GDT: Dovals @ Icelanders; The MSGs

[Bleedred]

Again....Historically, we've done pretty well against Philly and actually...you know...WON GAMES against them unlike the Isles where it doesn't matter whether they suck or don't suck, we still lose to them.

I think the Devils get back to their winning ways after the break.

We've had a terrible record over the Islanders for at least 18 years or so. It might even be into the 90's, but at least they were a playoff team sometimes in the 90's. We had a lot of embarrassing losses to them back when we were a perennial playoff team and they were a perennial loser team.

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

Don’t look up the Devils record vs. them on the road. All time, it’s horrific. The Devils had good success against them on home ice for a nice stretch but they’ve always struggled in Nassau and now in Brooklyn. I think there is maybe a handful of seasons where they did well.

 

[Emperoreddy]

So what is it? 4 good goals taken away in 5 games? On top of an illegal goal getting scored on us?

 

[MadDevil]

So what is it? 4 good goals taken away in 5 games? On top of an illegal goal getting scored on us?

Don't remind me. It's just something else to stew over until Saturday.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Don't remind me. It's just something else to stew over until Saturday.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this. I can’t blame the guys for getting thrown off your game.

How many times can you get screwed like that before it starts to really effect you?

 

[Bleedred]

Don’t look up the Devils record vs. them on the road. All time, it’s horrific. The Devils had good success against them on home ice for a nice stretch but they’ve always struggled in Nassau and now in Brooklyn. I think there is maybe a handful of seasons where they did well.

I've actually seen quite a few Devils wins over the Islanders back at the dump. I feel pretty fortunate in doing so.

But I've also seen my fair share of clunkers there too, like a couple blowout losses in the late 90's. I think one of them was the ''They ate too much'' comment from Lemaire.

I was also at the pathetic game where the Islanders ended their 14 game losing streak against us, when MacLean was the coach. Back on Black Friday (or maybe it was Saturday?) of 2010. There was also the MLK blowout loss in 2010, where we were shutout by Rick DiPietro. We were shutout by DiPietro in the November 2010 game also. Those were his last two career shutouts.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Honestly I think this break comes at the perfect time.

Be real easy for all the frustration between dumb mistakes and constantly getting hosed by the refs to really snowball out of control.

Guys stepping away for a week to mentally reset should do them wonders. Just move on and put this waived off goal nonsense behind them.

 

[billingtons ghost]

You have Hall having a career year in goals and really not expecting any significant drop from our rookies.

Most rookies hit a wall at 60 games.

I'm not dismissing the possibility, I just think it's ambitious.

Ambitious? Hell - I think I'm being borderline ludicrous - I was posting best case scenario - I had Gibbons dropping by 7 goals off the pace and Bratt, Wood also falling off by about half.

I find it more likely, however, that the rookies keep it going... than the goal allocations I gave to Mojo, Zajac and Stafford - who thus far don't give any real indications of living up to their preseason hype... and while injuries certainly played a role - I can see Palmieri picking up the pace, but I don't see Mojo or Stafford living up to projections....

 

[Bleedred]

I'm still giggling at the fake canned goalie chants that the Islanders have been doing for years.

Those (mostly) fake ''JA-RO! JA-RO! JA-RO! JA-RO!'' chants during the shootout, at least provided for a few laughs and giggles during an otherwise pathetic 5 rounds of misery.

 

[holyprime]

What are the chances that there's two players named Sebastian Aho in the same league, who are both roughly the same age?

Weirder than the two Petr Sykora's.

There is a pretty fun read on the international board from when they both were prospects:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/the-incredibly-improbable-sebastian-ahos.1804289/

Now back to lurking until Hischier pots a hattrick

 

[Burner Account]

The overturned goal stings, especially since it's trending right now.

But we had this game won until Hall took the retaliatory penalty and let the Isles back in the game. That is part of knowing how to close games out.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

What are the chances that there's two players named Sebastian Aho in the same league, who are both roughly the same age?

Weirder than the two Petr Sykora's.

I think I read something on Twitter last week that they both have brothers with the same name...not sure if that is true though

The interesting part is that the Carolina one is Finnish whereas the Islanders one is Swedish.

 

[JimEIV]

The overturned goal stings, especially since it's trending right now.

But we had this game won until Hall took the retaliatory penalty and let the Isles back in the game. That is part of knowing how to close games out.

Don't disagree one bit but it's really hard to criticize Hall for anything over the last few games.

 

[Burner Account]

Don't disagree one bit but it's really hard to criticize Hall for anything over the last few games.

I also agree with that. I think one thing that gets overlooked is that despite his age and his stature on this team, Hall is still learning how to win and how to make the playoffs.

 

[New Jersey]

barclays center is dirt cheap to watch hockey in and i'm insane so f*** it i'll subject myself to this again on the 16th

anyway as for hall's penalty i have a feeling he learned a valuable lesson.

 

[devsfan4life]

Has there been any video posted of the "no goal"? I missed the first period, haven't seen it yet. Sounds like we got completely ripped off yet again

 

[HoliksGhost]

Where was Bratt on the OT PP?

Seriously, WTF was up with that ?

I hated that 4-3 in OT.

 

[New Jersey]

Has there been any video posted of the "no goal"? I missed the first period, haven't seen it yet. Sounds like we got completely ripped off yet again

sebastian aho kinda guided palmieri into the left of the crease and halak didn't seem to make an effort to prevent his paddle from getting tangled up in palmieri's legs but *shrug*

anyway i hope this bye week does some good for the squad because, speaking for myself, it's f***ing torture. like wtf i guess i can watch the nets and seton hall this week.

edit: oh f***, speaking of seton hall, our ice is going to be garbage on saturday. they tip-off seven hours before puck drop against philly.

 

[devsfan4life]

Seriously, WTF was up with that ?

I hated that 4-3 in OT.

That was terrible. Awful to watch. That's on the coaches for the way they drew it up. Hall in front of the net?? Palmieri and Johansson set up for one timers... and butcher up top. They just stood still passing the puck around.

I would've had Wood in front and some combination of Bratt/Hall/Hischier on he wings and Butcher or even Vatanen up top just to get a heavy right handed shot in there.

 

[njdevil26]

Aho also interfered with Halak.

 

[New Jersey]

Aho also interfered with Halak.

as soon as i saw the contact on the scoreboard i thought to myself "ya what f***ing difference does it make to the officials when there happens to also be a white jersey there?"

surely enough, no goal.

i really hope this team responds well next saturday. we're 3-4-1 against metro division teams so far. not good enough.

 

[Camille the Eel]

The overturned goal stings, especially since it's trending right now.

But we had this game won until Hall took the retaliatory penalty and let the Isles back in the game. That is part of knowing how to close games out.

The NHL needs to fix its replay, it's ludicrous how often they get it wrong. Review all calls in Toronto, don't expect refs ever to reverse themselves once they've made a call, and review all goals and no goals; don't leave it up to a challenge.

That said, we played well enough to win nearly all of these last four games. Two losses in OT or shootout. No need to panic. We are playing superb hockey; we are the better team most of these games. Amazing to say when you consider where we were last year at this time. Amazing grace. Our club is actually loaded. I'm thankful for it this New Year.

 

[BenedictGomez]

sebastian aho kinda guided palmieri into the left of the crease and halak didn't seem to make an effort to prevent his paddle from getting tangled up in palmieri's legs but *shrug*

Even if he didn't, skaters should 100% be entitled to move through and go for a puck on white ice, and the part of Halak's body that was "interfered" with was clearly out of goal.

So lets take yesterday's disallowed goal logic to its' extreme application:

If a 6'5" goalie dives out of the crease to cover a puck and fails, but his skates remain in the blue, is the ensuing goal waved off because a skater makes contact with a part of the goalie's body that was 5 feet out of the blue? Apparently so.

 

[New Jersey]

Even if he didn't, skaters should 100% be entitled to move through and go for a puck on white ice, and the part of Halak's body that was "interfered" with was clearly out of goal.

So lets take yesterday's disallowed goal logic to its' extreme application:

If a 6'5" goalie dives out of the crease to cover a puck and fails, but his skates remain in the blue, is the ensuing goal waved off because a skater makes contact with a part of the goalie's body that was 5 feet out of the blue? Apparently so.

i have nothing else on this because it'll be construed as having a persecution complex and complaining about nothing more than 'bad breaks'

anyway, like i said, this team basically could have gone 3-1-1 instead of 0-2-3 in these last five, and i find it a wild coincidence that if the officials let all of our disallowed goals stand and all other variables remain constant (which no one probably would have batted an eye about) we're up a point on the caps with a game in hand before five days off.

*puts on tinfoil pirate hat*

 

[New Jersey]

The NHL needs to fix its replay, it's ludicrous how often they get it wrong. Review all calls in Toronto, don't expect refs ever to reverse themselves once they've made a call, and review all goals and no goals; don't leave it up to a challenge.

That said, we played well enough to win nearly all of these last four games. Two losses in OT or shootout. No need to panic. We are playing superb hockey; we are the better team most of these games. Amazing to say when you consider where we were last year at this time. Amazing grace. Our club is actually loaded. I'm thankful for it this New Year.

the beautiful bitch about toronto is that the on-ice officials can call up the war room for "advice" even though the decision is ultimately theirs.

it's so f***ing stupid.