Draft and UDFA Thread 2017-18

[NYR Viper]

According to Bob McKenzie, multiple scouts have Zadina falling out of the top 5.

Man, wouldn't it be something if he fell to #9.

If Kotkaniemi and Hayton go in the top-8, along with Tkachuk, Dahlin and Svechnikov, that leaves 3 teams to possibly pick Zadina, Boqvist, Hughes, Dobson, Bouchard. If Kravtsov goes top-8 then the chances go up again.

 

[bl02]

Only players ranked within reach at some places.

9: Hayton, Lundeström, Kupari (i'm not worried, we're not taking a C)

26/28: Groulx (lacks upside), Ginning (pylon)

Yeah if had any of those guys picked at 26/28 i would not be happy for sure. Maybe Grouix with the 48th pick. Just so many more guys with higher upside available

 

[Riche16]

Farabee is a nice prospect, Lias, Chytil, Howden, Hajek are also nice prospects.

However should they make the NHL and develop well, that group winning future playoff series against Ehlers, Connor, Laine, or Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Rielly, I am not sure about that.

Sadly true.

I don't know how we get anything but "nice" though. Unless we bottom out completely next year or Gorts does something insane at the draft.

 

[LeetchisGod]

According to Bob McKenzie, multiple scouts have Zadina falling out of the top 5.

A potential Chytil-Zadina pairing is mouthwatering.

 

[True Blue]

That looks like a good 1st round to me

Agreed. Not the names I would have picked, but cannot complain. Correction. I stand on record as Thomas being a good get with one of the latter 1st round picks.

 

[NYR Viper]

Sadly true.

I don't know how we get anything but "nice" though. Unless we bottom out completely next year or Gorts does something insane at the draft.

Every year there are very good players selected outside the top-3.

 

[RangerBoy]

McKenzie feels Dobson is the 2nd D available behind Dahlin

 

[Mugless]

I keep getting this feeling that Drury's comment about a player they really like being available at #9 was a reference to Kravtsov, not Farabee. My premonitions usually only come true in baseball, so we'll see what happens.

 

[Drew4u]

Sadly true.

I don't know how we get anything but "nice" though. Unless we bottom out completely next year or Gorts does something insane at the draft.

You do realize that you don't need to draft in the top 5 to get elite players. You just need good drafting which the rangers clearly do not have.

 

[Lion Hound]

Really surprised there is so much talk about Hayton recently. I just don't see a top 10 pick here.

 

[RangerBoy]

Boqvist is the 4th rated D behind Dobson and Bouchard/Hughes

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Boqvist is the 4th rated D behind Dobson and Bouchard/Hughes

He just may fall all the way to 9... Or beyond.

I can totally see the Rangers passing on him.

And Hughes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bouchard

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

You do realize that you don't need to draft in the top 5 to get elite players. You just need good drafting which the rangers clearly do not have.

Is it that clear?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Really surprised there is so much talk about Hayton recently. I just don't see a top 10 pick here.

I’m all for it as long as it’s not the rangers taking him

 

[Drew4u]

Is it that clear?

Just look at the roster....

 

[Edge]

According to Bob McKenzie, multiple scouts have Zadina falling out of the top 5.

That's funny we were just talking about that earlier in this thread --- Zadina slipping.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Really surprised there is so much talk about Hayton recently. I just don't see a top 10 pick here.

Teams get desperate. The 3rd pick is going to tell us everything we need to know about this draft. If Montreal goes full on asshattery and drafts Kotkaniemi, we are in for a wild ride. If they draft Zadina as many expected (not more than two weeks ago), then I think the top 10 will go relatively close to as expected.

 

[Drew4u]

Since 2009 the team has drafted one top six forward in Kreider. And one top four defencemen in Skjei who i'm still unsure about. How is that acceptable, thats terrible drafting.

 

[Edge]

Man, wouldn't it be something if he fell to #9.

If Kotkaniemi and Hayton go in the top-8, along with Tkachuk, Dahlin and Svechnikov, that leaves 3 teams to possibly pick Zadina, Boqvist, Hughes, Dobson, Bouchard. If Kravtsov goes top-8 then the chances go up again.

You're also forgetting Wahlstrom being in that mix.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Since 2009 the team has drafted one top six forward in Kreider. And one top four defencemen in Skjei who i'm still unsure about. How is that acceptable, thats terrible drafting.

Miller?

Then there is also Buchnevich and Duclair.

But this is what happens when you trade all of your draft picks. I'm not saying that I would have done it any differently, but I don't know what you were expecting.

 

[Edge]

Since 2009 the team has drafted one top six forward in Kreider. And one top four defencemen in Skjei who i'm still unsure about. How is that acceptable, thats terrible drafting.

JT Miller, for all his flaws, has played as a top six forward in this league.

You're also forgetting that this team didn't have a first, and in some cases other picks, between 2013 and 2016.

And it's way too early to talk about 2017.

That changes the context quite a bit.

 

[Drew4u]

Miller?

Then there is also Buchnevich and Duclair.

But this is what happens when you trade all of your draft picks. I'm not saying that I would have done it any differently, but I don't know what you were expecting.

Duclair is barely an NHLer, Miller and Buchnevich havent proven to be consistent top six forwards

 

[bl02]

A potential Chytil-Zadina pairing is mouthwatering.

Add Kaut at 28 and Lauko at 39/48...Ok I will stop dreaming now.

 

[Riche16]

You do realize that you don't need to draft in the top 5 to get elite players. You just need good drafting which the rangers clearly do not have.

Yeah, you could pick Hank in the 7th rd...

So what? That's not a frequent occurrence and then you go on to say that the NYR don't draft well... so my point stands.

Of course there are good/nice/sometimes even great players not in the top-3 or 5... but the odds are heavily there as opposed to anywhere else.

 

[bl02]

Since 2009 the team has drafted one top six forward in Kreider. And one top four defencemen in Skjei who i'm still unsure about. How is that acceptable, thats terrible drafting.

We need to turn that trend around and part of that is JG over Sather and also not trading first round picks like they were candy.