Frk It
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Those would be your opinions, I am not required to share them when watching a prospect. End of the day I don't think he is a center nor do I think he can convert. Him not being a center certainly does impact that. I don't feel he is a Kane or Ovechkin caliber player where you would take him as winger at #1 overall either. Especially over a special talent that could play center or even if he converts is a Kane or Ovechkin caliber winger. He isn't in the RNH draft, he is in one with two centers that drive play, one already plays a very complete two way game.
His season and bottom line production is what moved him into my top 5. His trouble transporting the puck and gaining entry is what used to have him outside, but he is a dominant player below the faceoff circles. Like I have said numerous times my issue with Kakko isn't that he won't be a good player. It is that he reminds me a heck of a lot more of Sam Reinhart, Dany Heatley and Rick Nash in terms of wingers. While they were wonderful players and indeed have some dominant seasons they were never players that overly troubled me as opposition. Let them get their goal and beat their team 4-1 or 4-2, you can keep them on the outside of proceedings in the NHL game without impacting you massively. He might be Rantanen, time will tell, I am not as sold on him.
I think Byram is going to bring a ton of offense. I question just how good he will be defensively. He does remind me a lot of Morgan Rielly. I doubt he is there at #6, but to be clear just because guys don't slot in where the industry has them doesn't mean I hate them. I think the two players I actually expected the most heat for were Zegras and Brink. I mean the one guy that really plummeted on my list is I don't think Bobby Brink is more than a superstar AHL player. So in his case he isn't a top 50 player for me as I find him to be kind of a longshot even with all of his skills to make the league. I could see him getting in 100 plus games but he makes me think of Reid Boucher a lot, in fact I like Boucher a little more than I did/do Brink. Guys I am higher on potential wise pass him as a result. Zegras I see as a pure winger and I think so much of what he attempts just isn't going to fly at the NHL level especially with a coach. @Frk It the other day was talking Drouin and that makes a lot of sense as a comparable. I am not sure he has that level of hands in terms of moves around guys and he plays at a slower pace in the junior ranks which gives me more trouble, but when Drouin isn't in one of his hot stretches and shooting the puck enough he goes through pro-longed slumps where he tries low percentage plays and doesn't impact his team for positive stretches.
But we are all going to see things differently, I would love to see your list as a comparison. I have my reasons they might ultimately be wrong but I feel what I feel on a lot of these guys. I stopped caring on the consensus on this a long time ago really. As I have said before you talk to the guys that do this for a living and their draft lists would bend your mind when you look at them versus consensus.
Look, Brink is the ultimate boom/bust guy this year, I’ve told you I think he might slide out of round 1 entirely.
But everything you are saying about Brink was said about Johnny Gaudreau. Brink drove his line in the USHL all year. Everyone says Caufield = DeBrincat, well Brink reminds me of Johnny Hockey and I’ll take him over DeBrincat any day. The risk is there. He’s physically immature and not a great skater for an undersized guy. But the kid eats, breathes, and sleeps hockey. I mean his name is Bobby Orr Brink.
If he gets stronger/quicker he’s going to be better than most of the players in this draft. Just a matter of will he or won’t he.