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Doughty Hit on Carrier (UPD: Suspended One Game)
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Carrier survived? Wow. It's almost like he sold it. Lol practicing already. What a bunch of tools.
Pathetic team, and a pathetic league.
Pathetic team, and a pathetic league.
IceNeophyte
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Actually, according to the explanation video, they do agree.
Does anyone else watch these videos, and have no idea what the final result is going to be? I don't mean just this time, I mean over the last several years.
They go through the explanation, but whether or not there is going to be a suspension is always questionable, because there has been zero consistence in the final decision, even with almost identical explanations.
SFKingshomer
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That doesn't mean it was the right call. Keep your head up and you won't get leveled...it's been happening for years. Curious to hear what Scott Stevens has to say about the hit considering he made a living catching players with their head down. Hopefully Carrier learns not to skate through the middle of the ice with his head at shoulder height. Him and Gallant are great actors though...
ZeroPucksGiven
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Yea I'm not sure that's the side of the fence I'd want to be standing on [MOD]
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izzy
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Yeah because the league is the same and isnt putting focus on reducing head injuries
lol
SFKingshomer
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Teach players to keep their heads up then? We wouldn't be having this conversation if Carrier wouldn't have been hunched over with his head down like a moron.
izzy
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teach doughty to hit low and not high
wait thats what is happening, hes suspended. see??
SFKingshomer
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He hit shoulder to shoulder just so happens Carrier had his head down because he can't handle the puck with it up. Nice sell job though
I think the methodology he used to lay a hit was needless when he had less destructive alternatives. He could've thrown a hip check coming in from that angle, though I'll admit I don't know how capable Doughty is at throwing those. But more specifically rather than trying to lift Carrier shoulder first, which carries that risk of head contact if it misses, he could've sent the impact through Carrier's core, as in arm first, through the midsection. Doughty wanted to make sure he knocked Carrier to the ice with that hit hence his hit selection. But he chose the riskier hit. He didn't HAVE to hit like that and if he did he should've made damn sure he caught all of Carrier's shoulder.
I've said a bunch of times I don't think Doughty intended to seriously harm Carrier. As opposed to a hit like Kadri where it looked pretty malicious. And while I agree that intent should matter, I think curbing recklessness and lack of caution is important too.
This standard should've started earlier, and no it's not indicative of a desire on my part to remove hitting from the game. I thought last night was great with its physicality by both sides with the exception of the Doughty hit. But a standard that a player needs to exercise appropriate caution should have been in place before this. Part of me is irritated that it HAD to come to this and cripple the Kings at a point where they're already pretty crippled, but I think making an example of someone isn't a horrible thing. I just hope they follow suit with Kadri.
Oof.
SFKingshomer
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I thought Carrier's hit on Doughty below the goal line had potential to be even more dangerous but Doughty absorbed it. It could have been an ugly boarding major...
IceNeophyte
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So the hit itself wasn't needless, but the trajectory/timing, I can stand with that, that's what I've been saying all long.
I thought Tuch's hit on doughty was much worse in the neutral zone, it was in that gray area where you know you shouldn't, but you really really want to....
All huge hits have intent. You think a player like Reaves/Brown/Wilson ect are thinking, hmm lets make sure i hit this guy and it does not hurt. Than why throw a hit?
+ Collin Miller had a high hit on Pearson... but we are not going to complain. Its hockey.
DarkReign
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Doughty had no intent to head-hunt, but that goes without saying. Almost every penalty called, the offending player did not want to trip/interfere/hook. But they did and they get called.
Same thing here. Doughty didnt want to hit him in the chin, but he did. he barely brushed his shoulder/jersey first and then went clean through his jaw. Rule is rules.
Same thing here. Doughty didnt want to hit him in the chin, but he did. he barely brushed his shoulder/jersey first and then went clean through his jaw. Rule is rules.
I get that, but not if a players suddenly changes his position and gets hit in the head in the process. If you penalize the player for that, that will get out across the league where guys are going to suddenly change angles to get players suspended. Its one thing when a player holds his position ( like Wingles) and gets hit in the head, but to me the suspension should not hold if the player getting hit changes his position to avoid the hit.
hockeykicker
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I agree with this and his BS comment. League is unbelievably soft now. It's the playoffs and any sort of hit is worthy of a suspension now. He hit him in the shoulder and caught a bit of his head that was a complete accident.
SFKingshomer
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