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Indeed...GregStack said:I say do the lottery on draft day too, just to keep all the teams guessing right up to the draft.
Indeed...GregStack said:I say do the lottery on draft day too, just to keep all the teams guessing right up to the draft.
PeterSidorkiewicz said:I was just curious what you meant by Americans love to think they love the midwest? Didn't get that. Also, I think it depends WHERE in America you live to know if you care about Canada or what comes out of it. If you live in New Mexico and Nevada, probably not, but I assure you people who live in Detroit and Buffalo and other northern cities close to Canada do know a lot about the country. Because to them Canada is less foreign than a place like Texas because they're so close and frequent there more often.
Jaded-Fan said:If you asked the average American who OUR Vice President was somewhere well over half would not know.
FLYLine4LIFE said:Such a horrible idea. Bad teams get good draft picks, its as simple as that, that is how the bad teams get better in the future. Because of the lockout that contempt just gets thrown out the door? If this was any other non-Crosby year this wouldn't even be an issue. The league really is a joke.
kdb209 said:But I think the poster's original point holds. No, most Americans do not know about / care about Canada. The Detroits and Buffalos are the exception, not the rule. You ask most people in New York, Boston, Chicago, LA, etc, and you'll get "Oh, yeah, Canada, that's up north somewhere isn't it".
Jaded-Fan said:If you asked the average American who OUR Vice President was somewhere well over half would not know.
So don't feel too bad that many of us do not realize that PePe Le Peu has been your Premier for years . . . or was it that the guy who does that Doonesbury cartoon? Damn, never mind . . . .
Epsilon said:I doubt that, I think most Americans have heard of Darth Vader...
So do I, in England they televise the cup drawings and its great not knowing who youre going to get.EroCaps said:It could be wild though. I hope they televise any drawing.
Munchausen said:The draft was at first a mean to create a cycle in hockey and help the teams in difficulty, so they can "re-do" themselves through the draft. If you take away this only purpose just because Crosby is making everybody lose their marbles, might as well call it a night on the entry draft system altogether and declare 18yo free agents up for grab to anyone.
No matter the stupid excuse you come up with, there is not one single legit reason for this draft not to be at least weighted in the bottom teams' favor. But unity is likely already over among owners. Sharks will be sharks, and every owner will want Crosby on their team to kick start the new era, no matter what logic says about it, so be sure an equal chance lottery is a likely scenario April 20th.
Steve L said:So do I, in England they televise the cup drawings and its great not knowing who youre going to get.
The NHL needs to have the teams in the bowl and pick #30 down until they have 2 balls ready for the #1 pick. Imagine the tension of the teams and fans involved when you get down to the last few balls!
Vlad The Impaler said:Hate to break it to you, but logic dictates this should be an equal chance lottery for all 30 NHL teams.
And this isn't someone with any particular interest for any NHL team, or someone who is particularly buying in the Crosby hype talking.
They do it for all cups, its great to see youre going to get, hopefully millions of NHL fans will get the same anticipation and tension for the #1 pick.EroCaps said:I like that idea a lot.
Do they only do that for the FA Cup? I remember watching an FA Cup drawing on a soccer channel a month or so back and it was intense.
PecaFan said:Which is why I keep referring to "spirit of the draft". The whole point of the draft is to improve the teams which have had the least on ice success in the past.
kdb209 said:My guess that the American's love the Midwest comment comes from Baseball.
kdb209 said:If Crosby gets drafted by a Canadian team and lives up to the hype, the general reaction in the States will be yawn. Look - how many people here knew who Gretzky was before he got traded to the Kings.
Vlad The Impaler said:Hate to break it to you, but logic dictates this should be an equal chance lottery for all 30 NHL teams.
And this isn't someone with any particular interest for any NHL team, or someone who is particularly buying in the Crosby hype talking.
So what's the problem?wazee said:It is not any different. That is the point. Either way, a team at the bottom is going to get rewarded by a high draft pick twice.
Munchausen said:Thanks for breaking it to me Vlad, but do you have arguments to go with that thought? Cause all I can answer to this is "no it doesn't". To which you might want to answer "yes it does". We ain't going far at that pace.
I'm still waiting to hear a valid explanation as to why this should be an equal chance lottery. I've seen none so far in this thread other than "please god let the team I cheer for have a crack at the phenom kid".
JohnnyReb said:I disagree slightly. The "spirit of the draft" is to promote parity. Teams who have done badly in the past, get a chance to draft and acquire better players. In theory, over time, this will make them better, and the teams that are drafting lower, poorer.
The problem with this year, is that nobody knows just who would have done well last year, and who wouldn't have. Its easy to say "Toronto, Detroit, Colorado etc would still be great" but that's ignoring the economic system the NHL is trying to put in place. They say they need a salary cap (with the twin floor) to reduce the disparity between the haves and have nots, which will increase parity and on-ice competitiveness. If that system had of been in place, then there is absolutely no way of knowing whether or not Colorado, Toronto, Detroit, etc would have been good. In fact, one could argue that they wouldn't be, because their strongest asset - money - would have been taken away from them. These teams would have had to cut upwards of $30 million from their payrolls, while teams like Atlanta, and Pittsburgh and Columbus, would have been adding $10-20 million.
Take $25 million in payroll off of Colorado, and add it to Atlanta and Columbus, and tell me which teams would have been better.
Everybody would have been equal, and if the NHL owners get their way, everybody will be equal whenever hockey starts back up. That's the point of the lockout, no?
A weighted lottery would be like saying to a team like Toronto, or Detroit "you have to cut away 5-7 of your best players, so that every other team can be as good as you, and you're going to get the worst picks in the draft." This would actually DEFEAT the "spirit of the draft."
I believe that someone must have mentioned that there is no season to base draft rankings on.PecaFan said:So, how about somebody actually dish out this so called logical argument for a "30 team with identical chances" draft?
Because we sure as hell haven't seen one yet on this board.