.5 B has his stock really drop off that much
A 7.5 B isn't that bad. It's basically a guaranteed NHL fringe 2nd liner with the potential to become a first liner.
I could change to a 8.0 C but I feel that he's more of a safe/"guaranteed" pick than a risk/reward pick.
I have never seen Murphy play, he seems like a very boom or bust pick, would a good comparison to him be Brian Rafalski? From what I read about Murphy he is a good skater, very good offensive potential, and he has similar size as Rafalski.
Yeah, sounds about right. Rafalski is more of a physical guy whereas Murphy is more finesse, but I like that comparison though.
Basically what I've expected and nothing new. Pretty safe ranking. I'd rank Strome over Murphy, easily.
I do not agree with the grading in the top four however. I would do it something like this:
So I would take 0.5 from Landeskog and add it to Couturier. I think Couturier is gonna be just as productive as Landeskog, or better.
Similar to Rafalski yes, but if Murphy turns out he should have a higher peak than Rafalski. A bit taller than Rafalski.
Playing style wise in the NHL right now, the closest offensive comparison is Green. Not body size or physicallity, even though Murphy can be physical when he wants to (Best hip check in the OHL).
i could see your reasoning for giving him a 7.5 B, although, i would have probably given him 8.0 B
I actually think Ellis is more like Rafalski.
Murphy reminds me more of someone like Phil Housley or Dan Boyle. Murph tends to play more of a rover style.
Dan Boyle is probably the best comparison i've heard yet. Good call on that one - also I do really hate how Ellis and Murphy get compared so much. If Ellis had Murphy's skating he would probably be considered the second coming. Another comparison for Murphy would be Erik Karlsson.
Murphy honestly reminds me of a highly skilled version of Kyle Cumiskey.
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